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I wouldn't say its overrated. More like misused and overused. I think Dorian Yates used it the proper way. 152mg/week.
Veteran Log 2024 Para Pharma Testosterone Primobolan Equipoise Tbol Contest Prep Log
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For me it's overrated based on the risk vs reward, I get it people love it and it's God tier for peds, for me personally just not worth risking all the sides and possibilities of personality and attitude changing while on it, id rather skip all that and stick with mild compounds as long as physically possible. Who knows though sometimes things change and I might infact need it one day for being on the stage, until then I will be avoiding it.
So far so good brother
Monday February 12 2024
it has begun....
Starting weight is 216lbs for clarification on that.
I will be continuing the Frank Zane program as i absolutely love it. I go all out 3 days a week hit all my body parts while tossing in some extra isolation movements, i also will keep cardio at 4-5 days a week 45 minutes up into 1hour depending on the time I have.
As all of you can tell by the photo and loaded barrel it is go time!
Today was my first official injection for my Para Pharma 16 week cycle and I am beyond ready and excited for this next step in my bodybuilding journey.
I was a little nervous going into the first Injections which is typical for me and I think normal when taking it into the next level as far as cycle and compounds go.
I must admit I didn't know what to think or how my body would react with higher concentration levels of gear, I was very pleased and surprised at how smooth it went today. I didn't know what to expect after I pressed that plunger down I was like well damn this isn't bad at all, very smooth.
The oil is definitely more viscous this time around that is expected the test alone is 400mg/ml and the primo is 200mg/ml.
I am choosing to start with no AI for the first 4 weeks at the end of those 4 weeks I will be running bloodwork to see all my numbers and especially estrogen, if AI is needed for deployment I have plenty aromasin on hand that I will put into play on a as needed basis, and the dose will be no more than 12mg a week to start. I don't want to crush my estrogen bad news if that happens.
Currently with trt no AI at 150mg a week of test cyp estrogen is at 29 so I don't see me having issues running test at 300-350 a week no AI since primo is at play and from past experience with primo I didn't need an AI at all on cycle.
Also will probably donate blood soon just to keep on the up and up and be safe while running the EQ just something i feel strongly about doing, i feel it is the right call.
I chose the ventro glute as my body takes injections into that area with ease. Been about 1 hour or so since injection took place. I can say with confidence the pip so far is mild at best, I can feel something in my muscle and very very mild soreness. The real test will be 24hrs from now to see what the true pip is looking like.
I use a 25g 1in syringe for injection once loaded into the barrel i like to spin the syringe for 30 seconds back and forth to warm the liquid up in the barrel before i inject it. I believe it can help alleviate the amount of possible pip.
Injections are spilt into M/W/F less oil more spread out = less pip and muscle irritation in my own experience anyway.
I will admit the injection process is alot slower due to the thickness and concentration of the oils, I actually like that, the number one reason is it forces me to injection alot slower and for longer, it helps because I won't flood the muscle with alot of oil quickly, in my mind the slower the injection the more time the oil has to move throughout the muscle and less pip along the way.
the quality is absolutely top notch which is expected when supplied by @ugfreak
This Para Pharma gear is
I often quote it as the para pharma difference as I truly believe Para Pharma gear is next level and will be instrumental in helping me achieve the vison I have long term. It is no secret how much I love PP gear and the results it gives me.
Time to knuckle up and do my part and hit a homerun on the diet, training and cardio for these 16 weeks and beyond.
Enjoy the update everyone!
Wixx
it has begun....
Starting weight is 216lbs for clarification on that.
I will be continuing the Frank Zane program as i absolutely love it. I go all out 3 days a week hit all my body parts while tossing in some extra isolation movements, i also will keep cardio at 4-5 days a week 45 minutes up into 1hour depending on the time I have.
As all of you can tell by the photo and loaded barrel it is go time!
Today was my first official injection for my Para Pharma 16 week cycle and I am beyond ready and excited for this next step in my bodybuilding journey.
I was a little nervous going into the first Injections which is typical for me and I think normal when taking it into the next level as far as cycle and compounds go.
