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    Vegan diet and supps

    Do any of you take any supplements? Do you think they're necessary on a vegan diet? What kind? Maybe B12, omegas? Other vitamins and minerals?

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    whether you are a vegan or a meat eater you can still be deficient in vitamins and minerals.. it starts with gut health

    ironically there are way more meat eaters who lack B12 and eating more meat actually makes the problem worse cause they fuck up their gut health more and more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mask44 View Post
    Do any of you take any supplements? Do you think they're necessary on a vegan diet? What kind? Maybe B12, omegas? Other vitamins and minerals?
    I won't be doing Vegan anytime this century

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    Quote Originally Posted by mask44 View Post
    Do any of you take any supplements? Do you think they're necessary on a vegan diet? What kind? Maybe B12, omegas? Other vitamins and minerals?
    I'm not vegan but what I've seen B12 and omegas are usually the most common nutrient deficiencies on plant based diet.
    However you need to take a look at your own overall diet and see if there's something lacking and cover it with either supplements or food itself.
    We can't tell based on this information you provided whether you need supplements or not.

    And like Steve said you can develop deficiencies with any diet if you don't design it properly.

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    Let's be honest. Vegan, or Veganism, is as much a statement as it is a way of eating. And, all too often, it looks like something people do for a bit. Then don't.

    Why not just eat properly all the time? If you want good veg, organic or otherwise, grow your own. Want proper meat? Go visit a farmer, see how they breed and raise their animals and buy a WHOLE animal from them and freeze it. It'll be close to shop price anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevesmi View Post
    whether you are a vegan or a meat eater you can still be deficient in vitamins and minerals.. it starts with gut health

    ironically there are way more meat eaters who lack B12 and eating more meat actually makes the problem worse cause they fuck up their gut health more and more.
    I've never once seen a doctor recommend B12 for a meat eater.

    B12 is however always recommended for vegans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasT View Post
    I've never once seen a doctor recommend B12 for a meat eater.

    B12 is however always recommended for vegans.
    Of course Steve didn't say docs recommended it. B12 for vegans is a necessity as it's the one vit they can't get from a proper vegan diet

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasT View Post
    I've never once seen a doctor recommend B12 for a meat eater.

    B12 is however always recommended for vegans.
    FALSE

    people with crohns disease are given B12 injections, and they eat plenty of meat. in fact it is one of the factors that led them to having crohns explode in the first place

    see these are the false information that people think that I post about on these forums. even though 99% of people think I am wrong. why don't you google "B12 crohns disease" and read up on it before telling me i am wrong. the bodybuilder diet destroys the stomach over the years, and many older bodybuilder/meatheads who do the 8 meal a day BS 100% will have deficiencies as they age.

    having a healthy gut is the #1 solution to vitamin deficiencies. also I will re-iterate again, just because a food has high amounts of a vitamin or mineral, doesn't mean eating it will boost that in your body. that is the MYTH that people can't seem to shake off. example: eating something with a lot of cholesterol (eggs) will give you high cholesterol or my favorite that eating foods high in fat (coconut oil, raw nuts, avocado, etc) will make you fat. both are completely WRONG. which goes back to the original point. eating a high meat diet will NOT solve a B12 deficiency, in fact over time it will make it WORSE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobster View Post
    B12 for vegans is a necessity as it's the one vit they can't get from a proper vegan diet
    not true at all. it is actually the opposite in most cases

    I know plenty of vegans who have zero issues with b12. none at all. again it isn't about eating foods with any particular vitamin or mineral. that isn't how this works. the medical community is so retarded that they don't even grasp this concept.

    as many times as I say it on forums or in person to people, they still refuse to listen. I dated a girl who refused to eat anything with any fat on it. if i cooked with coconut or olive oil she wouldn't eat it. fat is bad! fat makes you fat! thats what she thought. human nature is naturally going to think if you eat something that has fat, it will go in your body and turn into fat. so really i know that 99% of you guys on here will not listen to what i am saying and will continue to think that if you consume a food with B12 you will magically boost B12. i cannot argue it
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevesmi View Post
    FALSE

    people with crohns disease are given B12 injections, and they eat plenty of meat. in fact it is one of the factors that led them to having crohns explode in the first place

    see these are the false information that people think that I post about on these forums. even though 99% of people think I am wrong. why don't you google "B12 crohns disease" and read up on it before telling me i am wrong. the bodybuilder diet destroys the stomach over the years, and many older bodybuilder/meatheads who do the 8 meal a day BS 100% will have deficiencies as they age.

    having a healthy gut is the #1 solution to vitamin deficiencies. also I will re-iterate again, just because a food has high amounts of a vitamin or mineral, doesn't mean eating it will boost that in your body. that is the MYTH that people can't seem to shake off. example: eating something with a lot of cholesterol (eggs) will give you high cholesterol or my favorite that eating foods high in fat (coconut oil, raw nuts, avocado, etc) will make you fat. both are completely WRONG. which goes back to the original point. eating a high meat diet will NOT solve a B12 deficiency, in fact over time it will make it WORSE.
    it's just the way you are saying it...

    Having a separate issue like crohns is completely different. Having a balanced healthy diet is of course the best solution for everyone. The point is that Vegans tend to have a harder time with B12 than meat eaters, on average.

    Veganism is somewhat new and it's a western first world phenomenon which we are only beginning to study the outcome of the diet now on a larger scale.

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