2 issues.. slight gyno, and use of adderal will on cycle

[Rooster]

First off, it's good to be back to Evo after a few months and hope everyone is well. I have 2 issues/questions I'm needing some advice! First off on issue with gyno and also what's your experience with taking prescribed adderal while on gear.

- I have come into an issue with gyno in my right side nipple. The last pin was at the first of October 2014 and had zero issue with gyno throughout cycle. About a month or so ago I started to have tenderness in my right nipple, no itching or swelling really just tender to touch and I feel a hard feeling/knot under the nipple. Further more ( and I know this will sound extremely ignorant to most vets but I did not follow through with my PCT due to influence of older bodybuilders who say they never done a post and it's no problem and for another reason I will explain in next paragraph. I originally thought it could be something differnt then gyno because it's been so long since last pin but it was verified by my primary doc which told me there was nothing I could do but wait to see if it goes away or If that didn't happen I needed to get a fucking "mammogram" !! I did not reveal I have used I used PEDs in past. What can I do about this?i am ready for my next cycle which will be my 4th run. Last run I did a 12 week cycle of test cyp(alpha pharma) at 500mg a week with a prop kickstart for first 3 weeks at 100mg eod. I want to start my cycle within next week or 2. Advice please. I have all gear and post on hand along with armidex to boot. Do I need to start the armidex to help with the little gyno I have now or what? Any advice appreciated !!!

-secondly,, I was put on adderal for ADD about 3 months ago. Amazing medicine but the down side is it contstricts blood flow and during my workouts I get extremly winded. I'm in fairly decent shape need to be a lot better but I would like to know if anyone had expereince of takes adderal while running gear? I was also put on BP meds due to high stress and also the bp issues the adderal causes. What do you guys think? That's the other reason I didn't follow through with post, didn't want to take a bunch of pills at once! Maybe I messed up but it's done.

Next cycle. On hand:

Sust 250 1-12 (600 week)
Prop 100 1-3 (100eod)
Armidex on hand ( how should I run In this situation with the slight gyno?)

5,8
Currently 163lbs
31yo
4th cycle

End of last run:
183lb swole as shit for my body type, and very happy with the AP products I was running

Thanks!

 

[kneelmeh]

Well...............before all the experienced people here and the mods kick in, let me start off by saying that it's the dumbest thing to not plan a PCT before a cycle, let alone not doing it at all. Never hear what others say.........fuck one of my close bud told me that he did a 1.4 grams of tren ace a week and suggested I should do the same. I told him to piss off......well not literally but in my mind. Anyhow I don't know about you but I wouldn't run another cycle till my gyno is in total control or vanished.

Follow this sticky and see what you can do http://www.evolutionary.org/evolutionary-anti-gynecomastia-cycle-v2-0/

Once again bro, I know you have done 4 cycles but never to any cycle without a well planned PCT. All of us wish we had Arnold's genes but sadly we don't.

 

[gearhead]

bro gyno can come way after your cycle is done...IMO I wouldn't risk it, run an anti-gyno regiment asap: http://www.evolutionary.org/evolutionary-anti-gynecomastia-cycle-v2-0/

 

[bulldog333]

Further more ( and I know this will sound extremely ignorant to most vets but I did not follow through with my PCT due to influence of older bodybuilders who say they never done a post and it's no problem and for another reason I will explain in next paragraph.

Thanks!

This is some seriously reckless, foolish shit bro...Am I interpreting this correctly? Did you have a PCT on hand and simply didn't "follow through" with it...? It's a bad move to wait until the end of your cycle to get your PCT but if you had it on hand and simply didn't use it that's just crazy...

OK I'm done bashing...you do NOT need to start another cycle until you have your current issues under control. follow the gyno protocol that's linked above immediately... did you have blood work done at your doctors visit?