I must admit I didn't know what to think or how my body would react with higher concentration levels of gear, I was very pleased and surprised at how smooth it went today. I didn't know what to expect after I pressed that plunger down I was like well damn this isn't bad at all, very smooth.
The oil is definitely more viscous this time around that is expected the test alone is 400mg/ml and the primo is 200mg/ml.
I am choosing to start with no AI for the first 4 weeks at the end of those 4 weeks I will be running bloodwork to see all my numbers and especially estrogen, if AI is needed for deployment I have plenty aromasin on hand that I will put into play on a as needed basis, and the dose will be no more than 12mg a week to start. I don't want to crush my estrogen bad news if that happens.
Currently with trt no AI at 150mg a week of test cyp estrogen is at 29 so I don't see me having issues running test at 300-350 a week no AI since primo is at play and from past experience with primo I didn't need an AI at all on cycle.
Also will probably donate blood soon just to keep on the up and up and be safe while running the EQ just something i feel strongly about doing, i feel it is the right call.
I chose the ventro glute as my body takes injections into that area with ease. Been about 1 hour or so since injection took place. I can say with confidence the pip so far is mild at best, I can feel something in my muscle and very very mild soreness. The real test will be 24hrs from now to see what the true pip is looking like.
I use a 25g 1in syringe for injection once loaded into the barrel i like to spin the syringe for 30 seconds back and forth to warm the liquid up in the barrel before i inject it. I believe it can help alleviate the amount of possible pip.
Injections are spilt into M/W/F less oil more spread out = less pip and muscle irritation in my own experience anyway.
I will admit the injection process is alot slower due to the thickness and concentration of the oils, I actually like that, the number one reason is it forces me to injection alot slower and for longer, it helps because I won't flood the muscle with alot of oil quickly, in my mind the slower the injection the more time the oil has to move throughout the muscle and less pip along the way.
the quality is absolutely top notch which is expected when supplied by @ugfreak
This Para Pharma gear is
I often quote it as the para pharma difference as I truly believe Para Pharma gear is next level and will be instrumental in helping me achieve the vison I have long term. It is no secret how much I love PP gear and the results it gives me.
Time to knuckle up and do my part and hit a homerun on the diet, training and cardio for these 16 weeks and beyond.
Enjoy the update everyone!
Wixx
Congrats on the start of your long awaited cycle. I am going to convince you to do NPP or Deca on your next one and ditch the EQ. IMO there is no purpose for EQ other than to make you incredibly hungry. I suppose if your trying to bulk with massive cals it is a good choice. Thats my opinion anyway. I don't think I will ever use it again and it used to be my steroid of choice I ran with every cycle.
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Enjoy!Monday February 12 2024
it has begun....
Starting weight is 216lbs for clarification on that.
I will be continuing the Frank Zane program as i absolutely love it. I go all out 3 days a week hit all my body parts while tossing in some extra isolation movements, i also will keep cardio at 4-5 days a week 45 minutes up into 1hour depending on the time I have.
As all of you can tell by the photo and loaded barrel it is go time!
Today was my first official injection for my Para Pharma 16 week cycle and I am beyond ready and excited for this next step in my bodybuilding journey.
I was a little nervous going into the first Injections which is typical for me and I think normal when taking it into the next level as far as cycle and compounds go.
I must admit I didn't know what to think or how my body would react with higher concentration levels of gear, I was very pleased and surprised at how smooth it went today. I didn't know what to expect after I pressed that plunger down I was like well damn this isn't bad at all, very smooth.
The oil is definitely more viscous this time around that is expected the test alone is 400mg/ml and the primo is 200mg/ml.
I am choosing to start with no AI for the first 4 weeks at the end of those 4 weeks I will be running bloodwork to see all my numbers and especially estrogen, if AI is needed for deployment I have plenty aromasin on hand that I will put into play on a as needed basis, and the dose will be no more than 12mg a week to start. I don't want to crush my estrogen bad news if that happens.
Currently with trt no AI at 150mg a week of test cyp estrogen is at 29 so I don't see me having issues running test at 300-350 a week no AI since primo is at play and from past experience with primo I didn't need an AI at all on cycle.
