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Glad to see you getting the blood work. That is the best way to stay on top of everything during a cycle.
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thanks man! okay will do.Bio premed? big respect for you.
You don’t fail to surprise me, you look amazing and are super smart. @ethan.driver
The log wouldn’t be time consuming, you have half the info here you wrote can copy, and add the training food. Probably 15min max total to start. Easy on time imo
well to be completely honest I have been blasting and cruising for about a year now. Blasting 600mg test for about 12 weeks and then cruising on 200mg test. I blasted twice and I just started my third one and this time around I added these compounds because I wanted to achieve a dryer, leaner physique. I’m saying the 20 weeks because supposedly Equipoise is only good for a long cycle because it’s such a long ester compound. So i don’t even know what recovery would look like for me at this point. Would regular PCT not get me back up and running in a few weeks?
You can judge based on my photos but I am guessing around 12%
Even with equipoise?
alright everyone, here’s my log https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-testosterone-masteron-equipoise-cycle-log.103188/@ethan.driver welcome back to the EVO family broi saw that back and forth you had with @osgear and i heard its resolved so happy to hear
on the cycle thoughts bro
to be honest if something gives you anxiety bro id stay away from it but you can moderate the dose too so if 200mgs working for you thats cool
i would drop the testosterone to 500mgs and masteron to 300mgs and eq to 200mgs as you're doing
around the 500mgs test mark is a max receptor clearance generally but im not sure for you
you see bro the issue here is we dont know much about you, fair point right? @ethan.driver like if you're 320lbs IFBB pro vs 140lbs guy jacking the gym different right
to really honestly give you advice we would need you to share more with us, makes sense right?
how do you share? well it would be like 15min of your time and you post a NEW thread with your cycle log journal, share you stats, diet , training , history, cardio and sleep and supps and we guide you as a big EVO family into more results and mods on the cycle as well as you go
easy to do and you get the whole community backing you
HOW TO START a LOG? easy
To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
We have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
Please post a Log Journal asap for us
Please click the anabolic forum
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click that
in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My testosterone masteron equipoise cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle
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@ethan.driver Bro starting up a log would be a great idea.......
I did……
Look directly above your comment
Approved your log check please
test dosing should never go above 500 imo. I have found 300 to be the sweet spot.
@ReturnOfTheMeathead he has a log up you can comment there
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-testosterone-masteron-equipoise-cycle-log.103188/
Good luck with the schooling.
The largest most comprehensive study on endogenous testosterone tested the muscle mass gained in men with different dosages from 25mg up to 600mg a week. The difference between 300mg and 600mg was substantial. There is a diminishing return, as all anabolic steroids have, but it was still much higher between 600mg and 300mg. I will post a graph of results from that study below:
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a 2.5kg increase in muscle mass was observed between the 300mg and 600mg group. Another interesting fact from this study is the lowest dose of testosterone administered actually lowered the amount of muscle mass gained compared to that of a natural man. This is because even though extra testosterone was being injected into the body on top of what was already being naturally produced, it still eventually shut off the mens’ natural production of testosterone, and the dosage administered gave lower levels than a man would create naturally, creating less testosterone in the body overall, leading to a loss of muscle mass compared to the natty control group.
I don't disagree if you're talking about being on 100 mgs vs natty but I think 300 puts you at a substantial advantage as opposed to being natural just in terms of recovery alone. and I have to go at peoples word but dorian Yates claims pre-comp he was on 300 mgs test. of course 600 will yield higher gains but I think its not worth it in terms of risk/reward ratio. I've done as much as 750 and even 1000 and the e2 management became very difficult and the gains were not significant compared to 250-500 imo. you're free to do what you want here. I've done some pretty outrageous shit so don't think I'm above it lol.
Dorian Yates along with all the other old school pros are lying out their ass about everything they ever did. They’re all a bunch of Mike Ohearns. It’s like Tom Platz saying he would do 1000 rep squat sets with 135. Someone calculated that this would take close to an hour of nonstop squatting motion with zero breaks.
I have dropped my test to 300 before and I immediately dropped weight. I have never pushed past 600 so I want to see the results it will yield when I do. I have been stuck maxing out my body weight at 210 lbs ever since the middle of my first blast. I know a lot of this has to do with eating more, but I want to continue to lean bulk rather than get fat so I want to see if upping the test dose plus adding the mast and eq will push me over that hump into the 220 range. I never used AI even on 600 test and I had ZERO gyno and ZERO high E2 sides. When I added an AI my second blast, I felt like absolute shit so I stopped using it. I think I barely aromatize.
I strictly follow true science rather than bro science, and true science is saying more gains will occur at 600 and likely even more than that at over 600 (the study just never went past 600), not all this 500mg cap bs. And I check all my health markers consistently so I’ll know if I’m overdoing it. I am 21 years old so i’m not thinking much about risk vs reward at the moment and I do not plan on doing this long term whatsoever so I am okay pushing it a little right now.
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interesting bro can you cite this study? i'll go over it @ethan.driver
@ethan.driver actually genetics matter bro big time, some guys are meso gains some are skinny natty like you, some are fat natty so different and different approach for different guys
professional bodybuilders of the past, FACT lie like F bro
they always lie 99% of the time they lying about something
yea Ronnie Coleman used 0 steroids to become IFBB pro yea ok right, and i'm going to be a ballet dancer (look at my pic lol)
just some shit is BS and people buy it so i'm fully in agreement with you bro
i think what works for you at your age work for you bro and if you playing the game play it hard you already doing it
also just fyi would love to see meal pics bro some training pics
EVO family respect for you, want to follow your log more
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