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Hey mate what is stenabolic? Not heard of itOn this note, I’m currently using the Stenabolic that tested a little low, and frankly it is still awesome, just seems to be such an awesome compound that the small under dose isn’t noticeable to me as the user, am still 100% happy with my purchase
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I am unfortunately very unqualified to answer this, however there is an awesome post about it over on UGL Talk that answers it better than I ever could.
https://evolutionary.org/index.php?threads/sr9009-stenabolic.177/
I’ve only used a small amount, but yeah this stuff really is “cardio in a bottle”, never experienced anything like it really.
Well I learnt that today, quite interesting I had no idea thats how HGH is formulated.gonna dive down the gh rabbit hole and study up a bit on this.great thread Aj.this is why I love the whole ped circle,I always learn something new,
It happens occasionally but the risk increases primarily when states run their postage blitzes. There's precautionary measures that we vendors will take to try to minimise the potential of seizure though, such as having different sending procedures for states that are known to to scrutinise incoming mail more heavily.
As for orders sizes, they will vary - on the smaller ones, you're generally getting guys which are just testing out the source and will buy a single vial to determine if the source and product is legitimate before making bigger commitments, but once you have established a rapport then it's common for orders to contain everything they need for their entire cycle (+PCT) in the one order. During sales, customers will take advantage of the reduced pricing during the sale period and will buy enough to cover them for their next few cycles so it's a pretty solid mix.
Many of us will likely have a subset of customers who resell our products and will purchase bulk at wholesale too - these can be quite significant in terms of order volume. I personally prefer retail but I do have an 'affiliate program' which allows people to resell / dropshop through our affiliate program:
https://evolutionary.org/affiliates/
That way they those interested in reselling can still earn commissions on the sales they generate but we handle all the logistics and customers can trust that the product is coming direct from the supplier/manufacturer.
AJ
Most will go with the shortest ester to determine their pin schedule. The Supertest 350 is made up of 250mg TE/100mg TP. 1mL EOD would be way too much though, that'd be over a gram of test per week, you could half that @ 0.5mL EOD (or reduce it further) and still see great results. More oil doesn't always equate to more gains - the only thing you're increasing is your susceptibility to unwanted sides. Less is more
AJ
Personally I stick to glutes and VGs but ultimately comes down to personal preference. You get the pin wrong on a delt injection and you'll have a dead arm for a day or twoThanks
Any objections to injecting into the Delts?
but no objections, it's an easy spot to reach it just can't take a ton of oil.AJ
Appreciate the insight mate thank you
How do you envisage the market changing over the next 5-10 years? Will it become harder to source/supply product? How long before the war on masculinity makes any testosterone level above 15 illegal?
I just wanted to ask a newbie question.
Do you know if suppliers will give different details for current wikr accounts as creating new ones are no longer possible. Cause I know this app is a common theme . Could you please let me know if possible of any changes, Thanks for ya help
Do you know if suppliers will give different details for current wikr accounts as creating new ones are no longer possible. Cause I know this app is a common theme . Could you please let me know if possible of any changes, Thanks for ya help
Most don't use Wickr anymore,you have to go with the encrypted app they use or the order side they have.
I think the war has already started and we're part of the rebellion
It's always a challenge sourcing raws/products but as the landscape changes so do the methods used in acquiring them. We're constanty adapting where ever possible.
Possibly bro. I've heard mixed reviews on the oral alternative but if there's a demand for them I'd be happy to look into it.
With Wickr shutting down new registrations, most have switched to Session or Threema. No doubt vendors have their own ways of communicating these changes to their customers though (ie: mass messaging / posting from verified accounts on forums / etc).
AJ
I've had some questions asked that I thought would be good for this AMA, particularly around sterilisation.
And please note that while we (and many other of the reputable labs here on Evo) do take all of these extensive measures and precautions, just know that we are still human. Anything kind of labour that requires a human or manual intervention is subject to unforeseen circumstances. We're human, not robots. So while we do this everyday and 99.999% of the time we're getting the result we've worked so hard to achieve, there's still that 0.0001% chance that something may happen - whether it be a small foreign artefact falling into a via but we do every humanly possible thing we can to avoid this from happening.
