Exactly this. Maybe AP, PC, and the others are made in facilities of some kind...maybe. But nothing domestic is made in anything more than maybe a modified basement or attic at bestI know what you are saying. Basically all of this stuff is UGL, that's the bottom line. No need to try and confuse it any by saying that it is pharm grade. Just let the product speak for itself, that is the best way for a lab to set themselves apart from the rest.