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Bulking and then Cutting plan, with Dianabol, is Test Cypionate a good idea to stack?

speed101

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Hello,
Avi here, I am an intermidiate roider. I'm planning on Bulking and then Cutting. I have chosen Dianabol, but wanna know if Test Cypionate would be a good idea to stack it alongside Dbol also can I use the PCT at the end of my entire cycle ( Bulking and Cutting) or should I use it earlier. Please recommend the dosages for an intermidiate like me.

P.S. Will the water retention from Dbol go away once I start the cutting phase? ( I will use Stanozolol for cutting).

Waiting for your reply.

Regards
 
I personally wouldn't use d-bol to bulk as you will most likely lose all gains once coming off. If your goal is to gain bulk and keep it, while cutting I would do Test Cyp with maybe Deca or do a long cycle of eq. Or even Tren.

A previous cycle I did before was Test E(or cyp) at 750mgs/wk with EQ 600mgs/wk for 16 weeks. I added in winstrol in week 8 at 50mgs/day(kinda high and u can do like 25mgs/day).

The test made me grow pretty big fast then the eq slowly snuck up and made my gains solid, then the winstrol gave me the defined look I wanTed.

I personally would just take d-bol at the very beginning of a cycle purely to get my strength up so I can life heavy in the gym while the test is building up and doing its "magic".
 
And for PCT , you always take it after your done taking steriods. Obviously you want to run a good anti estrogen on cycle. But as for PCT your body is already producing nothing so wait till the end to start pct. HCG, then clomid and nolvadex.
 
Testosterone should be the base of every cycle you do. Making dramatic changes to your physique takes time. What I would recommend is a 10 week bulking cycle of testosterone with a dbol kick start. After the cycle, run a PCT and then do a cutting cycle of testosterone with winstrol.

The water retention from dbol will be kept extremely minimal if you use an AI (aromasin) with your cycle. This will keep estrogen in the low-normal range and prevent estrogen related side effects like water retention and gyno.

Here's what I recommend:

Bulking cycle
Weeks 1 - 10
testosterone 500mg/week
aromasin 12.5mg every other day

Weeks 1 - 6
dbol 30mg/day
N2guard 7 capsules/day

After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
Then take 10 weeks off and run a cutting cycle.

Cutting cycle
Weeks 1 - 10
testosterone 500mg/week
aromasin 12.5mg every other day

Weeks 1 - 6
winstrol 50mg/day
N2guard 7 capsules/day
 
Why not just to a clean bulking cycle, and not go around of first gaining a lot of unnecessary weight, and then sweating yourself out to lose it? For instance, you could use a cycle with testosterone, tbol, cardarine, ostarine, and andarine. This stack will provide you with solid gains, which will nevertheless be very clean. Therefore, you would not be stressing your body twice by first gaining a lot of weight, and then losing it.
 
Why not just to a clean bulking cycle, and not go around of first gaining a lot of unnecessary weight, and then sweating yourself out to lose it? For instance, you could use a cycle with testosterone, tbol, cardarine, ostarine, and andarine. This stack will provide you with solid gains, which will nevertheless be very clean. Therefore, you would not be stressing your body twice by first gaining a lot of weight, and then losing it.

Clean bulk is the best choice you can make for a cycle. Looks best, and doesnt strain your body that much
 
Testosterone should be the base of every cycle you do. Making dramatic changes to your physique takes time. What I would recommend is a 10 week bulking cycle of testosterone with a dbol kick start. After the cycle, run a PCT and then do a cutting cycle of testosterone with winstrol.

The water retention from dbol will be kept extremely minimal if you use an AI (aromasin) with your cycle. This will keep estrogen in the low-normal range and prevent estrogen related side effects like water retention and gyno.

Here's what I recommend:

Bulking cycle
Weeks 1 - 10
testosterone 500mg/week
aromasin 12.5mg every other day

Weeks 1 - 6
dbol 30mg/day
N2guard 7 capsules/day

After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
Then take 10 weeks off and run a cutting cycle.

Cutting cycle
Weeks 1 - 10
testosterone 500mg/week
aromasin 12.5mg every other day

Weeks 1 - 6
winstrol 50mg/day
N2guard 7 capsules/day

This would be the best way to run these compounds if you want to do a bulk then a cut. I agree with Lev however...why not just do a lean bulk and not add the extra fat? You can still even run the same compounds, just be careful of your diet and don't run such a high surplus. The water weight will go away yes.
 
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