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Blood work - E2/Test and Anavar eligibility

UncleJack

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Hey all, hoping to seek the collective wisdom of any and all
Just received my blood work and found my estrogen to be what vigorous Steve may call sky high ? 122pg/ml
I have seen the 'optimal' range to be anywhere between 40pg/ml (140pmol/L) to 80pg/ml (290pmol/L) but then to also consider the ratio of E2 to total test.
I've attached all related blood work that may be of use
About me: currently in week 9 / 16-20 of my (first ever cycle) test E cycle, started at 350mg and over time found it to be quite underwhelming (I know this may seem brash and idiotic) and titrated up to approx 500-600mg per week.
Taking telmisartan 40mg both prophylactically and to help reduce my systolic (sits around 130-140). Other supps, fish oil, vit D if sun exposure is low and premium supps warrior when training.

Unsure if required in this kind of post but also training 4 days (upper/lower split), with two main cardio days (one HIIT and one long hard run)

So with all of this, does this warrant the use of an AI like exemestane, as I think/feel that I am not experiencing many high E2 sides, other than moderately high blood pressure and some very slight acne.

And while we're here, a slight detour, would these bloods favour the use of 20mg of Anavar for 4 weeks toward the end of the planned 16-20 weeks or should I not be a dickhead and stick the course of my first cycle?

I greatly appreciate any help and support in a post probably seen time and time again and apologise if ive forgotten to include any other important information.
 

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Hey all, hoping to seek the collective wisdom of any and all
Just received my blood work and found my estrogen to be what vigorous Steve may call sky high ? 122pg/ml
I have seen the 'optimal' range to be anywhere between 40pg/ml (140pmol/L) to 80pg/ml (290pmol/L) but then to also consider the ratio of E2 to total test.
I've attached all related blood work that may be of use
About me: currently in week 9 / 16-20 of my (first ever cycle) test E cycle, started at 350mg and over time found it to be quite underwhelming (I know this may seem brash and idiotic) and titrated up to approx 500-600mg per week.
Taking telmisartan 40mg both prophylactically and to help reduce my systolic (sits around 130-140). Other supps, fish oil, vit D if sun exposure is low and premium supps warrior when training.

Unsure if required in this kind of post but also training 4 days (upper/lower split), with two main cardio days (one HIIT and one long hard run)

So with all of this, does this warrant the use of an AI like exemestane, as I think/feel that I am not experiencing many high E2 sides, other than moderately high blood pressure and some very slight acne.

And while we're here, a slight detour, would these bloods favour the use of 20mg of Anavar for 4 weeks toward the end of the planned 16-20 weeks or should I not be a dickhead and stick the course of my first cycle?

I greatly appreciate any help and support in a post probably seen time and time again and apologise if ive forgotten to include any other important information.
Edit: forgot to mention dosing frequency is 3 days/week (ironically to control estrogen sides)
 
Hey all, hoping to seek the collective wisdom of any and all
Just received my blood work and found my estrogen to be what vigorous Steve may call sky high ? 122pg/ml
I have seen the 'optimal' range to be anywhere between 40pg/ml (140pmol/L) to 80pg/ml (290pmol/L) but then to also consider the ratio of E2 to total test.
I've attached all related blood work that may be of use
About me: currently in week 9 / 16-20 of my (first ever cycle) test E cycle, started at 350mg and over time found it to be quite underwhelming (I know this may seem brash and idiotic) and titrated up to approx 500-600mg per week.
Taking telmisartan 40mg both prophylactically and to help reduce my systolic (sits around 130-140). Other supps, fish oil, vit D if sun exposure is low and premium supps warrior when training.

Unsure if required in this kind of post but also training 4 days (upper/lower split), with two main cardio days (one HIIT and one long hard run)

So with all of this, does this warrant the use of an AI like exemestane, as I think/feel that I am not experiencing many high E2 sides, other than moderately high blood pressure and some very slight acne.

And while we're here, a slight detour, would these bloods favour the use of 20mg of Anavar for 4 weeks toward the end of the planned 16-20 weeks or should I not be a dickhead and stick the course of my first cycle?

I greatly appreciate any help and support in a post probably seen time and time again and apologise if ive forgotten to include any other important information.
@UncleJack welcome to the EVO family :D no one will think what you did is brash or idiotic, we are here to help you, not judge you.
Everyone has their own path and this is the one you chose, no matter what it is.

Overall thoughts
Your estrogen is high, and thats dangerous both mentally and physically.
I would say to start off, 500-600mgs testosterone the big question would be, how much AIs are you taking? SERMS?
There is more to estrogen and hormones than just ais/steroids, diet training sleep cardio and more play a role.

since you're on a cycle, can you share a LOG journal with the EVO familY? so we can properly give you an answer not just guess
HOW?
start a NEW thread with your LOG journal diary, add gear use, diet training cardio sleep and more and we can guide you from there.

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
We have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My testosterone cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

P.P.S. download our eBooks and learn more:
https://irongorillas.com
 
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@UncleJack welcome to the EVO family :D no one will think what you did is brash or idiotic, we are here to help you, not judge you.
Everyone has their own path and this is the one you chose, no matter what it is.

Overall thoughts
Your estrogen is high, and thats dangerous both mentally and physically.
I would say to start off, 500-600mgs testosterone the big question would be, how much AIs are you taking? SERMS?
There is more to estrogen and hormones than just ais/steroids, diet training sleep cardio and more play a role.

since you're on a cycle, can you share a LOG journal with the EVO familY? so we can properly give you an answer not just guess
HOW?
start a NEW thread with your LOG journal diary, add gear use, diet training cardio sleep and more and we can guide you from there.

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
We have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My testosterone cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

P.P.S. download our eBooks and learn more:
https://irongorillas.com
Hey Lev, thanks for the warm welcome!

So to be honest, I was really hoping to get away not needing an AI so as of right now, no AI is being used including a SERM.
However I will take your advice and start up a log!
 
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Hey Lev, thanks for the warm welcome!

So to be honest, I was really hoping to get away not needing an AI so as of right now, no AI is being used including a SERM.
However I will take your advice and start up a log!
Great lets start the log get it going and we can plan out your cycle mods from there @UncleJack
if you have questions and unsure about log, you can reach out to me :D
 
you should atleast keep an AI on hand. you don't want your estrogen to get out of control because then it's hard to manage
 
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