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Veteran Log 2024 Para Pharma Testosterone Primobolan Equipoise Tbol Contest Prep Log
- Thread starter Noah Wixx
- Start date
Wednesday February 14 2024
Current weight 214.3
Pip update, pip on the right ventro glute still just feels like a sore small mild bruise, nothing major I feel it I know it's there it's like ouch for a few seconds if I bump it on accident then I move on and forget about it, not bad at all.
I actually felt way more pip on 100mg/ml could be i had to push much more oil into the body at one time compared with 200mg/ml less oil into the muscle.
Second injection day today for the cycle overall it went in very smooth, I did things a bit differently. I let the vials sit in some hot water first before injection and I did notice a big difference in how it drawed up into the syringe very quick.
injection this time was into the left ventro glute and warming the oil did the trick barely felt the oil going in it was so smooth compared to not warming the oil on monday.
Overall after one injection I noticed already an increase in aggression and a little strength boost in the gym.
I think I will hold off on AI for now untill I run bloods in 4 weeks time, I've heard of EQ keeping estrogen low and I'm also running primo so I'm curious if it is true and I will find out and report back my findings.
If estrogen comes in low I will bump the test dose up some to compensate for it, im starting out at 350mg a week with the test dose. If estrogen comes back super low I will bump the test up into 400mg a week and run the test and primo at a 1:1 ratio and see if it helps.
I will not go over 400mg test the entire cycle, if I have to lower certain compound doses for estrogen reasons so be it, untill then if I'm feeling good we run with my current cyle schedule I listed down below.
Before starting the cycle my estrogen was at a 29 on 150mg a week test cyp no AI for reference.
Originally I was gonna run 300mg across the board for all 3 compounds, then thinking about it I know how well I responded with 400mg a week of primo so I altered the plan a little bit.
Injection frequency M/W/F
Test 350mg a week
EQ 300mg a week
Primo 400mg a week
Enjoy the update everyone!
Wixx
Tuesday was my pull day in the gym.
Back, Biceps, Forearms, Abs (Duration 100 – 110 Minutes)
Workout One
Wide Gripe Rack Pulls
1x15@250lbs
1x12@275lbs
1x10@320lbs
1x10@340lbs
3x1@410lbs
T-Bar Row
3x10@230lbs
1x20@145lbs
Front Lat Pulldown
1x10@160lbs
1x10@165lbs
1x10@170lbs
1x10@175lbs
1x20@130lbs
Seated One Arm Machine Row
1x12@165lbs
1x12@170lbs
1x12@175lbs
1x12@180lbs
1x12@190lbs
Rear Delt Machine
1x10@135lbs
1x10@140lbs
1x10@145lbs
1x20@105lbs
One Arm DB Concentration Curls
3x10@30lbs
1x20@20lbs
Alternating Dumbbell Curls
3x10@30lbs
1x10@35lbs
45° Incline Dumbbell Curls
1x12@25lbs
1x10@30lbs
1x8@35lbs
Barbell Reverse Wrist Curls
3x15@40lbs
Barbell Wrist Curls
3x15@40lbs
Ab Torsion Rotation weighted 55lbs
1x50(left side)
1x50(right side)
Current weight 214.3
Pip update, pip on the right ventro glute still just feels like a sore small mild bruise, nothing major I feel it I know it's there it's like ouch for a few seconds if I bump it on accident then I move on and forget about it, not bad at all.
I actually felt way more pip on 100mg/ml could be i had to push much more oil into the body at one time compared with 200mg/ml less oil into the muscle.
Second injection day today for the cycle overall it went in very smooth, I did things a bit differently. I let the vials sit in some hot water first before injection and I did notice a big difference in how it drawed up into the syringe very quick.
injection this time was into the left ventro glute and warming the oil did the trick barely felt the oil going in it was so smooth compared to not warming the oil on monday.
Overall after one injection I noticed already an increase in aggression and a little strength boost in the gym.
I think I will hold off on AI for now untill I run bloods in 4 weeks time, I've heard of EQ keeping estrogen low and I'm also running primo so I'm curious if it is true and I will find out and report back my findings.
