Approved Log 5 year blast and cruise - PCT attempt for fertility Log

[Csjcbson]

Last time I went off gear was 5 years ago to have a kid. Been running blasting and cruising for 10 years. I will keep you posted about dosage changes and eventual bloodwork; possibly fertility updates if that is of any interest.

7 days off gear.
50 mg enclomiphene daily
40 mg Nolvadex daily
1000 IU HCG every other day

Unrelated supps, 8 IU HGH daily small dose Humalog pre and post workout.

Currently 6’3” 244 lbs, coming off a previous prep so still fairly lean.

 

[LevButlerov]

Last time I went off gear was 5 years ago to have a kid. Been running blasting and cruising for 10 years. I will keep you posted about dosage changes and eventual bloodwork; possibly fertility updates if that is of any interest.

7 days off gear.
50 mg enclomiphene daily
40 mg Nolvadex daily
1000 IU HCG every other day

Unrelated supps, 8 IU HGH daily small dose Humalog pre and post workout.

Currently 6’3” 244 lbs, coming off a previous prep so still fairly lean.

@Csjcbson this is going to be VERY interesting
I followed your other thread
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/gh-dosing-question.99585

I think a guy your level knows that DIET and Training is key to recovery.
We are talking, high omega 3, high fiber, higher saturated fat (testosterone building), along with natural testosterone boosters.

It would be great to see
Diet Training
diet, as you go share your meals and foods and when you eat them
training, share your training sets and exercises and weights if you can (see how strong/weak you getting)
please share this

pics
seen your impressive pic
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/gh-dosing-question.99585/post-1545744
For those who havent seen, @Csjcbson looks amazing, great body, tight mass, lean and impressive as a bodybuilder, true stage physique
you look amazing in 1 word

but as you go in this recovery, please share weekly pics so we can see how soft/hard strong etc you're getting

supplements and PCT gear

• tamoxifen, you would need a higher kick at around 60mgs for 3 weeks before pyramiding down to 40mgs for 3 weeks and 20mgs for 3 weeks
• enclomiphene, you'll need to switch from 50mgs to 25mgs as you go
• HCG, 1000 IUs eod is too much, HCG Is highly estrogenic, you should use 1000 IUs EOD for 2 weeks ONLY, followed by 500 IUs EOD
• natural test booster, I suggest HCGenerate (former n2generate) , they are proven for recovery in steroid cycles, and they support the EVO family, kick start with 5 caps ed for 4 weeks, and 3 caps per day for the following 6 weeks
  • https://www.hcgenerate.com
  • https://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/store/Test-boosting-PCT-c37?product_id=82

HGH and insulin use
Humalog might hinder recovery at higher doses due to insulin spike, what level are you at IUs?
HGH, you can stay at 8IUs but how long you've been on this dose?


Overall hot log bro I'm happy you share and I want to more info from you and more sharing as you go

for new guys reading, this is how awesome @Csjcbson looks

 

[Csjcbson]

Last time I went off gear was 5 years ago to have a kid. Been running blasting and cruising for 10 years. I will keep you posted about dosage changes and eventual bloodwork; possibly fertility updates if that is of any interest.

7 days off gear.
50 mg enclomiphene daily
40 mg Nolvadex daily
1000 IU HCG every other day

Unrelated supps, 8 IU HGH daily small dose Humalog pre and post workout.

Currently 6’3” 244 lbs, coming off a previous prep so still fairly lean.

DIET & TRAINING
I’m currently running these macros for now. My food selections are far more varied than during prep or even bulking. Trying to take a mental break from the rigidity of competing.
Carbs: 500 g
Protein: 300 g
Fat: 72 g
Again, I’m not as religious about hitting these numbers as I usually am. So there are some higher fat days or carb days here and there. I can generally adjust my food on the fly to regulate my weight. These macros seem to keep my weight steady so far.

My current training program hasn’t changed since ending the cycle yet. The volume will go down slightly over the next month or two depending on how I recover.
I’ll attach a PDF.

