Contest prep 16 weeks out test/primo/mast/tren/winny thoughts

[gainsologist]

First contest prep 16 weeks out, already quite lean and vascular, done a decent amount of blasts so far. Currently on cruise test e@180mg stats around 102kg 5'10 10% bf age 29, was planning on doing;
Wk 1-16: test e 400mg
Wk 1-16: Primo 500mg
Wk 1-16: Mast 300mg
Wk 10-16: tren e 250mg
Wk13-16: winny 25mg ed

Week 10-16: prami 0.5mg
Week 1-16: armidex 0.5mg

Have read some people need an ai when taking primo/mast and some people don't, so I'm taking one just incase. Also couldn't choose between primo or mast and did some research, sounds like it's a personal opinion, very strong opinions either way, so both sounded like a good idea as I've acquired both anyway. Thoughts on this cycle? It's my first contest so want to go reasonably hard, been gymming for 13 years very consistently with a mix of alot of powerlifting and some bodybuilding, don't take breaks for life events gym never stops, so planning on showing my best which will hopefully result in wiping the floor at the novice comps

 

[s.gentz]

First contest prep 16 weeks out, already quite lean and vascular, done a decent amount of blasts so far. Currently on cruise test e@180mg stats around 102kg 5'10 10% bf age 29, was planning on doing;
Wk 1-16: test e 400mg
Wk 1-16: Primo 500mg
Wk 1-16: Mast 300mg
Wk 10-16: tren e 250mg
Wk13-16: winny 25mg ed

Week 10-16: prami 0.5mg
Week 1-16: armidex 0.5mg

Have read some people need an ai when taking primo/mast and some people don't, so I'm taking one just incase. Also couldn't choose between primo or mast and did some research, sounds like it's a personal opinion, very strong opinions either way, so both sounded like a good idea as I've acquired both anyway. Thoughts on this cycle? It's my first contest so want to go reasonably hard, been gymming for 13 years very consistently with a mix of alot of powerlifting and some bodybuilding, don't take breaks for life events gym never stops, so planning on showing my best which will hopefully result in wiping the floor at the novice comps

I would run this a little different for prep. Your not gonna want to run long ester compounds right up to the show. You want to switch to shorter ester 4-5 weeks out and then drop them a week or 1.5 weeks out. You will look dryer and harder.
Wk 1-10: test e 400mg
wk 11-15 test prop 400mg-drop 1 week out
Wk 1-16: Primo 500mg-dont bother with this
Wk 1-10: MastE 300mg
wk 11-15 mastP @500wk-drop 1 week out
Wk 10-16: tren A 250mg-drop 1.5-2weeks out
Wk13-15: winny 50mg ed-drop 1 week out
Week 10-16: prami 0.5mg-I wouldn't take this but have it on hand
Week 1-16: armidex 0.5mg

Start a log for this. Post up some pics and detail your diet and training. We can help bring you in at your best!!

 

[gainsologist]

I would run this a little different for prep. Your not gonna want to run long ester compounds right up to the show. You want to switch to shorter ester 4-5 weeks out and then drop them a week or 1.5 weeks out. You will look dryer and harder.
Wk 1-10: test e 400mg
wk 11-15 test prop 400mg-drop 1 week out
Wk 1-16: Primo 500mg-dont bother with this
Wk 1-10: MastE 300mg
wk 11-15 mastP @500wk-drop 1 week out
Wk 10-16: tren A 250mg-drop 1.5-2weeks out
Wk13-15: winny 50mg ed-drop 1 week out
Week 10-16: prami 0.5mg-I wouldn't take this but have it on hand
Week 1-16: armidex 0.5mg

Start a log for this. Post up some pics and detail your diet and training. We can help bring you in at your best!!

Thanks for the advice, will definitely get my hands on some short esters and drop them a week out. Why do you say drop the primo? Will post some logs soon

 

[s.gentz]

Thanks for the advice, will definitely get my hands on some short esters and drop them a week out. Why do you say drop the primo? Will post some logs soon

It's not needed for contest prep. You are dieting and trying to hold on to muscle. Test is fine for that. Primo is good to recomp, no need for it here.
More important is going to be your diet and training. Def post a log.