If estrogen comes in low I will bump the test dose up some to compensate for it, im starting out at 350mg a week with the test dose. If estrogen comes back super low I will bump the test up into 400mg a week and run the test and primo at a 1:1 ratio and see if it helps.
I will not go over 400mg test the entire cycle, if I have to lower certain compound doses for estrogen reasons so be it, untill then if I'm feeling good we run with my current cyle schedule I listed down below.
Before starting the cycle my estrogen was at a 29 on 150mg a week test cyp no AI for reference.
Originally I was gonna run 300mg across the board for all 3 compounds, then thinking about it I know how well I responded with 400mg a week of primo so I altered the plan a little bit.
Injection frequency M/W/F
Test 350mg a week
EQ 300mg a week
Primo 400mg a week
Enjoy the update everyone!
Wixx
Tuesday was my pull day in the gym.
Back, Biceps, Forearms, Abs (Duration 100 – 110 Minutes)
Workout One
Wide Gripe Rack Pulls
1x15@250lbs
1x12@275lbs
1x10@320lbs
1x10@340lbs
3x1@410lbs
T-Bar Row
3x10@230lbs
1x20@145lbs
Front Lat Pulldown
1x10@160lbs
1x10@165lbs
1x10@170lbs
1x10@175lbs
1x20@130lbs
Seated One Arm Machine Row
1x12@165lbs
1x12@170lbs
1x12@175lbs
1x12@180lbs
1x12@190lbs
Rear Delt Machine
1x10@135lbs
1x10@140lbs
1x10@145lbs
1x20@105lbs
One Arm DB Concentration Curls
3x10@30lbs
1x20@20lbs
Alternating Dumbbell Curls
3x10@30lbs
1x10@35lbs
45° Incline Dumbbell Curls
1x12@25lbs
1x10@30lbs
1x8@35lbs
Barbell Reverse Wrist Curls
3x15@40lbs
Barbell Wrist Curls
3x15@40lbs
Ab Torsion Rotation weighted 55lbs
1x50(left side)
1x50(right side)
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Those compounds should not cause PIP. Are you maybe twisting the syringe maybe when hitting the glute?
Maybe get someone else to inject you, relax the glute and inject direct?
I had issues with Sustanon and propionate esters, those seem to cause serious PIP. Could not do a shoulder workout one day after a deltoid sustanon shot. No thanks.
I have loaded a syringe (Keep it capped) and run the middle compartment (barrel) under hot water before injecting. Especially with the thicker oil bases. I also like to get the content better mixed personally.
One of the evo podcasts suggested showering before injection, and massaging the area before and after the injection.
I've also heard of icing the injection site before.
Try what works for you. PIP should just be like little itch not more.
Maybe get someone else to inject you, relax the glute and inject direct?
I had issues with Sustanon and propionate esters, those seem to cause serious PIP. Could not do a shoulder workout one day after a deltoid sustanon shot. No thanks.
I have loaded a syringe (Keep it capped) and run the middle compartment (barrel) under hot water before injecting. Especially with the thicker oil bases. I also like to get the content better mixed personally.
One of the evo podcasts suggested showering before injection, and massaging the area before and after the injection.
I've also heard of icing the injection site before.
Try what works for you. PIP should just be like little itch not more.
I do holde the needle as steady as I can when injecting, this is the first time I'm trying out higher concentrations the test is at 400mg/ml primo 200mg/ml & eq 300mg/ml
Yeah the pip is very manageable I don't actually have a bruise it just feels that way when I touch it mildly.
I will say after warming the vials in jot water the injection in my left ventro glute has zero pip or irritation.
Mine isn't to the point it would stop me from a workout more like I just know it's there kind of thing.
I truly appreciate all that advice and knowledge you just gave me prince! I love learning and becoming more educated, I thank you for that.
I will have to try that barrel method capped and see how that goes!
I love the evo podcasts some of the best stuff around!
This will be a sick cycle brother.
Man I'm gonna have to try NPP at doke point I keep hearing so many killer things about it! I might have to run a milder cycle in the future and just do some Test and NPP maybe a little GH and see how much I can grow, could definitely be a future cycle idea.
