Approved Log Blood work review - Post First cycle - Crashed Testosterone Log

[2Thick]

get up a log
this way we can track your progress and we'll be able to help you make the right decisions

 

[e2]

LOG LOG LOG
we need you to get up a log journal. that is crucial

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

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[Ulter]

run a bad pct and get bad results
run a good pct and you will come back strong

LOG IT@!

 

[chesty]

where is your log journal?
very important to get that up and make sure that you are posting it and keeping us updated

 

[ROIDDERS]

make sure you adjust your cycle and pct as you go
that is one of the weaknesses a lot of people have they don't know how to adjust

 

[ceo]

bros and with adjusting comes putting up a log
this way we can get all your information up and you can follow exactly what we're saying

 

[Topps_Baseball88]

No need for trt young unless it's a real medical condition requiring you to take it

 

[ballin2504]

No need for trt young unless it's a real medical condition requiring you to take it

They will never take that as good advice lol

 

[gunelanie4987]

I agree.
I had a personal trainer over the past 2 years that was a little younger than me but has amazing genetics for gaining size. I was influenced by him to consider TRT but I feel like given that my genetics are not that great and I have no aspirations of competing I could save TRT for later in life when my levels begin to naturally decline.
The type of physique that I am aiming to achieve wouldn't require that much gear. I am mostly after a lean look with a decent amount of size. After years of trying to get huge I realize that I am not destined to become a classic physique competitor the way that my previous trainer is destined to become.

No need for trt young unless it's a real medical condition requiring you to take

 

[gunelanie4987]

don't hop on TRT
guys like me and mobster are both still cycling steroids and we are doing great.

had we hopped on trt at your age where would we be today? you think we would be further along ? not likely. at best a wash. so in the mean time we conserved our HPTA's

as i said above you haven't even given your body any opportunity to come back your only mistake was listening to a friend and running a shitty PCT. high doses of clomid and nolva without a test booster will likely make a person feel like shit. it's literally the way they work at blocking estrogen from feedbacking that makes you feel like crap.

fdf

@gunelanie4987 first its a good start you started this log, though i want to point out that in July 2023 you had a thread up and we asked you to do a log: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-masteron-cycle.90022/
you didnt do it and now you're in this mess, which isnt a surprise

lets start with day to day issues
diet, we need to know if you eating this daily aka EVERY day same or mods to this? seems like fruit in meal 4 as example what fruit? blueberries and how much or 10 oranges? details matter
on training, we need to see your exercises sets reps and weights, yes training IS important for recovery
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

now your lab tests
first they are horrible but we can fix it

@stevesmi made a good point on your issue with hcg here
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...e-crashed-testosterone-log.96758/post-1439304

Your new pCT should be this, and if you dont plan to do this right, expect TRT for LIFE
this pct is custom for you and not a joke, you need to dedicate yourself to 8 week PCT full

week 1-2
500 IUs of HCG mon/wed/fri
60mgs nolvadex ed
50mgs clomid ed (expect to be emotional)
20mgs cardarine gw ED (lower cortisol)
7caps n2guard ed (organ liver support for proper recovery)

week 3-4
40mgs nolvadex ed
25mgs clomid ed (expect to be emotional)
10mgs cardarine gw ED (lower cortisol)
5caps n2guard ed (organ liver support for proper recovery)
5 caps HCGenerate ed (test booster with fadogia base will recover your nuts)

week 5-6
20mgs nolvadex ed
12.5mgs clomid ed (expect to be emotional)
5mgs cardarine gw ED (lower cortisol)
3caps n2guard ed (organ liver support for proper recovery)
5 caps HCGenerate ed (test booster with fadogia base will recover your nuts)

week 7-8
10mgs nolvadex ed
5mgs cardarine gw ED (lower cortisol)
3caps n2guard ed (organ liver support for proper recovery)
5 caps HCGenerate ed (test booster with fadogia base will recover your nuts)

Thanks for writing this up for me I plan to follow this protocol. I am serious about recovering my natural test levels and I don't want to be on trt this early in my life. I have no aspirations of competing I just love the lifestyle.

In regards to N2guard do you know of a similar company/ product that I could purchase in Australia? For example, a company known as Bulk Nutrients has good products but I am unsure if any of their products would come close to the potency of N2guard.

