your pretty sure all creatine does is water retention? bro, seriously... where in the world did you ever come to that conclusion... absurd would be a friendly thing to say about that comment... that's far beyond absurd... yes, monohydrate can hold some water, absolutely but "all it does?" you do realize there's SEVERAL types of creatine too right? not all of them have water retention at all... creatine is always a good thing to use... comments like this are so discouraging to see the abundance of misguided individuals out there... try ancient strength creatine at n2bm and you can see for yourself there are different types of creatine... gearhead made a strong recommendation and i definitely agree with the method he provided you... he hit it right on with that one as welll... add the ancient strength to the formula he provided along with lgd-4033 and you will some serious gains... 10 mg day of lgd, ancient strength and dspark will give you everything you want and A LOT more... you will get the size your after except clean size that is retainable and sustainable...