Buyers Beware. Precautions and risks buying from UGLs.

[icecrxm]

Recently purchased from Napsgear. Test, and Primo, Ultima. Gear came in , clear as water which is a first in all the gear I’ve used but I considered some oils may look different, was strange nonetheless. Well I have a lot of experience with test , didn’t expect much from the primo , but to make it simple, what I received was terrible. Either was just oil in a vial or just composed of the most underdosed test I’ve ever experienced. And considering I go cold turkey as a reset after cycles and I do not PCT, I am quite familiar with how it feels to have low testosterone. I am also familiar with all the test I’ve used how it feels when my test levels are rising (increased body heat , muscle saturation , strong grip , high energy etc) , and I respond well fast (serum testosterone increases rapidly within 24hrs of Test E administration for example) so if you are experienced using test
#1. Don’t let anyone or the source you got it from tell you that you need 4-5 weeks for it to ‘kick in’. That’s as long as it takes to get noticeable gains and visual changes, not the same as the time it takes to work , which is within 24hrs of administration period. However if you are not experienced with test use , you probably won’t be in tune with your bodily changes to realize how you react when your test is rising within those couple weeks.
Anyway, I knew within a couple days it was garbage, but waited it out for 4-5 weeks with the same symptoms of low test , weak grip, fatigue , muscle flatness, low libido.
I contact napsgear, and let them know how unhappy I am with the product, and that I’m even willing to send that crap right back to them. They ask me for pictures and for the box the gear came in with the address which anyone would have thrown out by then. So
#2. Take pictures of the package the product comes in with mailing address visible. Take pictures of the product, auth codes, keep the invoice and any emails threads between you and the source. Take a picture of the day the gear arrived and save the tracking number.
Don’t be surprised if you don’t keep an email thread/clean out emails and they claim they don’t have the thread either.
To conclude this , Napsgear responded by asking about a test kit , but then promptly responded with a response saying they don’t accept test kits (when I didn’t even send one). So if you think a roidtest would work, not only do they not accept one , but even if it were accurate , it wouldn’t tell you if it was extremely underdosed anyway.
So be aware that if you do end up getting something low quality or crap, you lost your money. And they expect you to pay basically as much as the gear probably costed in the first place to get it quantitatively tested etc (hilarious).
Ive gotten good gear from the sponsors , but this time I didn’t. I don’t know if it was a bad batch but I will take this L from Napsgear.

PS: I tested 12mg Enclomiphene from Amino Asylum shortly after my 4-5th week of low test symptoms while using , and what do you know , muscle saturation , strong grip and high test symptoms reappear. Who would have thought?

 

[s.gentz]

Recently purchased from Napsgear. Test, and Primo, Ultima. Gear came in , clear as water which is a first in all the gear I’ve used but I considered some oils may look different, was strange nonetheless. Well I have a lot of experience with test , didn’t expect much from the primo , but to make it simple, what I received was terrible. Either was just oil in a vial or just composed of the most underdosed test I’ve ever experienced. And considering I go cold turkey as a reset after cycles and I do not PCT, I am quite familiar with how it feels to have low testosterone. I am also familiar with all the test I’ve used how it feels when my test levels are rising (increased body heat , muscle saturation , strong grip , high energy etc) , and I respond well fast (serum testosterone increases rapidly within 24hrs of Test E administration for example) so if you are experienced using test
#1. Don’t let anyone or the source you got it from tell you that you need 4-5 weeks for it to ‘kick in’. That’s as long as it takes to get noticeable gains and visual changes, not the same as the time it takes to work , which is within 24hrs of administration period. However if you are not experienced with test use , you probably won’t be in tune with your bodily changes to realize how you react when your test is rising within those couple weeks.
Anyway, I knew within a couple days it was garbage, but waited it out for 4-5 weeks with the same symptoms of low test , weak grip, fatigue , muscle flatness, low libido.
I contact napsgear, and let them know how unhappy I am with the product, and that I’m even willing to send that crap right back to them. They ask me for pictures and for the box the gear came in with the address which anyone would have thrown out by then. So
#2. Take pictures of the package the product comes in with mailing address visible. Take pictures of the product, auth codes, keep the invoice and any emails threads between you and the source. Take a picture of the day the gear arrived and save the tracking number.
Don’t be surprised if you don’t keep an email thread/clean out emails and they claim they don’t have the thread either.
To conclude this , Napsgear responded by asking about a test kit , but then promptly responded with a response saying they don’t accept test kits (when I didn’t even send one). So if you think a roidtest would work, not only do they not accept one , but even if it were accurate , it wouldn’t tell you if it was extremely underdosed anyway.
So be aware that if you do end up getting something low quality or crap, you lost your money. And they expect you to pay basically as much as the gear probably costed in the first place to get it quantitatively tested etc (hilarious).
Ive gotten good gear from the sponsors , but this time I didn’t. I don’t know if it was a bad batch but I will take this L from Napsgear.