Thursday February 15 2024
Push day today it went extremely well, im feeling a little stronger in all my lifts and they are going up already which is a good feeling.
Aggression is at an all time high for me a few Injections in, not really sure why that is but it is 1000% through the roof lol.
It could possibly be that this is my first higher mg cycle i am attempting and the flood of androgens is just hitting me hard and maybe EQ brings out my aggression because I didn't experience it on this level in this way with just test and primo.
I'm running test 150mg higher than I ever have in the past which can also be a big contribution to the androgen intensity.
My Aggression isn't I'm looking for fights or starting fights or treating anyone poorly nothing like that at all, it's the kind of Aggression that 30-45 minutes after I inject I can feel it in my jaw, face and in my mind and I get this rush and wave of just aggression in my mind.
when i hit the weightes i murder them to the best of my ability and i can feel the rage benefitting my mindset and my physical ability to preform at a better level.
i am good at containing it internally and harnessing it in the gym only, once I leave that setting I cool that part of me way way down.
overall I feel good nothing negative to report about other than the pip being hot and heavy lol, still trying out different methods and injection sites to offset it along with icing the area etc.
I chose higher concentrations so that is on me for that choice and my mistake as my line of thinking was backwards on this so i own that on me 100% now we just let it ride and deal with it the best we can as long as I can workout and preform we are golden and G2G.
No pain no gain as they say
either way not para pharmas fault its my fault for loving some potent quality killer gear 
Side note para pharma is absolutely potent i don't care who agrees or who doesn't, I am speaking from my personal experience and the minute I went from trt into that para pharma gear man it hit me like fucking freight train I am 3 Injections deep so far and yeah I can tell after it is coursing through my veins because my mindset has been flipped upside down and I'm ready to get shit done.
Enjoy the update everyone!
Wixx
DB Bench Press
1x15@50lbs
1x12@55lbs
1x12@60lbs
1x10@65lbs
1x8@75lbs
70° Incline DB Press (Drop Angle Down Each Set
1X10@55lbs
1x10@60lbs
1x8@65lbs
1x6@70lbs
Pec Dec Machine
1x12@210lbs
1x10@215lbs
1x10@220lbs
1x30@105lbs
DB Isolation Movement
1x15@25lbs
1x15@30lbs
1x15@35lbs
Close Grip Bench Press 3x12,
1x12@185lbs
1x10@190lbs
1x8@195lbs
1x15@145lbs
V-Grip Pressdown
1X20@65lbs
1x15@70lbs
1x12@75lbs
1x10@80lbs
2x5@100lbs
Tricep Extension Machine
3x15@235lbs
Rope Push-Down
1X20@40lbs
1x15@35lbs
1x12@30lbs
1x25@25lbs
Seated DB Lateral Raise
1x15@25lbs
1x12@30lbs
1x10@35lbs
Seated DB Side Lateral Raises
1X15@20lbs
3X10@25lbs
1x8@30lbs
AB Torsion Rotation Machine
1x100 ( left side)
1x100( right side )
Cardio
Incline 5.5
Speed 3.0
Miles 1.75
Calories burned 240
Duration 35 minutes.
Push day today it went extremely well, im feeling a little stronger in all my lifts and they are going up already which is a good feeling.
Aggression is at an all time high for me a few Injections in, not really sure why that is but it is 1000% through the roof lol.
It could possibly be that this is my first higher mg cycle i am attempting and the flood of androgens is just hitting me hard and maybe EQ brings out my aggression because I didn't experience it on this level in this way with just test and primo.
I'm running test 150mg higher than I ever have in the past which can also be a big contribution to the androgen intensity.
My Aggression isn't I'm looking for fights or starting fights or treating anyone poorly nothing like that at all, it's the kind of Aggression that 30-45 minutes after I inject I can feel it in my jaw, face and in my mind and I get this rush and wave of just aggression in my mind.
when i hit the weightes i murder them to the best of my ability and i can feel the rage benefitting my mindset and my physical ability to preform at a better level.
i am good at containing it internally and harnessing it in the gym only, once I leave that setting I cool that part of me way way down.
overall I feel good nothing negative to report about other than the pip being hot and heavy lol, still trying out different methods and injection sites to offset it along with icing the area etc.