 

[gainsologist]

It's not needed for contest prep. You are dieting and trying to hold on to muscle. Test is fine for that. Primo is good to recomp, no need for it here.
More important is going to be your diet and training. Def post a log.

Ah thanks Il get rid of it. Training is this:

Hypertrophy

3/2/1 = Dorian yates style warmup 12-15 rep (1), nearly to failure 10-12 reps (2), all out to failure (3)
Drop sets last set on whichever exercises feel good on 3/2/1, 1 minimum
10/10/10 = superset (eg. 10 upper, 10 lower, 10 middle or 10 top half 10 bottom half 10 full rep etc.)
6 day split, rest day if needed.

Not including squats or barbell deadlift or barbell bench as I've been powerlifting for years and my joints need a break!

Quad focused

Standing calves 3/2/1
Pistol squat warm up x3 bodyweight
Leg extension 3/2/1
Bulgarians 3/2/1
10/10/10 on leg press

Chest/abs

Flat dumbbell 3/2/1/1
Incline smith machine press 3/2/1
Machine press 3/2/1
Cable flys 3/2/1
Dips failure x3
AB roller x3
AB crunch weighted x3

Back

Machine cable row 3/2/1
One arm row 3/2/1
Pull ups failure x3
Pull down fat grip supinated 3/2/1 drop set
Cable pullover 3/2/1
Bent over row to failure overhand/underhand x2 15 reps

Hammy focused/abs

Lying leg curl 3/2/1
Hip thrust 3/2/1
Dumbbell stiff leg deadlift 3/2/1
Stiff leg deadlift plate loaded machine 3/2/1
Adductor 3/2/1
Abductor 3/2/1
AB side raise

Delts
Front delt raises 3/2/1
Lateral raises 3/2/1
Rear delt flys cable 3/2/1
Dumbbell shrugs 3/2/1
Dumbbell shoulder press 3/2/1
Upright row 3/2/1

Arms
Tricep pushdown 10/10/10
One arm cable reverse pushdown 3/2/1
Overhead scull crusher cable 3/2/1

Hammer curl 3/2/1
Preacher curl 3/2/1
Incline dumbbell curl 3/2/1
Standing bicep barbell curl 7/7/7

 

[s.gentz]

Ah thanks Il get rid of it. Training is this:

Hypertrophy

3/2/1 = Dorian yates style warmup 12-15 rep (1), nearly to failure 10-12 reps (2), all out to failure (3)
Drop sets last set on whichever exercises feel good on 3/2/1, 1 minimum
10/10/10 = superset (eg. 10 upper, 10 lower, 10 middle or 10 top half 10 bottom half 10 full rep etc.)
6 day split, rest day if needed.

Not including squats or barbell deadlift or barbell bench as I've been powerlifting for years and my joints need a break!

Quad focused

Standing calves 3/2/1
Pistol squat warm up x3 bodyweight
Leg extension 3/2/1
Bulgarians 3/2/1
10/10/10 on leg press

Chest/abs

Flat dumbbell 3/2/1/1
Incline smith machine press 3/2/1
Machine press 3/2/1
Cable flys 3/2/1
Dips failure x3
AB roller x3
AB crunch weighted x3

Back

Machine cable row 3/2/1
One arm row 3/2/1
Pull ups failure x3
Pull down fat grip supinated 3/2/1 drop set
Cable pullover 3/2/1
Bent over row to failure overhand/underhand x2 15 reps

Hammy focused/abs

Lying leg curl 3/2/1
Hip thrust 3/2/1
Dumbbell stiff leg deadlift 3/2/1
Stiff leg deadlift plate loaded machine 3/2/1
Adductor 3/2/1
Abductor 3/2/1
AB side raise