PS: I tested 12mg Enclomiphene from Amino Asylum shortly after my 4-5th week of low test symptoms while using , and what do you know , muscle saturation , strong grip and high test symptoms reappear. Who would have thought?
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Did you get blood tests to show what your levels are? Home tests and “feeling” aren’t gonna cut it. Do you really think they would give you a refund based off how you feel? If you want to complain have some evidence of what your complaining about.
I have had nothing but great experiences with naps and all of the other sponses supporting this forum.

 

[stevesmi]

home lab kits are less accurate then one of those at home pregnancy tests.

we’ve had the gear sent off and tested on here. This was by vets looking to find something wrong and they couldn’t find a thing.

If all you are going by is a lab kit or how you feel then that doesn’t prove a thing and they tell you in the message the truth about sending the gear to be tested professionally.

and you realize that people try and selective scam sources all the time. claiming they never got their pack, claiming the gear is fake, claiming they sent the money when they never did etc. they aren't just gonna take a persons word for it when they say they are unhappy with their gear or whatever.

also our bodies are constantly changing, and its normal to have subpar cycles or whatnot. you can run the same batch of gear and get completely different results.

napsgear has many brands to choose from, i've used their ultima many times and have nothing but good things to say about them. but not every cycle has gone well for me over the years. it happens and our bodies are complex mechanisms. you could have 2 cycles where you run the same gear and have A results and have D results the next time. its normal otherwise we all would be 500 pounds of pure muscle and be benching 1200 pounds by now.

 

[Mobster]

Vs 100's of posts who say differently. And you more or less refused to get it tested in any way

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Recently purchased from Napsgear. Test, and Primo, Ultima. Gear came in , clear as water which is a first in all the gear I’ve used but I considered some oils may look different, was strange nonetheless. Well I have a lot of experience with test , didn’t expect much from the primo , but to make it simple, what I received was terrible. Either was just oil in a vial or just composed of the most underdosed test I’ve ever experienced. And considering I go cold turkey as a reset after cycles and I do not PCT, I am quite familiar with how it feels to have low testosterone. I am also familiar with all the test I’ve used how it feels when my test levels are rising (increased body heat , muscle saturation , strong grip , high energy etc) , and I respond well fast (serum testosterone increases rapidly within 24hrs of Test E administration for example) so if you are experienced using test
#1. Don’t let anyone or the source you got it from tell you that you need 4-5 weeks for it to ‘kick in’. That’s as long as it takes to get noticeable gains and visual changes, not the same as the time it takes to work , which is within 24hrs of administration period. However if you are not experienced with test use , you probably won’t be in tune with your bodily changes to realize how you react when your test is rising within those couple weeks.
Anyway, I knew within a couple days it was garbage, but waited it out for 4-5 weeks with the same symptoms of low test , weak grip, fatigue , muscle flatness, low libido.
I contact napsgear, and let them know how unhappy I am with the product, and that I’m even willing to send that crap right back to them. They ask me for pictures and for the box the gear came in with the address which anyone would have thrown out by then. So
#2. Take pictures of the package the product comes in with mailing address visible. Take pictures of the product, auth codes, keep the invoice and any emails threads between you and the source. Take a picture of the day the gear arrived and save the tracking number.
Don’t be surprised if you don’t keep an email thread/clean out emails and they claim they don’t have the thread either.
To conclude this , Napsgear responded by asking about a test kit , but then promptly responded with a response saying they don’t accept test kits (when I didn’t even send one). So if you think a roidtest would work, not only do they not accept one , but even if it were accurate , it wouldn’t tell you if it was extremely underdosed anyway.
So be aware that if you do end up getting something low quality or crap, you lost your money. And they expect you to pay basically as much as the gear probably costed in the first place to get it quantitatively tested etc (hilarious).
Ive gotten good gear from the sponsors , but this time I didn’t. I don’t know if it was a bad batch but I will take this L from Napsgear.