I chose higher concentrations so that is on me for that choice and my mistake as my line of thinking was backwards on this so i own that on me 100% now we just let it ride and deal with it the best we can as long as I can workout and preform we are golden and G2G.
No pain no gain as they say
either way not para pharmas fault its my fault for loving some potent quality killer gear Side note para pharma is absolutely potent i don't care who agrees or who doesn't, I am speaking from my personal experience and the minute I went from trt into that para pharma gear man it hit me like fucking freight train I am 3 Injections deep so far and yeah I can tell after it is coursing through my veins because my mindset has been flipped upside down and I'm ready to get shit done.
Enjoy the update everyone!
Wixx
DB Bench Press
1x15@50lbs
1x12@55lbs
1x12@60lbs
1x10@65lbs
1x8@75lbs
70° Incline DB Press (Drop Angle Down Each Set
1X10@55lbs
1x10@60lbs
1x8@65lbs
1x6@70lbs
Pec Dec Machine
1x12@210lbs
1x10@215lbs
1x10@220lbs
1x30@105lbs
DB Isolation Movement
1x15@25lbs
1x15@30lbs
1x15@35lbs
Close Grip Bench Press 3x12,
1x12@185lbs
1x10@190lbs
1x8@195lbs
1x15@145lbs
V-Grip Pressdown
1X20@65lbs
1x15@70lbs
1x12@75lbs
1x10@80lbs
2x5@100lbs
Tricep Extension Machine
3x15@235lbs
Rope Push-Down
1X20@40lbs
1x15@35lbs
1x12@30lbs
1x25@25lbs
Seated DB Lateral Raise
1x15@25lbs
1x12@30lbs
1x10@35lbs
Seated DB Side Lateral Raises
1X15@20lbs
3X10@25lbs
1x8@30lbs
AB Torsion Rotation Machine
1x100 ( left side)
1x100( right side )
Cardio
Incline 5.5
Speed 3.0
Miles 1.75
Calories burned 240
Duration 35 minutes.
Stoked to see this!!Monday February 12 2024
it has begun....
Starting weight is 216lbs for clarification on that.
I will be continuing the Frank Zane program as i absolutely love it. I go all out 3 days a week hit all my body parts while tossing in some extra isolation movements, i also will keep cardio at 4-5 days a week 45 minutes up into 1hour depending on the time I have.
As all of you can tell by the photo and loaded barrel it is go time!
Today was my first official injection for my Para Pharma 16 week cycle and I am beyond ready and excited for this next step in my bodybuilding journey.
I was a little nervous going into the first Injections which is typical for me and I think normal when taking it into the next level as far as cycle and compounds go.
I must admit I didn't know what to think or how my body would react with higher concentration levels of gear, I was very pleased and surprised at how smooth it went today. I didn't know what to expect after I pressed that plunger down I was like well damn this isn't bad at all, very smooth.
The oil is definitely more viscous this time around that is expected the test alone is 400mg/ml and the primo is 200mg/ml.
I am choosing to start with no AI for the first 4 weeks at the end of those 4 weeks I will be running bloodwork to see all my numbers and especially estrogen, if AI is needed for deployment I have plenty aromasin on hand that I will put into play on a as needed basis, and the dose will be no more than 12mg a week to start. I don't want to crush my estrogen bad news if that happens.
Currently with trt no AI at 150mg a week of test cyp estrogen is at 29 so I don't see me having issues running test at 300-350 a week no AI since primo is at play and from past experience with primo I didn't need an AI at all on cycle.
Also will probably donate blood soon just to keep on the up and up and be safe while running the EQ just something i feel strongly about doing, i feel it is the right call.
I chose the ventro glute as my body takes injections into that area with ease. Been about 1 hour or so since injection took place. I can say with confidence the pip so far is mild at best, I can feel something in my muscle and very very mild soreness. The real test will be 24hrs from now to see what the true pip is looking like.
I use a 25g 1in syringe for injection once loaded into the barrel i like to spin the syringe for 30 seconds back and forth to warm the liquid up in the barrel before i inject it. I believe it can help alleviate the amount of possible pip.