Delts
Front delt raises 3/2/1
Lateral raises 3/2/1
Rear delt flys cable 3/2/1
Dumbbell shrugs 3/2/1
Dumbbell shoulder press 3/2/1
Upright row 3/2/1

Arms
Tricep pushdown 10/10/10
One arm cable reverse pushdown 3/2/1
Overhead scull crusher cable 3/2/1

Hammer curl 3/2/1
Preacher curl 3/2/1
Incline dumbbell curl 3/2/1
Standing bicep barbell curl 7/7/7

Start a log detailing your training and eating.
Here's a link to my log from 2023 prep. Def learned some lessons here about diet during prep.
Made a late decision to compete and only gave myself 14 weeks. Dieted very hard and lost a fair bit of muscle and couldn't fill up for he show. This next prep for 2025 show will be 20 weeks unless i stay much leaner than last time.
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

 

[dylangemelli]

Primo has always been my favorite compound and you certainly can cut extremely well on it and i certainly prefer it over masteron, however its simply not needed here.. a short estered stack is plenty and test, tren and mast is more than sufficient... if it were me and i was your coach, i would implement s23 here and forget primo.. it will get you rock hard, as well as increase strength and vascularity and stack extremely well with the others

 

[Mobster]

First contest prep 16 weeks out, already quite lean and vascular, done a decent amount of blasts so far. Currently on cruise test e@180mg stats around 102kg 5'10 10% bf age 29, was planning on doing;
Wk 1-16: test e 400mg
Wk 1-16: Primo 500mg
Wk 1-16: Mast 300mg
Wk 10-16: tren e 250mg
Wk13-16: winny 25mg ed

Week 10-16: prami 0.5mg
Week 1-16: armidex 0.5mg

Have read some people need an ai when taking primo/mast and some people don't, so I'm taking one just in case. Also couldn't choose between primo or mast and did some research, sounds like it's a personal opinion, very strong opinions either way, so both sounded like a good idea as I've acquired both anyway. Thoughts on this cycle? It's my first contest so want to go reasonably hard, been gymming for 13 years very consistently with a mix of alot of powerlifting and some bodybuilding, don't take breaks for life events gym never stops, so planning on showing my best which will hopefully result in wiping the floor at the novice comps

That would be my thinking

 

[stevesmi]

this will be awesome. i hope you are gonna turn this into a log. let us know

would love to also see your diet and pictures of your physique as well

 

[Pigsy]

Yes, I also like see this log and following along

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

First contest prep 16 weeks out, already quite lean and vascular, done a decent amount of blasts so far. Currently on cruise test e@180mg stats around 102kg 5'10 10% bf age 29, was planning on doing;
Wk 1-16: test e 400mg
Wk 1-16: Primo 500mg
Wk 1-16: Mast 300mg
Wk 10-16: tren e 250mg
Wk13-16: winny 25mg ed

Week 10-16: prami 0.5mg
Week 1-16: armidex 0.5mg

Have read some people need an ai when taking primo/mast and some people don't, so I'm taking one just incase. Also couldn't choose between primo or mast and did some research, sounds like it's a personal opinion, very strong opinions either way, so both sounded like a good idea as I've acquired both anyway. Thoughts on this cycle? It's my first contest so want to go reasonably hard, been gymming for 13 years very consistently with a mix of alot of powerlifting and some bodybuilding, don't take breaks for life events gym never stops, so planning on showing my best which will hopefully result in wiping the floor at the novice comps

Ah thanks Il get rid of it. Training is this:

Hypertrophy

3/2/1 = Dorian yates style warmup 12-15 rep (1), nearly to failure 10-12 reps (2), all out to failure (3)
Drop sets last set on whichever exercises feel good on 3/2/1, 1 minimum
10/10/10 = superset (eg. 10 upper, 10 lower, 10 middle or 10 top half 10 bottom half 10 full rep etc.)
6 day split, rest day if needed.

Not including squats or barbell deadlift or barbell bench as I've been powerlifting for years and my joints need a break!