Also will probably donate blood soon just to keep on the up and up and be safe while running the EQ just something i feel strongly about doing, i feel it is the right call.
I chose the ventro glute as my body takes injections into that area with ease. Been about 1 hour or so since injection took place. I can say with confidence the pip so far is mild at best, I can feel something in my muscle and very very mild soreness. The real test will be 24hrs from now to see what the true pip is looking like.
I use a 25g 1in syringe for injection once loaded into the barrel i like to spin the syringe for 30 seconds back and forth to warm the liquid up in the barrel before i inject it. I believe it can help alleviate the amount of possible pip.
Injections are spilt into M/W/F less oil more spread out = less pip and muscle irritation in my own experience anyway.
I will admit the injection process is alot slower due to the thickness and concentration of the oils, I actually like that, the number one reason is it forces me to injection alot slower and for longer, it helps because I won't flood the muscle with alot of oil quickly, in my mind the slower the injection the more time the oil has to move throughout the muscle and less pip along the way.
the quality is absolutely top notch which is expected when supplied by @ugfreak
This Para Pharma gear is
I often quote it as the para pharma difference as I truly believe Para Pharma gear is next level and will be instrumental in helping me achieve the vison I have long term. It is no secret how much I love PP gear and the results it gives me.
Time to knuckle up and do my part and hit a homerun on the diet, training and cardio for these 16 weeks and beyond.
Enjoy the update everyone!
Wixx
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I've thought about as a fail safe if EQ doesn't agree with me and I get bad anxiety on it like you did and have a similar experience, I will replace it with NPP if I have the opportunity with doing so, NPP is on my list of compounds I would like run as if does align with my goals and what I am looking into accomplishing.
I primarily picked EQ for its endurance benefits to help me on cycle with the volume I push and amount of cardio I do.
NPP could definitely fit here as well, hopefully the EQ goes well any sign of bad anxiety and feeling anxious I will be dropping out of my cycle like you did.
I don't have time to feel like that on cycle just would not be worth it for me, I like clean hassle free enjoyable cycles that all I got to do is foucs on diet gym and recovery, im not one to contiune something if it doesn't agree with me.
VERY NICE! Similar to my cycle. Looking forward to your cycle log!Monday February 12 2024
it has begun....
Starting weight is 216lbs for clarification on that.
I will be continuing the Frank Zane program as i absolutely love it. I go all out 3 days a week hit all my body parts while tossing in some extra isolation movements, i also will keep cardio at 4-5 days a week 45 minutes up into 1hour depending on the time I have.
As all of you can tell by the photo and loaded barrel it is go time!
Today was my first official injection for my Para Pharma 16 week cycle and I am beyond ready and excited for this next step in my bodybuilding journey.
I was a little nervous going into the first Injections which is typical for me and I think normal when taking it into the next level as far as cycle and compounds go.
I must admit I didn't know what to think or how my body would react with higher concentration levels of gear, I was very pleased and surprised at how smooth it went today. I didn't know what to expect after I pressed that plunger down I was like well damn this isn't bad at all, very smooth.
The oil is definitely more viscous this time around that is expected the test alone is 400mg/ml and the primo is 200mg/ml.
I am choosing to start with no AI for the first 4 weeks at the end of those 4 weeks I will be running bloodwork to see all my numbers and especially estrogen, if AI is needed for deployment I have plenty aromasin on hand that I will put into play on a as needed basis, and the dose will be no more than 12mg a week to start. I don't want to crush my estrogen bad news if that happens.
Currently with trt no AI at 150mg a week of test cyp estrogen is at 29 so I don't see me having issues running test at 300-350 a week no AI since primo is at play and from past experience with primo I didn't need an AI at all on cycle.
Also will probably donate blood soon just to keep on the up and up and be safe while running the EQ just something i feel strongly about doing, i feel it is the right call.
I chose the ventro glute as my body takes injections into that area with ease. Been about 1 hour or so since injection took place. I can say with confidence the pip so far is mild at best, I can feel something in my muscle and very very mild soreness. The real test will be 24hrs from now to see what the true pip is looking like.