We do have QA processes in place to avoid this ever making its way to a customer, but just remember that that single condition does not mean the operating environment is unsanitary, it just means exactly that: we're human - no one is immune to issues, we're all trying our best to deliver the absolute best to you guys. Unless you're a dodgy lab intentionally cutting corners, then this will be almost immediately come to light in their finished product - then its open season on those suckers
Hope you've found this informational. Happy to answer any more questions.
AJ
- Vials:
Vials come in sealed trays however they are not sterilised from factory. They are removed from their packaging and boiled to remove any contaminants, they're then added to an iso-prop'd tray and are baked in the the oven until dry at 100c. We also have an autoclave and will use its drying function (100c+) in conjunction with the oven when doing larger batches - the autoclave is quite small though so its only a supplement to the oven. We also sterilise as vials are needed so vials aren't sitting around collecting dust. - Rubber stoppers:
These are boiled too but we also prepare an iso-prop bath prior to applying them to a vial. Also worth nothing that we use a sturdier double prong stopper which can be pierced multiple times without worrying about pieces of rubber falling into your vial. Although it can happen on occasion, it's rarer. - Beakers and media bottles (+lids):
These are scrubbed using hospital grade detergents, thoroughly washed, then baked in the oven to dry before being sealed again so they're ready for their next use. This is done immediately after each cook - nothing ever sits around dirty. - Oil Filtration:
We use a supor hydrophilicpolyethersulfone filter membrane which first goes through a 0.8µm pre-filter and then again through a 0.2 µm filter. This takes filtering a lot longer however it guarantees that the end product achieves sterile filtration. We use motorised vacuum pumps to pump out of the cooking beaker, through the filtration membranes, and finally into the sterilised media bottles. - Moving the oils from media bottle into the vials:
We use bottle top dispensers which are disassembled and fully sterilised prior to each use - like these ones.
We've also started a trial of an automatic liquid dispensor with a foot operated pedal that fills vials - it attaches directly onto a media bottle screw-top and has an extendable telescope tube to draw out from the media bottle. It's a lot faster, but requires a lot more dismantling to flush out and clean. We also have a clear screen guard between the pumping apparatus and the operator. This avoid anything unwanted falling into the vials. Once vialed, they're rubber stopped and then immediately crimped almost like a production line (pump into vial -> stopper applied -> flip-lid set and crimped). We use an automatic machine operated crimper to ensure a solid and consistent seal every time. - PPE & Handling:
Hair nets and masks are worn. All sterilised items are handled using Nitrile powder-free NFPA 1999/UL certified disposable gloves which are sprayed with iso-prop upon application. We do not cross contaminate and will switch gloves between tasks in the cooking and vialling process.
And please note that while we (and many other of the reputable labs here on Evo) do take all of these extensive measures and precautions, just know that we are still human. Anything kind of labour that requires a human or manual intervention is subject to unforeseen circumstances. We're human, not robots. So while we do this everyday and 99.999% of the time we're getting the result we've worked so hard to achieve, there's still that 0.0001% chance that something may happen - whether it be a small foreign artefact falling into a via but we do every humanly possible thing we can to avoid this from happening.
We do have QA processes in place to avoid this ever making its way to a customer, but just remember that that single condition does not mean the operating environment is unsanitary, it just means exactly that: we're human - no one is immune to issues, we're all trying our best to deliver the absolute best to you guys. Unless you're a dodgy lab intentionally cutting corners, then this will be almost immediately come to light in their finished product - then its open season on those suckers
Hope you've found this informational. Happy to answer any more questions.
AJ
Anabolik_chikin
Newbie Brother
I've had some questions asked that I thought would be good for this AMA, particularly around sterilisation.
Some of these practices may be overkill and are costly to set up right, but we don't cut costs or corners especially when it comes to sterilisation. At the end of the day these are products that are going into your body and I wouldn't feel comfortable selling a product that I wouldn't feel confident in using myself.