PS: I tested 12mg Enclomiphene from Amino Asylum shortly after my 4-5th week of low test symptoms while using , and what do you know , muscle saturation , strong grip and high test symptoms reappear. Who would have thought?
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@icecrxm to start off I would say that you know well that Napsgear.org doesn't make the gear, they sell existing popular labs that are in the industry.

could you have had sides that you didn't like 100% possible, but forget the kits forget the tests, did you do bloodwork? thats the best way to go.

truth be told Napsgear has a ton of love and I use them and support them but no doubt some guys could have negative sides, but so far you have no pictures of the gear posted, why?
can you share those at least?

and I followed your original log btw and now you tell us you DONT PCT? i think maybe there are way more to this store than you're telling us

not sharing the gear pics of bloods makes me very unhappy with your claim

Recently purchased from Napsgear. Test, and Primo, Ultima. Gear came in , clear as water which is a first in all the gear I’ve used but I considered some oils may look different, was strange nonetheless. Well I have a lot of experience with test , didn’t expect much from the primo , but to make it simple, what I received was terrible. Either was just oil in a vial or just composed of the most underdosed test I’ve ever experienced. And considering I go cold turkey as a reset after cycles and I do not PCT, I am quite familiar with how it feels to have low testosterone. I am also familiar with all the test I’ve used how it feels when my test levels are rising (increased body heat , muscle saturation , strong grip , high energy etc) , and I respond well fast (serum testosterone increases rapidly within 24hrs of Test E administration for example) so if you are experienced using test

 

[ceo]

bros try another brand and see if you like it better

 

[ROIDDERS]

Thousands of people have used Ultima and you are the first one to complain

 

[chesty]

Ultima test is on point. here they know how to make it smooth as butter that's an advantage not a disadvantage

 

[Ulter]

yeah napsgear doesn't make the gear man, they re-seller

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

APPROVED - NAPSGEAR

 

[e2]

get blood work done and then let us know I bet you everything will come in perfect

 

[2Thick]

of course it takes test E a while to kickin, you don't turn into jay cutler in 1 day

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

here there are a lot of factors when it comes to making gains maybe you're not sleeping good enough

 

[Wootoom]

get a log going, maybe your diet isn't up to par

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro you all over the place. you saying napsgear no good? then send me the gear i will gladly take it off your hands.
napsgear is where real men get their gear

 

[icecrxm]

Did you get blood tests to show what your levels are? Home tests and “feeling” aren’t gonna cut it. Do you really think they would give you a refund based off how you feel? If you want to complain have some evidence of what your complaining about.
I have had nothing but great experiences with naps and all of the other sponses supporting this forum.

No it will cut it, nice try. And nice deflection. If you can read it said clearly that I would send the test back. Refund? More like replace the garbage I was given , anecdotal experiences from regulars of this forum is not some godly trustworthy text.

 

[icecrxm]

Vs 100's of posts who say differently. And you more or less refused to get it tested in any way

Lol Yeah supporters of evo making all good posts regarding sponsors? Vs 1000s more outside of evo that say differently? And more than even the members of this site? I didn’t refuse shit, I was just told they don’t accept ‘roidtest’ and want me to get the gear professionally lab tested. It’s hilarious you say that like most UGLs aren't notoriously untrusted.

