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Combat sports athlete looking for a cycle! Need advice from experienced people here

Wannabenatty

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Hi everyone! Hope you’re all doing well.



I am 27 years old and have been a lifelong athlete until a severe injury put me out for years. Came back With 51 pounds of fat on me, lost a-lot of functional strength built over since childhood due to bad physios and poor guidance. Came back to the game last year and have have lost 36 pounds since then. I used to compete and I came back and competed as well but my body does’t feel the same anymore even after extensive rehab and strengthening. I mainly do MMA including boxing, wrestling and Jiujitsu.



I feel really weak because of how much weight I had to lose, I’m training hard burning 1000+ calories in a session because of insane cardio requirements. I have done everything I can and I want extra help in achieving my goals. I know a lot of people will advise me against this but please hear me out. This is a 1-2 time thing I want to do to get back to my previous level, it is hard to maintain cardio, lose weight, preserve/gain muscle and maintain performance all at the same time and it has gotten depressing. I built all that over the years and lost it all. Now I have done what I could and I’m aiming to get a cycle in for the last pounds.



My plan:

Bodyfat: 22%

Thinking of running this cycle for 4 months (12 weeks) first 3 months on cut to go from 74 kgs to 67 kgs or maybe even 65 (65 is my ore injury weight I will see how I tolerate the deficit as I am burning a lot of calories but now I also want to maintain my performance)

Once I get to 65-67 range I an looking to go on a very weak ‘bulk’ mainly for strength gains and I am really far from my pre injury strength level.



Main Lifting: 3x a week (Compound movements such as Squats, deadlifts, shoulder press and rows (NO BENCHPRESS might do some incline accessory work that’s it)

Other l accessory work mainly focused on Lower back, glutes and shoulders but these sessions will also include farmers walks, dead bugs and suitcase carries as well)





Body weight exercises during my regular training sessions: During my regular sport sessions a lot of pushups, pullups and heel elevated squats are performed 2-3 times a week.



Sport sessions: will be training 4 times a week, these are very cardio intense sessions including a lot of live rounds and body weight exercises, drills and extensive warmups) I am not going to increase this from 4 days because I feel like I will be burdening my body a lot with 2 a days and want 2 rests days week.





Test: 250-350 mg/w (keeping this low as I don’t want estrogen related sides because of my high body fat)



Anavar: 50 mg Everday



HGH: start of slow with 1 iu everday and ramp it up to 4 ius in weeks



What should I use for estrogen related sides Armidex everyday? Please guide me on this one.





Liver support: Turmeric and garlic supplement, Liv52, Milk thistle, fresh almond milk



PCT: Need advice on this as well, how long, what to run, how to run I have done se research but I need a lot more guidance from you guys.





Please any advice on training sessions, my cycle, PCT and ANYTHING will be worth alot for me!
 
If you don’t mind injecting, use primo instead of anavar. If you keep primo and test levels about equal, you likely won’t need any sort of estrogen control, and primo is going to be lower side effect than var.
 
If you don’t mind injecting, use primo instead of anavar. If you keep primo and test levels about equal, you likely won’t need any sort of estrogen control, and primo is going to be lower side effect than var.
Hey, I actually thought Anavar would be better haha. Because of it’s minimal side effects and high fat burning properties. Plus I have hear it really is good for ligaments etc I’m also using this cycle to help with injuries. What do you think? Would Primo be better and lower side effects?
 
Hi everyone! Hope you’re all doing well.



I am 27 years old and have been a lifelong athlete until a severe injury put me out for years. Came back With 51 pounds of fat on me, lost a-lot of functional strength built over since childhood due to bad physios and poor guidance. Came back to the game last year and have have lost 36 pounds since then. I used to compete and I came back and competed as well but my body does’t feel the same anymore even after extensive rehab and strengthening. I mainly do MMA including boxing, wrestling and Jiujitsu.



I feel really weak because of how much weight I had to lose, I’m training hard burning 1000+ calories in a session because of insane cardio requirements. I have done everything I can and I want extra help in achieving my goals. I know a lot of people will advise me against this but please hear me out. This is a 1-2 time thing I want to do to get back to my previous level, it is hard to maintain cardio, lose weight, preserve/gain muscle and maintain performance all at the same time and it has gotten depressing. I built all that over the years and lost it all. Now I have done what I could and I’m aiming to get a cycle in for the last pounds.



My plan:

Bodyfat: 22%

Thinking of running this cycle for 4 months (12 weeks) first 3 months on cut to go from 74 kgs to 67 kgs or maybe even 65 (65 is my ore injury weight I will see how I tolerate the deficit as I am burning a lot of calories but now I also want to maintain my performance)

Once I get to 65-67 range I an looking to go on a very weak ‘bulk’ mainly for strength gains and I am really far from my pre injury strength level.



Main Lifting: 3x a week (Compound movements such as Squats, deadlifts, shoulder press and rows (NO BENCHPRESS might do some incline accessory work that’s it)

Other l accessory work mainly focused on Lower back, glutes and shoulders but these sessions will also include farmers walks, dead bugs and suitcase carries as well)





Body weight exercises during my regular training sessions: During my regular sport sessions a lot of pushups, pullups and heel elevated squats are performed 2-3 times a week.



Sport sessions: will be training 4 times a week, these are very cardio intense sessions including a lot of live rounds and body weight exercises, drills and extensive warmups) I am not going to increase this from 4 days because I feel like I will be burdening my body a lot with 2 a days and want 2 rests days week.





Test: 250-350 mg/w (keeping this low as I don’t want estrogen related sides because of my high body fat)



Anavar: 50 mg Everday



HGH: start of slow with 1 iu everday and ramp it up to 4 ius in weeks



What should I use for estrogen related sides Armidex everyday? Please guide me on this one.





Liver support: Turmeric and garlic supplement, Liv52, Milk thistle, fresh almond milk



PCT: Need advice on this as well, how long, what to run, how to run I have done se research but I need a lot more guidance from you guys.





Please any advice on training sessions, my cycle, PCT and ANYTHING will be worth alot for me!
@Wannabenatty i think before we talk about cycles we need this discuss your diet and training first.

also organ liver support should be n2guard not liv52

the diet and training will be crucial for us to see what kind of cycle you need and how much

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
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top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Pre-Cycle Diet training Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2023-2024-bulk-log.89292/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/princedaddy-2023-log-here-we-go-again.87659/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-cycle-training-log.86383/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/dozers-journey-to-the-stage-and-cycle.84184/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-time-tren-log.87653/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-anavar-rad140-cardarine-cycle-log.86174/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/contest-peak-cycle-this-year.85007/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-cycle.84662/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/summer-bulking-cycle.85543/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/lefr34ks-training-log.85141/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsys-training-log.83248/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/echos-hgh-log-and-cycle.85429/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-cycle-log.85538/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

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300mgs equipoise
50mgs winstrol
n2guard
but start LOG ASAP now dont wait
 
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no AAS are good for ligaments, it is quite the opposite. they actually put a lot of pressure on soft tissues cause they are inflammatory and cause you will be pushing heavier
have read some research that anavar indeed is goodcfor ligament and tendon repair. Test is bad therefore I am keeping it at a low dose. What PCT would you suggest? Also armidex eod dosage?
 
you sure your body fat number is accurate?
 
Okay guys I wasn't familiar with the log concept. I haven't started the peds yet but I will start a log from today.

It will include, my training for the day, calories and macros, Bodyweight and calories burned in a session calculated through Polar H10 HR reader. After a week I'll start the desired cycle and keep everyone updated through the log.
 
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