 

[Shrine]

No PCT is silly bro.. You will find out for yourself real quick. My wife's parents also think vitamins and supplementation doesnt work which we all no is straight up ignorance

 

[Rooster]

Yes. I know it was stupid. I have learned my lesson so thanks for the ball busting I expected. Now, when I say it is slight gyno, I do mean very slight. No puffy nipples, just a little tenderness and little hard place under the nipple. I just want to know all my options. I have armidex and clomid in hand now. Is there a armidex regimen I can do? Oh, I also have liquid letro. And yes I read the sticky before I started this thread. Just looking for each indivuals expereince and remedies. Thanks

 

[stevesmi]

always keep ancillaries on hand bro. don't take chances with this

and yes I agree pct should be bought before your cycle.. its that important

 

[Dynex]

you will be fine with the addredall.. I use concerta

 

[meathead96]

Not using PCT is just plain stupid. Whoever told you that did not give you good advice. You should have your PCT all ready and on hand before you start cycle and always follow a full PCT. I always run aromasin or adex on cycle to control estrogen as well. If you really have gyno I would consider running the anti-gyno protocol that was posted before starting another cycle. I would also get bloodwork to see if you are in fact recovered from your last cycle.

 

[snackmachine]

amphetamine (Adderall) on cycle? That should get your heart racing. But wouldn't affect gyno.

 

[snackmachine]

could have a heart attack though

 

[dylangemelli]

Yes. I know it was stupid. I have learned my lesson so thanks for the ball busting I expected. Now, when I say it is slight gyno, I do mean very slight. No puffy nipples, just a little tenderness and little hard place under the nipple. I just want to know all my options. I have armidex and clomid in hand now. Is there a armidex regimen I can do? Oh, I also have liquid letro. And yes I read the sticky before I started this thread. Just looking for each indivuals expereince and remedies. Thanks

thank you for being a man and taking a little bit of shit all in the know that you were wrong... LETS LAY OFF HIM NOW GUYS and HELP... He took it like a man, admitted a mistake and NEEDS HELP so enough with that shit...

bro, let me ask you this... before we even get into anything, it would be very helpful if you had some bloodwork to provide... is this possible?

 

[Rooster]

Dylan.. Yes it is possible to get bloods. I actually have a doc appointment on the 19th for a full scale test. I also in the past purchased the online test , forgive me but I don't recall the name of site but it was referred to me on this board. I can order one of those and have results in matter of 2-3 days. I can't for the life of me remember the name. I'm sure you guys know the one I'm talking about. The lab is 3 miles from my house.

 

[RickRock]

Without a solid PCT, you can forget about keeping the majority of your gains

 

[JackSteel]

First off, it's good to be back to Evo after a few months and hope everyone is well. I have 2 issues/questions I'm needing some advice! First off on issue with gyno and also what's your experience with taking prescribed adderal while on gear.

- I have come into an issue with gyno in my right side nipple. The last pin was at the first of October 2014 and had zero issue with gyno throughout cycle. About a month or so ago I started to have tenderness in my right nipple, no itching or swelling really just tender to touch and I feel a hard feeling/knot under the nipple. Further more ( and I know this will sound extremely ignorant to most vets but I did not follow through with my PCT due to influence of older bodybuilders who say they never done a post and it's no problem and for another reason I will explain in next paragraph. I originally thought it could be something differnt then gyno because it's been so long since last pin but it was verified by my primary doc which told me there was nothing I could do but wait to see if it goes away or If that didn't happen I needed to get a fucking "mammogram" !! I did not reveal I have used I used PEDs in past. What can I do about this?i am ready for my next cycle which will be my 4th run. Last run I did a 12 week cycle of test cyp(alpha pharma) at 500mg a week with a prop kickstart for first 3 weeks at 100mg eod. I want to start my cycle within next week or 2. Advice please. I have all gear and post on hand along with armidex to boot. Do I need to start the armidex to help with the little gyno I have now or what? Any advice appreciated !!!