Thousands of people have used Ultima and you are the first one to complain

Like what kind of shill , nonsense is this? Sure you definitely know every human on earth’s experience with Ultima on the internet , random forum guy. This is that shit that makes the majority outside of these forums say you guys are paid off by sponsors in the first place. Blind meat riding statements like these based on zero fact or objectively not trying to help people who have a bad experience. The reality is that you guys are banking off of the fact that most people that have a bad experience from a source , do not come all the way to the forums to post about it.
Most people are opposed to conflict , and will avoid it , and move on , not only that, who says most customers that use these sponsors are even from this site at all? So the rare chance you have someone actually mad enough to create an entire account and post on the forums, the whole circle jerk , praise the sponsor and claim everyone has a good experience tactic is garbage, and frankly irrelevant. Now when I post bloodwork what’s the next tactic , blame my fucking diet for low testosterone? ‘not enough eGGS’? And sleep right ? LMAOOOOO. cute , and then spam ‘LOG’ like parrots? So if someone has good experiences with what they get , and then one they have problems with , you guys get mad that they didn’t keep it tucked away from public view in a private email thread right? Hilarious.

 

[Mobster]

You have to admit that
1) Not everyone will agree with you
2) NapsGear sell at least 2 dozen brands but you're blaming NapsGear
3) And are ignoring the 10000 or more satisfied customers.

I'm the first to admit you do not have to be 100% happy. I sent a bitching email to a parcel carrier just this morning (driver is bloody useless).

And look at the topic title. It doesn't exactly scream 'one bad experience' then accuse us who like the product of being shills. Ironic

 

[icecrxm]

@icecrxm to start off I would say that you know well that Napsgear.org doesn't make the gear, they sell existing popular labs that are in the industry.

could you have had sides that you didn't like 100% possible, but forget the kits forget the tests, did you do bloodwork? thats the best way to go.

truth be told Napsgear has a ton of love and I use them and support them but no doubt some guys could have negative sides, but so far you have no pictures of the gear posted, why?
can you share those at least?

and I followed your original log btw and now you tell us you DONT PCT? i think maybe there are way more to this store than you're telling us

not sharing the gear pics of bloods makes me very unhappy with your claim

Not

You have to admit that
1) Not everyone will agree with you
2) NapsGear sell at least 2 dozen brands but you're blaming NapsGear
3) And are ignoring the 10000 or more satisfied customers.

I'm the first to admit you do not have to be 100% happy. I sent a bitching email to a parcel carrier just this morning (driver is bloody useless).

And look at the topic title. It doesn't exactly scream 'one bad experience' then accuse us who like the product of being shills. Ironic

1) on this site because this is you guys safe space for your sponsors
2) blaming napsgear for their poor handling of the situation, when they can give an address and I can send that shit right back to Ultima or whatever ‘warehouse’ and they can inspect their gear and see what happened. I’d have been happy if Ultima checked it out themselves and sent an apology if something was wrong with the batch , at that point fuck the refund , I just expected some accountability.
3) and if I say there’s 100k more unhappy you’re just going to keep inflating to 1M happy at this point , this numbers out of thin air mess I’m over it.

and the title was meant for anyone who has had a bad experience to take pointers off of what I learned from this experience, and shilling is meant to promote something mainly to put it in a favorable light , generally for profit so there is no irony there.

 

[icecrxm]

@icecrxm to start off I would say that you know well that Napsgear.org doesn't make the gear, they sell existing popular labs that are in the industry.

could you have had sides that you didn't like 100% possible, but forget the kits forget the tests, did you do bloodwork? thats the best way to go.

truth be told Napsgear has a ton of love and I use them and support them but no doubt some guys could have negative sides, but so far you have no pictures of the gear posted, why?
can you share those at least?

and I followed your original log btw and now you tell us you DONT PCT? i think maybe there are way more to this store than you're telling us

not sharing the gear pics of bloods makes me very unhappy with your claim

Not everyone PCTs.** And many Olympia competitors let themselves fully reset naturally, I would wager most people period dont PCT in general because they don’t want to pay for it. While I have PCT’d in the past , I generally can regain my natural test after long enough naturally cold turkey, because I haven’t used harsh compounds like tren , halo, superdrol etc. If I try Trestolone or UltraDrol (MSTEN) then most definitely I will PCT. But I have not yet.