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Approved Log 1st bigboy cycle - Testosterone Trenbolone Anavar Log

wzrd88

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Hey guys, been lurking in the forums for awhile now and decided to jump on my first big boy cycle, I’ve been doing a trt dose of Test E at 200mg per week for about a year now and feel like i have a proper base again after being out of the gym for over 4 years. Having all of you guys to peer review my cycle has also given me the confidence to take the big leap.

Stats:
33 yr Male 5”9
180 lbs, 12-14% bodyfat
Training 5 days a week, with fasted cardio 2 days a week
Diet - 2500-2800 calories 40/40/20 protein/carbs/fat
Will most likely up my calories by another 500 or so after tracking weekly gains

Past Cycle: Test E 200mg/week

Goal:
Put on 8-12 lbs lean muscle
Maintain or drop body fat % to sub 10
Increase strength in the big 3 lifts

Plan:
14 Week Cycle
Week 1-14 Test E 250 mg 2x week
Week 1-14 Tren E 200 mg 2x week
Week 1-8 Anavar 50 mg/day

I’m looking for some guidance on whether or not to jump on arimidex and hcg for pct afterwards and was hoping that someone can look at my bloodwork and let me know what other tests i should get done such as prolactin levels etc. I will also get the bloodwork done every month to see how im doing with side effects and how its effecting my levels.
 

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Hey guys, been lurking in the forums for awhile now and decided to jump on my first big boy cycle, I’ve been doing a trt dose of Test E at 200mg per week for about a year now and feel like i have a proper base again after being out of the gym for over 4 years. Having all of you guys to peer review my cycle has also given me the confidence to take the big leap.

Stats:
33 yr Male 5”9
180 lbs, 12-14% bodyfat
Training 5 days a week, with fasted cardio 2 days a week
Diet - 2500-2800 calories 40/40/20 protein/carbs/fat
Will most likely up my calories by another 500 or so after tracking weekly gains

Past Cycle: Test E 200mg/week

Goal:
Put on 8-12 lbs lean muscle
Maintain or drop body fat % to sub 10
Increase strength in the big 3 lifts

Plan:
14 Week Cycle
Week 1-14 Test E 250 mg 2x week
Week 1-14 Tren E 200 mg 2x week
Week 1-8 Anavar 50 mg/day


I’m looking for some guidance on whether or not to jump on arimidex and hcg for pct afterwards and was hoping that someone can look at my bloodwork and let me know what other tests i should get done such as prolactin levels etc. I will also get the bloodwork done every month to see how im doing with side effects and how its effecting my levels.
Couple issues here.
You've taken only test at 200mg/wk prior? I would not use tren for a first real cycle. I would go with deca at 300mg/wk
Your cardio is lacking. You need to up it to at least 5 days a week. If you stick with tren you are gonna take a cardio hit.
You will also need to add in Cardarine to aid in the cardio.
You are also not gonna want to run tren for 14 weeks. 8-10 weeks max. Same with the oral. 4-6 weeks max.
You don't mention estrogen or prolactin control? You may not need it but you need to have it on hand.
Organ protection?
If your on TRT you won't PCT. If you plan on coming off your PCT plan is horrible. Follow the perfect PCT in the stickys.
IMO, i would not do this cycle with your PED experience.. Test and deca would be a great cycle for growth. You really don't need tren unless you are competing.
 
Couple issues here.
You've taken only test at 200mg/wk prior? I would not use tren for a first real cycle. I would go with deca at 300mg/wk
Your cardio is lacking. You need to up it to at least 5 days a week. If you stick with tren you are gonna take a cardio hit.
You will also need to add in Cardarine to aid in the cardio.
You are also not gonna want to run tren for 14 weeks. 8-10 weeks max. Same with the oral. 4-6 weeks max.
You don't mention estrogen or prolactin control? You may not need it but you need to have it on hand.
Organ protection?
If your on TRT you won't PCT. If you plan on coming off your PCT plan is horrible. Follow the perfect PCT in the stickys.
IMO, i would not do this cycle with your PED experience.. Test and deca would be a great cycle for growth. You really don't need tren unless you are competing.
Thank you for the advice, i was trying to get that hard competition look thats why i gravitated towards tren but i think you’re right, i will most likely switch it up to deca after looking more into it.
to answer your questions, yeah ive only been taking test e 200mg/wk for about a year now, I play basketball atleast once a week if not twice and we run pretty hard because i train a couple of national level athletes so i thought my cardio would be fine, but if tren is gonna turn it to shit then ill add in more sessions. Would cardio be effected by deca?
I have tamoxifen/anastrazole on hand currently if needed.
Im currently in bangladesh for an extended visit and i dont know what organ protection stuff i can get my hands on but im open to suggestions.
also idk if i plan to come off trt just yet, especially since ill be in asia for awhile longer, im thinking about coming off maybe in the summertime when im back in the states so i can have access to the proper meds/supps.
 
