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new here but isthere any bulking cycles where you can do oral only? I’ve seen mixed things about some people say you can run tbol or dbol only then I see some people that say not to run any cycle without test I’ve done test in the past but can’t really do it anymore I’m 31 years old 15percent body fat been training since I was 16 done 2 cycles in the past but that was about 5 years ago thanks for any info
i would look at a sarms bulking stack as opposed to running oral only.. you will have a very difficult time keeping anything you gain off oral only so what exactly would the point be? instant gratification to then be disappointed that it was for nothing...
here is a sarms bulking stack
for the best quality sarms check out https://umbrellalabs.is
1-12 Rad-140 (TESTOLONE) 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 lgd-4033 (ANABOLICUM) 10 mg per day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 (ANDARINE) 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 n2guard
Mini pct 13-16
Clomid 50/25/25/25 OR Nolva 40/20/20/20
Gw-501516 20 mg day
here is a sarms bulking stack
for the best quality sarms check out https://umbrellalabs.is
1-12 Rad-140 (TESTOLONE) 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 lgd-4033 (ANABOLICUM) 10 mg per day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 (ANDARINE) 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 n2guard
Mini pct 13-16
Clomid 50/25/25/25 OR Nolva 40/20/20/20
Gw-501516 20 mg day
Completely disagree. It makes little to no sense as a statement. If it had any truth whatsoever no one would ever do more than one oral cycle just to find this out.
Dylan had a specific bias, as we ALL do, regarding what he wants from any PEDs. You'll never see him do a bulking cycle as he prefers a lean aesthetic look (if he ever has it was a LONG time ago). I, on the other hand, could easily be argued as biased towards sheer size (bulk) but especially to strength. You'll never see me run high doses, 16 weeks (just that 1x) or a pro level stack as I'm biased (as much by the facts) towards low dose sensible protocols.
Here's the truth and one both Dylan HAS covered in his own podcasts as well as those Stevesmi and I have done on the Evo ones: so called 'wet' orals like Dbol will bloat many of us up. I added 10lbs on my 1st cycle which was a DBol cycle (30mg a day) and kept 5-6lbs. Var and TBol could be considered 'dry' and I've added 5lbs on a Var cycle but by that point I wasn't trying to keep any gains and so did NOT tweak my diet or training to keep the additional weight. But if I had wanted to I suspect I could have kept 3lbs or so from this oral only cycle.
But that's true of ANY AAS/PED. The bigger argument is ANY dry/lean gains regardless of oral, injectable or sarm based cycles are 'easier' to keep. I mean why would wanna keep bloat or water?
The sarms cycle Dylan suggests is on point (esp from Umbrella labs) and I could see 4-6lbs added by a typical user on cycle. As I've stated above - tweak the diet and training AFTER so as to keep what you gained - same as ANY cycle if that is the aim.
Just recently heard of Sarms do do they work similar to steroids so you don’t need a tear base with them
Did you have any side affects ruining oral only
Of course. But that's true of any PED cycle. Inc sarms. It's just that sarms are less anabolic so the sides are less too
No one needs a test base and esp so on a sarms cycle if you think you need to add test (an AAS). I think you need to read up - check out our articles section
@Chad92 welcome to the evo family bro nice to see you asking
can you do an oral only bulker 100%
50mgs dbol/day 25/25 mgs split
7caps n2guard/day organ liver support
5mgs aromasin eod anti estrogen
8 weeks
but to do this cycle and for us to say its the right one for you
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we have so much experience on this forum with helping people with their logs
you should put one up and keep us updated every day
you should put one up and keep us updated every day
oral only cycles are fine
just make sure you're using domestic Supply so you know you get the real stuff
just make sure you're using domestic Supply so you know you get the real stuff
bros orals are fine
but i like using them with tren
but i like using them with tren
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