SUPPS
I take a lot of supps daily
- COq10
- Krill Oil
- Citrus Bergamot
- NAC
- Probiotic
- Lysine
- Vit A
- Vit d & K2
- Multivitamin
- Niacin
- Collagen type 1,2 & 3
- Biotin
- DHEA
Rx
- injectable Glutathione (400 mg x 3)
- Zetia 10 mg
- Nordatropin 8 IU daily (will drop to 5 IU in a few weeks)
- Humalog (3-5 IU with high carb meals, 5-8 IU intraworkout with 60 grams Cyclic Dextrin/20 grams Dextrose/10 g EAA’s, 5 IU post workout with cereal meal)

 

[stevesmi]

That’s a long time to be on. This will be a challenging recovery for you, but it’s very interesting to follow it.

 

[LevButlerov]

DIET & TRAINING
I’m currently running these macros for now. My food selections are far more varied than during prep or even bulking. Trying to take a mental break from the rigidity of competing.
Carbs: 500 g
Protein: 300 g
Fat: 72 g
Again, I’m not as religious about hitting these numbers as I usually am. So there are some higher fat days or carb days here and there. I can generally adjust my food on the fly to regulate my weight. These macros seem to keep my weight steady so far.

My current training program hasn’t changed since ending the cycle yet. The volume will go down slightly over the next month or two depending on how I recover.
I’ll attach a PDF.

SUPPS
I take a lot of supps daily
- COq10
- Krill Oil
- Citrus Bergamot
- NAC
- Probiotic
- Lysine
- Vit A
- Vit d & K2
- Multivitamin
- Niacin
- Collagen type 1,2 & 3
- Biotin
- DHEA
Rx
- injectable Glutathione (400 mg x 3)
- Zetia 10 mg
- Nordatropin 8 IU daily (will drop to 5 IU in a few weeks)
- Humalog (3-5 IU with high carb meals, 5-8 IU intraworkout with 60 grams Cyclic Dextrin/20 grams Dextrose/10 g EAA’s, 5 IU post workout with cereal meal)

@Csjcbson to start off you need to drop the zetia, any cholesterol lowering is not good, you need cholesterol to boost testosterone naturally (lipids up)

hgh drop to 4-5 IUs thats fine, but insulin you need to drop to 1-2 IUs max during the next 8 weeks, all post workout with shake for maximum anabolism and recomp

diet, high carbs and low fat good for bodybuilding at your size but not good if you want to recover fertility
think high omega 3 fats you need those to recover, you should have around 150-200 grams of fat and lower carbs to around 300 and protein stays at 300

training i would suggest cutting volume a bit and doing a lot of bigger lifts, bench, squat, deadlift to boost natty test, not heavy but enough to be at 30-50% max

 

[Mobster]

Still not as fan of B&C

 

[zedhed]

love you started this log I remember you well
you are a beast

 

[caligirl85]

this will be a nice little experiment let's see what happens
you definitely have a hell of a physique

 

[Shrine]

the only thing i don't agree with is hcg
i would switch to another serm instead

 

[Zyglamail]

hcg for pct isn't a good idea, it will keep you suppressed longer and spike estrogen 2 things we don't want
use hcgenerate instead

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

APPROVED LOG

 

[Arabian]

gonna be a tough road to recovery
but I'm glad you're putting this up

 

[BookerTNY]

it can't hurt to give this a shot
just be open to consider going on trt

 

[RoidRage69]

I would just go on 150-250mg of TRT if I were you. Since you already are a competitive bodybuilder u should just consider this.

 

[average918]

You definitely have an amazing physique bro, will be following along on this log and look forward to seeing what you can achieve, won’t be easy bro but we believe in you

 

[Csjcbson]

I would just go on 150-250mg of TRT if I were you. Since you already are a competitive bodybuilder u should just consider this.

I normally do, but this is about fertility rather than trying to recover natural function.

 

[ballin2504]

I’ll be following. Can’t wait to see how this plays out.

 

[LevButlerov]

I normally do, but this is about fertility rather than trying to recover natural function.

@Csjcbson any updates on this recovery? what doses you take today?
and whats your training update?

 

[Csjcbson]

@Csjcbson any updates on this recovery? what doses you take today?
and whats your training update?

Doses remain the same every day:
50 mg enclomiphene
40 mg Nolva
Doctor pushed my HCG up to 2000 eod
(Focus is on fertility)

 

[LevButlerov]

Doses remain the same every day:
50 mg enclomiphene
40 mg Nolva
Doctor pushed my HCG up to 2000 eod
(Focus is on fertility)

training? hows that today and diet? meals?

@Csjcbson