Injections are spilt into M/W/F less oil more spread out = less pip and muscle irritation in my own experience anyway.
I will admit the injection process is alot slower due to the thickness and concentration of the oils, I actually like that, the number one reason is it forces me to injection alot slower and for longer, it helps because I won't flood the muscle with alot of oil quickly, in my mind the slower the injection the more time the oil has to move throughout the muscle and less pip along the way.
the quality is absolutely top notch which is expected when supplied by @ugfreak
This Para Pharma gear is
I often quote it as the para pharma difference as I truly believe Para Pharma gear is next level and will be instrumental in helping me achieve the vison I have long term. It is no secret how much I love PP gear and the results it gives me.
Time to knuckle up and do my part and hit a homerun on the diet, training and cardio for these 16 weeks and beyond.
Enjoy the update everyone!
Wixx
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So am I brother im 3 injections in first week almost in the books!
@Noah Wixx aggression is very normal on a cycle like this. Have you started doing more cardio?Thursday February 15 2024
Push day today it went extremely well, im feeling a little stronger in all my lifts and they are going up already which is a good feeling.
Aggression is at an all time high for me a few Injections in, not really sure why that is but it is 1000% through the roof lol.
It could possibly be that this is my first higher mg cycle i am attempting and the flood of androgens is just hitting me hard and maybe EQ brings out my aggression because I didn't experience it on this level in this way with just test and primo.
I'm running test 150mg higher than I ever have in the past which can also be a big contribution to the androgen intensity.
My Aggression isn't I'm looking for fights or starting fights or treating anyone poorly nothing like that at all, it's the kind of Aggression that 30-45 minutes after I inject I can feel it in my jaw, face and in my mind and I get this rush and wave of just aggression in my mind.
when i hit the weightes i murder them to the best of my ability and i can feel the rage benefitting my mindset and my physical ability to preform at a better level.
i am good at containing it internally and harnessing it in the gym only, once I leave that setting I cool that part of me way way down.
overall I feel good nothing negative to report about other than the pip being hot and heavy lol, still trying out different methods and injection sites to offset it along with icing the area etc.
I chose higher concentrations so that is on me for that choice and my mistake as my line of thinking was backwards on this so i own that on me 100% now we just let it ride and deal with it the best we can as long as I can workout and preform we are golden and G2G.
No pain no gain as they say
Side note para pharma is absolutely potent i don't care who agrees or who doesn't, I am speaking from my personal experience and the minute I went from trt into that para pharma gear man it hit me like fucking freight train I am 3 Injections deep so far and yeah I can tell after it is coursing through my veins because my mindset has been flipped upside down and I'm ready to get shit done.
Enjoy the update everyone!
Wixx
DB Bench Press
1x15@50lbs
1x12@55lbs
1x12@60lbs
1x10@65lbs
1x8@75lbs
70° Incline DB Press (Drop Angle Down Each Set
1X10@55lbs
1x10@60lbs
1x8@65lbs
1x6@70lbs
Pec Dec Machine
1x12@210lbs
1x10@215lbs
1x10@220lbs
1x30@105lbs
DB Isolation Movement
1x15@25lbs
1x15@30lbs
1x15@35lbs
Close Grip Bench Press 3x12,
1x12@185lbs
1x10@190lbs
1x8@195lbs
1x15@145lbs
V-Grip Pressdown
1X20@65lbs
1x15@70lbs
1x12@75lbs
1x10@80lbs
2x5@100lbs
Tricep Extension Machine
3x15@235lbs
Rope Push-Down
1X20@40lbs
1x15@35lbs
1x12@30lbs
1x25@25lbs
Seated DB Lateral Raise
1x15@25lbs
1x12@30lbs
1x10@35lbs
Seated DB Side Lateral Raises
1X15@20lbs
3X10@25lbs
1x8@30lbs
AB Torsion Rotation Machine
1x100 ( left side)
1x100( right side )
Cardio
Incline 5.5
Speed 3.0
Miles 1.75
Calories burned 240
Duration 35 minutes.
I know the aggression you're talking about but you're a nice guy so you won't beat people up
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