Best substitute for masteron?

[bonacris]

Mast doesn't agree with my skin. Itchy scalp, dandruff, bad acne. Some people love it but its not for me, Winstrol has the same effect only with horrible joints to go with all the other sides. Currently 5 weeks out from a comp so I'm dropping mast now before it makes thing even worse.


What's the best alternative to get that hard granite look. High proviron and halo is what I'm thinking?

 

[jp4355]

That would be my thinking.
Pharma-Grade Proviron @ 100 to 150 Mg a Day + the Halo.
If it's good Halo, you won't need that much, and make sure that you're On-Point with your Liver Supps while on Halo........................... JP

 

[stevesmi]

when DHT goes up in the body you will definitely open yourself up to skin issues.

sounds like you should avoid DHT's if you don't want those sides.

 

[MikeSnow]

Even proviron at 100mg won't come close to what masteron can do.. Halo is great precontest I'd say last 2 weeks. Primo is amazing going into contest IMO but 5 weeks out I take it you don't have it / won't reap the benefits anyway, although it doesn't dry you out like mast/winny it's still amazing. You certainly could look into Tbol as well my man, there is also nothing run with 80-100 mg of VAR pre contest, won't make you nearly as grainy as winny but high dose VAR is just an alternative

 

[bonacris]

I have var and proviron but not nearly enough. I'll have to get more as well as halo the let 2 weeks. Hopefully it'll be enough to get me close to why mast does for some people. Primo I will definitely be using in my next cycle

 

[androdiesel89]

I've heard of acne issues with aas (fairly common) but the dry skin issues??? Honestly, yeah leave out the masteron for the rest of your prep, but I would also consult a dermatologist as that sounds interesting to say the least. That aside, proviron or anavar, definitely save the Halo monster for the last week or two. Good luck with the rest of your prep dude, and don't dicount the diet and water manipulation when it comes to conditioning and hardness/dryness.

 

[RickRock]

It really doesn't leave a lot of options for you, but Proviron and Anavar is about the only AAS alternative to Masteron and Winstrol. High dosed S4 gets me pretty hard and vascular, but still not nearly as much as Masteron and Winstrol does. It does do much better than Proviron in that regard from my experience, but I've also never been over 50mg per day on Proviron. Just throwing other options out there to you

 

[gainscity]

Defintely do halo, that'll get you grainy and hard as a rock

 

[bonacris]

This is where I am at the moment. Currently 5 weeks out so I think I can get still get hard it'll just be more difficult without mast


I'll probably go the var, proviron and halo last 2weeks.. Looking forward to coming of cycle and give the body a break to be honest

 

[gainscity]

This is where I am at the moment. Currently 5 weeks out so I think I can get still get hard it'll just be more difficult without mast


I'll probably go the var, proviron and halo last 2weeks.. Looking forward to coming of cycle and give the body a break to be honest

yeah mast is on a different level with cosmetic effects. Not doing any tren? Just var, proviron, and halo? I'd make sure some test is in there maybe test p @ 350mg weekly to maintain fullness and cut test 3-4 days out. I went flat as a pancake last show when I cut test so early. I would say you could do anadrol if there's no test in but that's a lot of orals lol and you're looking good bro!

 

[bonacris]

yeah mast is on a different level with cosmetic effects. Not doing any tren? Just var, proviron, and halo? I'd make sure some test is in there maybe test p @ 350mg weekly to maintain fullness and cut test 3-4 days out. I went flat as a pancake last show when I cut test so early. I would say you could do anadrol if there's no test in but that's a lot of orals lol and you're looking good bro!

On prop and tren. Only switched to prop Monday and lower dose to 350 a week way down from 750of test enanthate. On no orals at all at the minute. So all I am on is 350prop and 700tren ace. Tren treats me well if I give her carbs and water.

 

[gainscity]

On prop and tren. Only switched to prop Monday and lower dose to 350 a week way down from 750of test enanthate. On no orals at all at the minute. So all I am on is 350prop and 700tren ace. Tren treats me well if I give her carbs and water.

Tren is amazing, you can eat more and get leaner . But good, I was wondering "wtf no tren?"

 

[bonacris]

Tren is amazing, you can eat more and get leaner . But good, I was wondering "wtf no tren?"

I've run tren for 6-8 weeks before and saw good results but I'm on week 9now and its getting better and better

 

[gainscity]

I've run tren for 6-8 weeks before and saw good results but I'm on week 9now and its getting better and better

yeah I've been running it since 8 weeks out and I'm gonna run it for probably 4 more weeks post contest and take advantage of my anabolic rebound and grow lean

 

[bonacris]

yeah I've been running it since 8 weeks out and I'm gonna run it for probably 4 more weeks post contest and take advantage of my anabolic rebound and grow lean

I can't wait to come off for a while.. But more excited to try primo in the future

 

[gainscity]

I can't wait to come off for a while.. But more excited to try primo in the future

what about primo interests you out of curiosity?

 

[bonacris]

what about primo interests you out of curiosity?

The way people say it makes them feel, the quality of the gains. Kind of like tren it gives a certain look to people but its mild and low on sides.

I'll run it with NPP and test and just feel great, no orals or tren

 

[gainscity]

The way people say it makes them feel, the quality of the gains. Kind of like tren it gives a certain look to people but its mild and low on sides.

I'll run it with NPP and test and just feel great, no orals or tren

I've always been unsure about it and prefer to save $, weak steroid on paper for a high cost.

 

[bonacris]

I've always been unsure about it and prefer to save $, weak steroid on paper for a high cost.

I've been making my own gear as of late so I only have to pay for primo so money isn't an issue here. I don't trust most places primo but I'll pay a bit more for pharma if it gives me a nice polished look

 

[gearhead]

I've been making my own gear as of late so I only have to pay for primo so money isn't an issue here. I don't trust most places primo but I'll pay a bit more for pharma if it gives me a nice polished look

bro im with you...99% of the UG labs out there giving fake ass primo to our bros...shame...