Thank you for the advice, i was trying to get that hard competition look thats why i gravitated towards tren but i think you’re right, i will most likely switch it up to deca after looking more into it.
to answer your questions, yeah ive only been taking test e 200mg/wk for about a year now, I play basketball atleast once a week if not twice and we run pretty hard because i train a couple of national level athletes so i thought my cardio would be fine, but if tren is gonna turn it to shit then ill add in more sessions. Would cardio be effected by deca?
I have tamoxifen/anastrazole on hand currently if needed.
Im currently in bangladesh for an extended visit and i dont know what organ protection stuff i can get my hands on but im open to suggestions.
also idk if i plan to come off trt just yet, especially since ill be in asia for awhile longer, im thinking about coming off maybe in the summertime when im back in the states so i can have access to the proper meds/supps.
Wise choice holding off on the tren. Basketball would not be fun.
Deca will also affect your cardio a bit as you will put on a bit of water and there could be a raise in BP.
If you plan on doing cardio based sports any bulking agents will give you some issues.
Keep the test and deca low and shouldn't be a big deal.
Diet and training are gonna be 95% here. What does yours look like?
 
Hey guys, been lurking in the forums for awhile now and decided to jump on my first big boy cycle, I’ve been doing a trt dose of Test E at 200mg per week for about a year now and feel like i have a proper base again after being out of the gym for over 4 years. Having all of you guys to peer review my cycle has also given me the confidence to take the big leap.

Stats:
33 yr Male 5”9
180 lbs, 12-14% bodyfat
Training 5 days a week, with fasted cardio 2 days a week
Diet - 2500-2800 calories 40/40/20 protein/carbs/fat
Will most likely up my calories by another 500 or so after tracking weekly gains

Past Cycle: Test E 200mg/week

Goal:
Put on 8-12 lbs lean muscle
Maintain or drop body fat % to sub 10
Increase strength in the big 3 lifts

Plan:
14 Week Cycle
Week 1-14 Test E 250 mg 2x week
Week 1-14 Tren E 200 mg 2x week
Week 1-8 Anavar 50 mg/day

I’m looking for some guidance on whether or not to jump on arimidex and hcg for pct afterwards and was hoping that someone can look at my bloodwork and let me know what other tests i should get done such as prolactin levels etc. I will also get the bloodwork done every month to see how im doing with side effects and how its effecting my levels.
@wzrd88 welcome to the evolutionary.org family, this is a great start to a power log I can see it now

but on the steroids, going from TRT to trenbolone usually is not the best case, and pct is not needed with your post-cycle TRT, but if you want to put on 8-12lbs of LEAN muscle, thats going to be hard without trenbolone to be honest, but you can push that up with equipoise but trenbolone is the clear winner, especially you're going low dose, use it

i checked your bloods, your estrogen is border high, you should be on aromasin this whole cycle or if you cant get it, get arimidex, 0.5mgs eod to start off or aromasin 12.5mgs eod

the cycle if you want to stick to trenbolone you need ancillaries to lower the sides, so cycle would look like this

week 1-14
500mgs testosterone/week 250/250
200mgs trenbolone enan/week 100/100
50mgs anavar/day (1-8)
Add- ancillaries
aromasin or arimidex - see doses above
cardarine/anti tren cough - 20mgs cardarine/ed 10/10
organ liver support a must - 7caps n2guard/ed (reading info https://n2guard.com)
and on your bloods your cholesterol seems off so we need to see more about you share more

diet, we need to see the foods you eat meals and when you eat them how much
training, we need to see exercises that you do and when you do them, how many weights etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

pictures
please share with us your face blurred picture
also share some pictures of your meals
 
Thank you for the advice, i was trying to get that hard competition look thats why i gravitated towards tren but i think you’re right, i will most likely switch it up to deca after looking more into it.
to answer your questions, yeah ive only been taking test e 200mg/wk for about a year now, I play basketball atleast once a week if not twice and we run pretty hard because i train a couple of national level athletes so i thought my cardio would be fine, but if tren is gonna turn it to shit then ill add in more sessions. Would cardio be effected by deca?
I have tamoxifen/anastrazole on hand currently if needed.
Im currently in bangladesh for an extended visit and i dont know what organ protection stuff i can get my hands on but im open to suggestions.
also idk if i plan to come off trt just yet, especially since ill be in asia for awhile longer, im thinking about coming off maybe in the summertime when im back in the states so i can have access to the proper meds/supps.
@wzrd88 while I do agree with @s.gentz that tren might be harsh at high doses, 200mgs of tren is fine for you

you can get TRT in Asia, testosterone is old OTC in most pharmacies local ones in Bangladesh
if you cant get n2guard in Asia you can try to get something OTC with herbs but lets start with updating diet training pics etc

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...rone-trenbolone-anavar-log.96224/post-1420079
 
you need an AI from day 1 if you run 500mgs of test

also what is the purpose of hcg in pct if you are just staying on. i hope you don't think after being on a year that just running some hcg and some other stuff for pct is gonna help you. cause i promise it won't
 
if you are jumping from TRT to tren you will never recover properly
is that your plan?
 
i think tren is a fantastic steroid if you are ready
just be ready to stay on a cruise when you come off
and get your log up
 
Make sure you get pictures up we want to see what you look like for sure
 
you can always change things up there is no rule
 
nobody mentioned you're going 14 weeks on a cycle like this that is way too long the side effects will be brutal
 
make sure you double up on n2guard towards the 2nd half of the cycle or it won't be fun
 
bros i would do 200mgs test at most here
tren is okay at that dose but might want to back off a bit. 350mgs max
 
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