I use a 25g 1in syringe for injection once loaded into the barrel i like to spin the syringe for 30 seconds back and forth to warm the liquid up in the barrel before i inject it. I believe it can help alleviate the amount of possible pip.
Injections are spilt into M/W/F less oil more spread out = less pip and muscle irritation in my own experience anyway.
I will admit the injection process is alot slower due to the thickness and concentration of the oils, I actually like that, the number one reason is it forces me to injection alot slower and for longer, it helps because I won't flood the muscle with alot of oil quickly, in my mind the slower the injection the more time the oil has to move throughout the muscle and less pip along the way.
the quality is absolutely top notch which is expected when supplied by @ugfreak
This Para Pharma gear is
I often quote it as the para pharma difference as I truly believe Para Pharma gear is next level and will be instrumental in helping me achieve the vison I have long term. It is no secret how much I love PP gear and the results it gives me.
Time to knuckle up and do my part and hit a homerun on the diet, training and cardio for these 16 weeks and beyond.
Enjoy the update everyone!
Wixx
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Thank you brother prince I appreciate you following along with my journey
yes very similar indeed! Hopefully the results with hardwork will follow!
@Noah Wixx this will be a HUGE cycle I see you killing it 100%Monday February 12 2024
it has begun....
Starting weight is 216lbs for clarification on that.
I will be continuing the Frank Zane program as i absolutely love it. I go all out 3 days a week hit all my body parts while tossing in some extra isolation movements, i also will keep cardio at 4-5 days a week 45 minutes up into 1hour depending on the time I have.
As all of you can tell by the photo and loaded barrel it is go time!
Today was my first official injection for my Para Pharma 16 week cycle and I am beyond ready and excited for this next step in my bodybuilding journey.
I was a little nervous going into the first Injections which is typical for me and I think normal when taking it into the next level as far as cycle and compounds go.
I must admit I didn't know what to think or how my body would react with higher concentration levels of gear, I was very pleased and surprised at how smooth it went today. I didn't know what to expect after I pressed that plunger down I was like well damn this isn't bad at all, very smooth.
The oil is definitely more viscous this time around that is expected the test alone is 400mg/ml and the primo is 200mg/ml.
I am choosing to start with no AI for the first 4 weeks at the end of those 4 weeks I will be running bloodwork to see all my numbers and especially estrogen, if AI is needed for deployment I have plenty aromasin on hand that I will put into play on a as needed basis, and the dose will be no more than 12mg a week to start. I don't want to crush my estrogen bad news if that happens.
Currently with trt no AI at 150mg a week of test cyp estrogen is at 29 so I don't see me having issues running test at 300-350 a week no AI since primo is at play and from past experience with primo I didn't need an AI at all on cycle.
Also will probably donate blood soon just to keep on the up and up and be safe while running the EQ just something i feel strongly about doing, i feel it is the right call.
I chose the ventro glute as my body takes injections into that area with ease. Been about 1 hour or so since injection took place. I can say with confidence the pip so far is mild at best, I can feel something in my muscle and very very mild soreness. The real test will be 24hrs from now to see what the true pip is looking like.
I use a 25g 1in syringe for injection once loaded into the barrel i like to spin the syringe for 30 seconds back and forth to warm the liquid up in the barrel before i inject it. I believe it can help alleviate the amount of possible pip.
Injections are spilt into M/W/F less oil more spread out = less pip and muscle irritation in my own experience anyway.
I will admit the injection process is alot slower due to the thickness and concentration of the oils, I actually like that, the number one reason is it forces me to injection alot slower and for longer, it helps because I won't flood the muscle with alot of oil quickly, in my mind the slower the injection the more time the oil has to move throughout the muscle and less pip along the way.
the quality is absolutely top notch which is expected when supplied by @ugfreak
This Para Pharma gear is
I often quote it as the para pharma difference as I truly believe Para Pharma gear is next level and will be instrumental in helping me achieve the vison I have long term. It is no secret how much I love PP gear and the results it gives me.
Time to knuckle up and do my part and hit a homerun on the diet, training and cardio for these 16 weeks and beyond.
Enjoy the update everyone!
Wixx
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and @ugfreak is awesome for putting para pharma on your table
never noticed any anxiety on equipoise
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