- Vials:
Vials come in sealed trays however they are not sterilised from factory. They are removed from their packaging and boiled to remove any contaminants, they're then added to an iso-prop'd tray and are baked in the the oven until dry at 100c. We also have an autoclave and will use its drying function (100c+) in conjunction with the oven when doing larger batches - the autoclave is quite small though so its only a supplement to the oven. We also sterilise as vials are needed so vials aren't sitting around collecting dust.- Rubber stoppers:
These are boiled too but we also prepare an iso-prop bath prior to applying them to a vial. Also worth nothing that we use a sturdier double prong stopper which can be pierced multiple times without worrying about pieces of rubber falling into your vial. Although it can happen on occasion, it's rarer.- Beakers and media bottles (+lids):
These are scrubbed using hospital grade detergents, thoroughly washed, then baked in the oven to dry before being sealed again so they're ready for their next use. This is done immediately after each cook - nothing ever sits around dirty.- Oil Filtration:
We use a supor hydrophilicpolyethersulfone filter membrane which first goes through a 0.8µm pre-filter and then again through a 0.2 µm filter. This takes filtering a lot longer however it guarantees that the end product achieves sterile filtration. We use motorised vacuum pumps to pump out of the cooking beaker, through the filtration membranes, and finally into the sterilised media bottles.- Moving the oils from media bottle into the vials:
We use bottle top dispensers which are disassembled and fully sterilised prior to each use - like these ones.
We've also started a trial of an automatic liquid dispensor with a foot operated pedal that fills vials - it attaches directly onto a media bottle screw-top and has an extendable telescope tube to draw out from the media bottle. It's a lot faster, but requires a lot more dismantling to flush out and clean. We also have a clear screen guard between the pumping apparatus and the operator. This avoid anything unwanted falling into the vials. Once vialed, they're rubber stopped and then immediately crimped almost like a production line (pump into vial -> stopper applied -> flip-lid set and crimped). We use an automatic machine operated crimper to ensure a solid and consistent seal every time.- PPE & Handling:
Hair nets and masks are worn. All sterilised items are handled using Nitrile powder-free NFPA 1999/UL certified disposable gloves which are sprayed with iso-prop upon application. We do not cross contaminate and will switch gloves between tasks in the cooking and vialling process.
And please note that while we (and many other of the reputable labs here on Evo) do take all of these extensive measures and precautions, just know that we are still human. Anything kind of labour that requires a human or manual intervention is subject to unforeseen circumstances. We're human, not robots. So while we do this everyday and 99.999% of the time we're getting the result we've worked so hard to achieve, there's still that 0.0001% chance that something may happen - whether it be a small foreign artefact falling into a via but we do every humanly possible thing we can to avoid this from happening.
We do have QA processes in place to avoid this ever making its way to a customer, but just remember that that single condition does not mean the operating environment is unsanitary, it just means exactly that: we're human - no one is immune to issues, we're all trying our best to deliver the absolute best to you guys. Unless you're a dodgy lab intentionally cutting corners, then this will be almost immediately come to light in their finished product - then its open season on those suckers
Hope you've found this informational. Happy to answer any more questions.
AJ
If you have a look at the supermarkets there are often dozens of recalls on at any one particular time all from HACCP certified factories. even big pharma has recalls.
Even if it’s not a human error, unfortunately nothing is perfect 100% of the time.
Appreciate the insight, there’s so much that goes into our little oily muscle drinks from sourcing down to end product
Hey mate just wanting to know what tren hex is? Ive used tren e and tren ace but never seen hex before just wanted to know a bit about it and the difference. Like what half life and frequency of jabs etc
Hey brother,
@Juice_monkey91 has actually written up an excellent article about it over on the UGL Talk forums which will give you a good overview of how Tren Hex compares to Tren E and Ace. You can check it out here:
https://evolutionary.org/index.php?threads/tren-hex-parabolan.175/
AJ
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