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    Old school cycles from PSL for bad ass results





    Guys now use way too many steroids, they just have it all wrong. 90% of them could achieve what they're going for with less than half of the doses they're using.

    The biggest issue people have is dieting. They have never dieted hard enough to see what they're using is doing for them. Once diet is keyed in, then you will see the changes.

    The next issue is their choice of what anabolics to use. Guys seem to think that 500mg/week of testosterone is a beginner dose. They pop so many oral steroids that they could never shed the layer of fat/water to see the muscles if their life depended on it.

    They become their own worst enemies. In their quest for a good physique they essentially destroy it.

    I figured it out about 5-6 years ago, and since switching to this way of cycling gear I haven't looked back. For starters, you only get one set of organs, so taking care of them is top priority.

    Did you know that a healthy liver burns fat at a much faster rate? Have you ever seen a competitor who looked great for a few years and then all of a sudden looked like shit? They are punishing their bodies to the point they actually regress, and nobody wants that.

    If you're going to use orals then my advice is to keep it brief and limit using them to once a year.

    I'm not a fan of dbol or anadrol, they make me feel awful and take away my appetite, and the water retention is terrible.

    Anavar on the other hand is mild, and can be used for periods of 8-12 weeks with very little effect on the liver.

    (Click here to see what legal compound anavar compares to.)

    My compounds of choice are limited to:

    Anavar
    Testosterone
    Deca
    NPP
    EQ
    Masteron
    Primobolan
    Proviron
    Winny (ONLY if going into competition)
    No trenbolone, halo, testosterone suspension, anadrol, dianabol, or sustanon (it's not a steady release and too much water retention) Ė amongst numerous other harsher compounds that I don't use.

    Now, the biggest thing you need to realize when cycling this way is your hard work and diet plays the biggest role. We aren't looking to throw on 20-30 lbs in 8 weeks here.

    We are looking for smooth and steady results while not feeling like total shit. This is more of a recomposition plan than a sonic boom of garbage weight added on.

    How Much Testosterone?

    Keeping testosterone dosages on the low side is key for developing a rock hard physique with nice lines and aesthetics.

    I keep my test low, just enough to stay anabolic in nature. It's not high enough to cause excessive water retention, acne, or the ups and downs most go through when running higher doses.

    200mg/week of testosterone works fine for me. I have not been over 200mg/week in probably 2 years now, and I see no loss of size or definition.

    Since I keep my testosterone doses lower, there are only certain compounds I will run higher.

    I would never run trenbolone at 500mg/week and testosterone at 200mg/week (not that I use it any more anyways).

    Something like deca or equipoise can be run higher, but not too significantly. I see nothing wrong with 300mg/week deca alongside 200mg/week test.

    Other compounds such as primobolan or masteron can be taken up to 500mg+/week with virtually no unwanted sides while keeping test lower.

    Here is My List of Old School Cycles for Badass Results:
    ANAVAR, DECA, TEST

    Weeks 1-10; 50-100mg/day anavar, 200mg/week test e, 200mg/week deca

    MASTERON, TEST, PROVIRON

    Weeks 1-8; 500mg/week masteron, 200mg/week test, 50mg/day proviron

    PRIMO, TEST

    Weeks 1-12; 500-700mg/week primobolan, 200mg/week test

    SOLO PRIMO RUN

    Weeks 1-12; 1000mg/week primo

    CRUISE/CUT RUN WITH ANAVAR, PROVIRON, ECA STACK, TEST

    Weeks 1-8; 30mg/day anavar, 50mg/day proviron, 100mg/week test, ECA stack everyday (ephedrine, caffeine, aspirin)

    THE EQ KICKER

    Weeks 1-2; 800mg/week EQ frontloaded, 200mg/week test

    Weeks 3-12; 400mg/week eq, 200mg/week test

    WINNY/DECA/TEST (poor mans old school contest cycle)

    Weeks 1-4; 200mg/week test, 300mg/week deca

    Weeks 5-12; 50mg/day winstrol, 200mg/week test, 300mg/week deca (drop deca at 10 week mark, 2 weeks out from competition, add in anti-estrogen at 8 weeks into cycle)

    PRIMO/ANAVAR/DECA/TEST/EXEMASTAINE CONTEST CYCLE

    Weeks 1-12; 700mg/week primo, 50-100mg/day anavar, 200mg/week deca, 200mg/week test (drop deca 2 weeks out from show, use arimistane/Red-PCT daily).

    That is pretty much how I do things folks. I run those compounds exclusively and see no reason to add in all the other quick-bang bullshit.

    How Often Should You Run Steroid Cycles & Stay Healthy?

    I have gone back to a traditional way of cycling, 2 cycles/year outside of my normal hormone replacement regimen.

    Health is #1 here. Everyone should get bloodwork done to make sure your are healthy before you start any steroid cycle (and you've finished the cycle).

    I donate blood as often as I can to keep hematocrit/RBC in check.

    Occasionally I run some HCG to keep my nuts right. I run arimistane/Red-PCT 2-3 times a week to keep estrogen under control.

    I consistently monitor my blood pressure and heart rate. I am usually doing some type of cardio 2-3 times/week at any given time during the year.

    Health is #1 here. I would tell anyone to get bloodwork done to make sure things are on the up and up before embarking on any steroid cycle, and after they're done.

    Know what you're fucking with before doing any of this. I'm not advocating anyone use steroids hereÖ BUT, if you choose to, what I've listed above is a little safer than what most guys are doing nowadays.

    Train hard!!

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    I needed to hear this.
    Thanks

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    Great information here, thank you. Iím about to do my first cycle, and have been doing loads of research. I notice that not to many people go the route youíre describing here, with a lower test administration weekly. But I like the thinking behind this, on so many levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bratson View Post
    Great information here, thank you. Iím about to do my first cycle, and have been doing loads of research. I notice that not to many people go the route youíre describing here, with a lower test administration weekly. But I like the thinking behind this, on so many levels.
    This is the truth brother !!!!

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    I think most guys get to this place eventually. When you aren't young and stupid and trying to pack on 30lbs in 8 weeks and you have a nice base already, you just want solid gains without a heavy physical and mental price.

    The test levels are slightly lower than my preference, and maybe throw in a couple iu's of GH, but I'm 100% in agreement on everything else. It's nice to see someone nowadays that doesn't think tren should be treated like EQ or deca.

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    OTG85...very nice!!! I've been hitting since 1984. The examples you offered are absolutely spot on. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harbormaster View Post
    I think most guys get to this place eventually. When you aren't young and stupid and trying to pack on 30lbs in 8 weeks and you have a nice base already, you just want solid gains without a heavy physical and mental price.

    The test levels are slightly lower than my preference, and maybe throw in a couple iu's of GH, but I'm 100% in agreement on everything else. It's nice to see someone nowadays that doesn't think tren should be treated like EQ or deca.
    Iíve read enough about tren and finasteride that Iím NEVER touching either. That said Iím a 45 year old dude on my second marriage with 2 young kids. Iíve been through enough drama in my life. I donít need to create any more for myself or the people I love.

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    I know what you mean Captain. Hell, I'm 54 and trying to just be happy with what I have. On my 3rd marriage now. When someone leaves you it brings you down to earth. Good luck to you and all you do brother!!!!!

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