Would you recommend ordering N2guard and starting the PCT protocol before it arrives in Australia? or should I seek out a substitute product that is sold by an Australian company that I could use for liver support?

https://www.bulknutrients.com.au/

 

[Ori]

Thanks, bro. I love chatting with people who share my passion for the gym and pharmacology. I will continue to think about what avenue I want to go down and create a detailed log when I commence PCT.

What are your thoughts on using MK677, cardarine and osterine as apart of my PCT? I am currently working around an injury I have tricep tendonitis in my right arm. I am using BPC 157 to recover the injury. I used antiinflammatories to bring down the inflammation in the area my recovery has been going well I am still able to push good weight on my push days. I was thinking MK677 would work well with BPC 157 to facilitate the healing of my elbow tendon.

what are your thoughts?

Bro my sincere apologies for the late reply I somehow missed your comment.

I think those are good choices for your injury except for the Ostarine, I’d drop that as you are already needing a PCT.

You could also add TB500 depending on budget. Is true that growth hormone secreting peptides and BPC-157 work well together, they are an awesome combination and one of my favourite stacks.

 

[LevButlerov]

fdf


Thanks for writing this up for me I plan to follow this protocol. I am serious about recovering my natural test levels and I don't want to be on trt this early in my life. I have no aspirations of competing I just love the lifestyle.

In regards to N2guard do you know of a similar company/ product that I could purchase in Australia? For example, a company known as Bulk Nutrients has good products but I am unsure if any of their products would come close to the potency of N2guard.

Would you recommend ordering N2guard and starting the PCT protocol before it arrives in Australia? or should I seek out a substitute product that is sold by an Australian company that I could use for liver support?

@gunelanie4987 you can get the 50 ingredients from n2guard sure but why? n2bm ships to Australia easy and fast, no need to do the guessing game
https://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/store/N2-GUARD-p75.html

are you going to start a log? we are waiting but no response

 

[25homes]

no no no to hcg bro real bad idea. Def get some hcgenerate and 3 more weeks pct clomid nolva

 

[gunelanie4987]

@gunelanie4987 you can get the 50 ingredients from n2guard sure but why? n2bm ships to Australia easy and fast, no need to do the guessing game
https://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/store/N2-GUARD-p75.html

are you going to start a log? we are waiting but no response

I am going to start a blog as soon as all my pct products arrive. I am still waiting for cardarine and Mk677 to arrive. I am serious about taking my physique to the next level and will be posting here a lot more frequently.

 

[gunelanie4987]

ugfreak.to has post cycle options for you
make sure you pick them up

I'm in Australia so I wouldn't be able to import products from UGfreak into Australia. Do you know of any good sources that ship gear/sarms to Aus?

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I am going to start a blog as soon as all my pct products arrive. I am still waiting for cardarine and Mk677 to arrive. I am serious about taking my physique to the next level and will be posting here a lot more frequently.

@gunelanie4987 you mean start your LOG , and you can start your LOG journal NOW in a new thread so we can prep your diet training dont wait

I'm in Australia so I wouldn't be able to import products from UGfreak into Australia. Do you know of any good sources that ship gear/sarms to Aus?

check this
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/aussie-approved-sources.146/

 

[gunelanie4987]

@gunelanie4987 you mean start your LOG , and you can start your LOG journal NOW in a new thread so we can prep your diet training dont wait


check this
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/aussie-approved-sources.146/

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/aussie-approved-sources.146

Thanks bro I appreciate your advice I’ll make my first post tomorrow.
I’m training push tomorrow. I’m currently working around Elbow tendinitis so not trying to progress currently just training to maintain size and stay lean while I recovery my natural test levels. I am using BPC to aid my elbows recovery.

I plan to experiment with osterine after I am recovered.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/aussie-approved-sources.146

Thanks bro I appreciate your advice I’ll make my first post tomorrow.
I’m training push tomorrow. I’m currently working around Elbow tendinitis so not trying to progress currently just training to maintain size and stay lean while I recovery my natural test levels. I am using BPC to aid my elbows recovery.

I plan to experiment with osterine after I am recovered.

@gunelanie4987 waiting on your log start with diet training
you ready?