-secondly,, I was put on adderal for ADD about 3 months ago. Amazing medicine but the down side is it contstricts blood flow and during my workouts I get extremly winded. I'm in fairly decent shape need to be a lot better but I would like to know if anyone had expereince of takes adderal while running gear? I was also put on BP meds due to high stress and also the bp issues the adderal causes. What do you guys think? That's the other reason I didn't follow through with post, didn't want to take a bunch of pills at once! Maybe I messed up but it's done.

Next cycle. On hand:

Sust 250 1-12 (600 week)
Prop 100 1-3 (100eod)
Armidex on hand ( how should I run In this situation with the slight gyno?)

5,8
Currently 163lbs
31yo
4th cycle

End of last run:
183lb swole as shit for my body type, and very happy with the AP products I was running

Thanks!

Sounds like you had a bad case of estrogen rebound. Why are you already planning your next cycle when you havent gotten this gyno taken care of? I dont know what old bodybuilders you talked to but they clearly don't have much knowledge about steroids.

 

[JackSteel]

yeah, PCTs weren't really known about in the old days, but i find it weird that a veteran older BBer wouldve never felt the effects of the lack of PCT at least a few times. As far as the Adex dose, i'll leave that to the other guys as i can't answer that.

 

[JackSteel]

Oh, and Adderal i've taken off and on. But you'll want to counter act the appetite suppression somehow unless you're cutting on it. Adderal is bad for you over all so i can't tell you it's safe, but That's really up to you and deciding if it's worth the blood pressure bonus

 

[Rooster]

Update.. I started taking adex at 1ng a day for past 3 days and my tenderness is gone completly. Lump still there but has reduced in size . I plan on staying at 1 for 2 more days then cut it to .50 then .25 till I'm satisfied with the issue. Seems to be working thank goodness. I have learned my lesson!!

 

[hurricane]

First off, it's good to be back to Evo after a few months and hope everyone is well. I have 2 issues/questions I'm needing some advice! First off on issue with gyno and also what's your experience with taking prescribed adderal while on gear.

- I have come into an issue with gyno in my right side nipple. The last pin was at the first of October 2014 and had zero issue with gyno throughout cycle. About a month or so ago I started to have tenderness in my right nipple, no itching or swelling really just tender to touch and I feel a hard feeling/knot under the nipple. Further more ( and I know this will sound extremely ignorant to most vets but I did not follow through with my PCT due to influence of older bodybuilders who say they never done a post and it's no problem and for another reason I will explain in next paragraph. I originally thought it could be something differnt then gyno because it's been so long since last pin but it was verified by my primary doc which told me there was nothing I could do but wait to see if it goes away or If that didn't happen I needed to get a fucking "mammogram" !! I did not reveal I have used I used PEDs in past. What can I do about this?i am ready for my next cycle which will be my 4th run. Last run I did a 12 week cycle of test cyp(alpha pharma) at 500mg a week with a prop kickstart for first 3 weeks at 100mg eod. I want to start my cycle within next week or 2. Advice please. I have all gear and post on hand along with armidex to boot. Do I need to start the armidex to help with the little gyno I have now or what? Any advice appreciated !!!

-secondly,, I was put on adderal for ADD about 3 months ago. Amazing medicine but the down side is it contstricts blood flow and during my workouts I get extremly winded. I'm in fairly decent shape need to be a lot better but I would like to know if anyone had expereince of takes adderal while running gear? I was also put on BP meds due to high stress and also the bp issues the adderal causes. What do you guys think? That's the other reason I didn't follow through with post, didn't want to take a bunch of pills at once! Maybe I messed up but it's done.

Next cycle. On hand:

Sust 250 1-12 (600 week)
Prop 100 1-3 (100eod)
Armidex on hand ( how should I run In this situation with the slight gyno?)

5,8
Currently 163lbs
31yo
4th cycle

End of last run:
183lb swole as shit for my body type, and very happy with the AP products I was running

Thanks!

what did you find amazing about adderal?

 

[Handy]

I would not cut until lump goes away which could take weeks or month then when lump is gone cut back