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Advice on 8 wk cycle test e and anavar 20mg/day

cgardner

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Thank @ugloz last order arrived 3 days after payment 🙏. Ran test e 500mg weeks 1-10 and tren e 300mg weeks 1-8 with arimidex 1mg EO day. PCT weeks 1-3 50mg clomifene/tamoxifen 40mg/day and 4-5 25mg/20mg. My intention was to loss adipose and get ripped. Started at 193cm 116kg and carrying a bit a fat but in reasonable shape. I don’t have a log but involved 5 days each week of intense aerobic (either swimming 4-6 km a session/running 6-10km/ concept 2 ergo) with 2 days in the gym. Dropped ~ 6 kg. Massive change in tone. Swim and run performance huge improvement. Thanks AJ/ULG OZ thanks also @Seventieschild.
I want to run my next cycle for the same reason. Cut down so overall weight loss but retain lean mass. I’m thinking of running weeks 1-8 test e 600mg (300 twice week) and anavar 20mg/day with arimidex 1mg/day. Same PCT. Appreciate your thoughts.
Also, how long to wait from the end of PCT and next cycle.
Thanks
 
you definitely do not need to run that much test and your pct was not great at all.. did you have bloodwork done? what is your current body fat?
 
you definitely do not need to run that much test and your pct was not great at all.. did you have bloodwork done? what is your current body fat?
No blood work done yet still looking for a doctor who’s happy to do them.
you definitely do not need to run that much test and your pct was not great at all.. did you have bloodwork done? what is your current body fat?
no bloodwork - still trying to find a doc who's happy to order them privately. last cycle was my first. i used to be 98 kg with total skin folds ~47mm
 

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cut the test dose to say 300 imo. as for anavar, 20 mgs daily is fine but i wouldnt do that for longer than 6 weeks and i also would make sure to have liver support on hand even tho i know its viewed as a low hepatotoxic drug. n2guard.
 
So can pct be included in the period. Say I did an 8 week cycle then 4 weeks pct I’d start the next cycle in 12 or 16 weeks?
yes as long as your bloodwork shows you bounced back
check my signature for bloodwork info and what to look for
 
hey bro, at this point, i certainly would not be able to recommend steroid use given your current body fat.. now, you can definitely get to where you need to be but theres just things off here.. the body fat is certainly too high.. you have the right idea in wanting to lose weight but there in is the issue.. steroids are NOT used for weight loss on top of the fact that with a higher body fat, you are far more susceptible to side effects and issues... its HIGHLY advisable to NOT use them right now... beyond that, you never ran bloodwork, which is NOT good at all, especially with such an inadequate pct, so that in itself is another issue.. you should be doing pre, mid and post cycle bloodwork every cycle you run... so first step would be bloodwork... after that, the next step would be assess the plan to drop more body fat, getting down to the 12-13 range, 15 MINIMUM but 12-13 is far more ideal for steroid use.. that can be done with a disciplined and consistent diet and training regimen and you could consider the use of sarms and peptides but you have steps here to take before making further mistakes
 
Thanks for your detailed reply. I understand problems with body fat percentage, however my training regime currently almost exclusively aerobic - 4-6 km squad swimming 4 x week, run between 6-10km twice a week and 2 gym sessions. Last cycle I dropped 6-7kg and was able to train more intensely. How do I get bloods done regularly without having to tell my doc I’m taking PED?
 
Thank @ugloz last order arrived 3 days after payment 🙏. Ran test e 500mg weeks 1-10 and tren e 300mg weeks 1-8 with arimidex 1mg EO day. PCT weeks 1-3 50mg clomifene/tamoxifen 40mg/day and 4-5 25mg/20mg. My intention was to loss adipose and get ripped. Started at 193cm 116kg and carrying a bit a fat but in reasonable shape. I don’t have a log but involved 5 days each week of intense aerobic (either swimming 4-6 km a session/running 6-10km/ concept 2 ergo) with 2 days in the gym. Dropped ~ 6 kg. Massive change in tone. Swim and run performance huge improvement. Thanks AJ/ULG OZ thanks also @Seventieschild.
I want to run my next cycle for the same reason. Cut down so overall weight loss but retain lean mass. I’m thinking of running weeks 1-8 test e 600mg (300 twice week) and anavar 20mg/day with arimidex 1mg/day. Same PCT. Appreciate your thoughts.
Also, how long to wait from the end of PCT and next cycle.
Thanks
@cgardner i dont see an issue you should take test but 200mgsx2 so 400mgs testosterone with anavar 30mgs and aromidex .5mgs eod not ed

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