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Dude I love your thread and progress!
It looks like the extreme sleepiness has went away (thank goodness). I was about to switch to night time injections based on some advice, but now I'm back to (higher than before) energy levels, so this is great.
Waiting patiently on some of the other positive effects, but I know HGH is long game, so I'll be patient, haha
These G's are top quality, I've been recommending them to clients for years now.It looks like the extreme sleepiness has went away (thank goodness). I was about to switch to night time injections based on some advice, but now I'm back to (higher than before) energy levels, so this is great.
Waiting patiently on some of the other positive effects, but I know HGH is long game, so I'll be patient, haha
These G's are top quality, I've been recommending them to clients for years now.
Do you plan on pulling blood-work on these anytime soon?
Already paid for the test via privatemdlabs. Was going to give the bloods on Friday, but I was halfway through eating a bowl of chicken fried rice when I remembered that this just fucked up my fast.
That is the exact protocol that I suggest and been recommending for years.The plan is the following:
- Begin fast at or before midnight on Sunday
- Reconstitute HGH with 1ml of bacteriostatic water
- Pin 10iu HGH around 9-10am
- Inject directly into my bicep (which has never been injected into before) with a 25g needle
- 3-3.5 hours later, get my blood taken
- Wait for results
That is the exact protocol that I suggest and been recommending for years.
You can use a slin pin in the Bi if you have one..
Oh seriously? Do you know the largest gauge we can safely use pinning IM without the needle having a chance of like breaking off or something crazy? Normally I've been pinning oils with 27g subq and HGH with 30g subq. It'd be amazing if I can safely pin into bicep with 30 subq
I keep finding conflicting information here and I've never tried an IM injection.
Oh seriously? Do you know the largest gauge we can safely use pinning IM without the needle having a chance of like breaking off or something crazy? Normally I've been pinning oils with 27g subq and HGH with 30g subq. It'd be amazing if I can safely pin into bicep with 30 subq
I keep finding conflicting information here and I've never tried an IM injection.
That's a good protocol. I also highly recommend pinning HGH intramuscularly into your bicep when testing.Oh seriously? Do you know the largest gauge we can safely use pinning IM without the needle having a chance of like breaking off or something crazy? Normally I've been pinning oils with 27g subq and HGH with 30g subq. It'd be amazing if I can safely pin into bicep with 30 subq
I keep finding conflicting information here and I've never tried an IM injection.
Tests came in! Looks like the HGH was literally off the charts at >65.0
Looks like my IGF-I is actually below the average. Unfortunately this wasn't part of the bloods I took before this (only lipids, test / etc), so I can't compare how it has changed with the HGH.
Tests came in! Looks like the HGH was literally off the charts at >65.0
Looks like my IGF-I is actually below the average. Unfortunately this wasn't part of the bloods I took before this (only lipids, test / etc), so I can't compare how it has changed with the HGH.
Yep without a baseline IGF-1 it’s hard to gauge but even at 2-2.5iu daily I would expect you to be higher than that. That HGH serum being that high is a little concerning as well. That seems too high. I think Vision will have some better insight than me on this though.
So like, is there any way I could have fucked this up? I injected an entire bottle which should be exactly 10iu following the protocol that everyone seems to agree on.
Yeah the IGF 1 is bothering me, and now I regret not getting a baseline on that. I guess we can see what it looks like ~4 week from now.
So like, is there any way I could have fucked this up? I injected an entire bottle which should be exactly 10iu following the protocol that everyone seems to agree on.
Yeah the IGF 1 is bothering me, and now I regret not getting a baseline on that. I guess we can see what it looks like ~4 week from now.
igf1 usually gets higher within 3-4 weeks...
Well the serum test came back fine. The problem is IGF levels take weeks of usage before they elevate. You are barely 3 weeks in so it could continue to raise. I would retest just IGF-1 levels after another 2-3 weeks of daily usage. You don’t need to do the 10iu injection 3 hours before for IGF levels. Just order the IGF test only and get blood taken fasted in the morning.
Testing for IGF is best around 5 weeks or so, 3 weeks is still on the earlier side..Yeah it has been 3-4 weeks, so me being below average is weird. I've pinned 2-3 iu a day subq
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Cool. Will do. At minimum, we've established this stuff knocked the GH test out of the park. I can't find many other bloods people have posted, but I think they're usually lower on the GH Serum test.
Testing for IGF is best around 5 weeks or so, 3 weeks is still on the earlier side..
IGF levels is something that takes time to build..
You are within range, and it doesn't necessarily mean something is wrong or you did something wrong with that score at the same time, there's been cases where people have high HGH levels and low igf ue to catabolic conditions or other unknown genetic predisposition, diet, hormones reactions and so on.
At your daily dose that is just about therapeutic like dosages, I wouldn't expect anything super high at 3 weeks in at those levels with IGF, that is why it was suggested to use the full 10iu at 1mL to show HGH serum levels if there was anything questionable with IGF.
those levels are very high with HGH, although its not often we see that, its not uncommon either, we have a few guys that do bloods here and there for us and one is a very high hyper responded and hits high numbers like yours , where others fall around 20's, and myself I always score around 17-20, I had 19.9 on my last bloods and that is good for me, yet I see guys in the 30's and 40's.. different responses, this goes to prove that this is not a one size fits all and we can not always compare bloods with others..
we can speculate all day with possible variables and it will get us nowhere due to no base line bloods.
Here's a quick example of a user that tested HGH here was his response -
Here are my baseline (pretty old now) and my IGF results after one month of use. I am taking 2IUs a day of Eurotropin HGH, split into two 1IU shots and had been doing so for a month when the IGF test was done. I think the results are very good, pushed me out of the normal range and it is only 2IUs! I am going to post a jpg of the second page of the blood test results - the first page was irrelevant, since it was CBC, Liver Functions, etc. IGF went from 99 to 284!
Now had he tested soon, there is a great chance his igf would be lower, who knows.. 4-5 weeks is best, 5 weeks is most ideal for IGF