Quad focused

Standing calves 3/2/1
Pistol squat warm up x3 bodyweight
Leg extension 3/2/1
Bulgarians 3/2/1
10/10/10 on leg press

Chest/abs

Flat dumbbell 3/2/1/1
Incline smith machine press 3/2/1
Machine press 3/2/1
Cable flys 3/2/1
Dips failure x3
AB roller x3
AB crunch weighted x3

Back

Machine cable row 3/2/1
One arm row 3/2/1
Pull ups failure x3
Pull down fat grip supinated 3/2/1 drop set
Cable pullover 3/2/1
Bent over row to failure overhand/underhand x2 15 reps

Hammy focused/abs

Lying leg curl 3/2/1
Hip thrust 3/2/1
Dumbbell stiff leg deadlift 3/2/1
Stiff leg deadlift plate loaded machine 3/2/1
Adductor 3/2/1
Abductor 3/2/1
AB side raise

Delts
Front delt raises 3/2/1
Lateral raises 3/2/1
Rear delt flys cable 3/2/1
Dumbbell shrugs 3/2/1
Dumbbell shoulder press 3/2/1
Upright row 3/2/1

Arms
Tricep pushdown 10/10/10
One arm cable reverse pushdown 3/2/1
Overhead scull crusher cable 3/2/1

Hammer curl 3/2/1
Preacher curl 3/2/1
Incline dumbbell curl 3/2/1
Standing bicep barbell curl 7/7/7

@gainsologist welcome welcome to the EVO family! love to see guys competing on here.

You're not the only bodybuilder here, we have many guys, check their logs:
@s.gentz you see in this thread did a show and is prepping for a new show: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2024-offseason-lean-bulk-log.98952/
@Pigsy is Mr. Universe prepping now: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
@PrinceDaddy is prepping for a Masters show: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
@Kindafitkindafat she's doing a Female bodybuilding show soon: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/powerlifting-2023-2024-cycle-log-female.95657/
@Borristheblade is doing a 2nd log pushing for a show: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-primobolan-hgh-insulin-cycle-log.99056/

as you see all the greats have a log going

now as to your cycle 16 weeks out, we are all just staring into emptiness guessing about you, yes I saw your 1 training share but that doesnt do much. Can you please share in a NEW thread, your Cycle Log journal, add diet training history and more and we can guide you on this journey.

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Contest cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

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[gainsologist]

Ah thanks Il get rid of it. Training is this:

Hypertrophy

3/2/1 = Dorian yates style warmup 12-15 rep (1), nearly to failure 10-12 reps (2), all out to failure (3)
Drop sets last set on whichever exercises feel good on 3/2/1, 1 minimum
10/10/10 = superset (eg. 10 upper, 10 lower, 10 middle or 10 top half 10 bottom half 10 full rep etc.)
6 day split, rest day if needed.


Quad focused

Standing calves 3/2/1
Pistol squat warm up x3 bodyweight
Leg extension 3/2/1
Bulgarians 3/2/1
10/10/10 on leg press

Chest/abs

Flat dumbbell 3/2/1/1
Incline smith machine press 3/2/1
Machine press 3/2/1
Cable flys 3/2/1
Dips failure x3
AB roller x3
AB crunch weighted x3

Back

Machine cable row 3/2/1
One arm row 3/2/1
Pull ups failure x3
Pull down fat grip supinated 3/2/1 drop set
Cable pullover 3/2/1
Bent over row to failure overhand/underhand x2 15 reps

Hammy focused/abs

Lying leg curl 3/2/1
Hip thrust 3/2/1
Dumbbell stiff leg deadlift 3/2/1
Stiff leg deadlift plate loaded machine 3/2/1
Adductor 3/2/1
Abductor 3/2/1
AB side raise

Delts
Front delt raises 3/2/1
Lateral raises 3/2/1
Rear delt flys cable 3/2/1
Dumbbell shrugs 3/2/1
Dumbbell shoulder press 3/2/1
Upright row 3/2/1

Arms
Tricep pushdown 10/10/10
One arm cable reverse pushdown 3/2/1
Overhead scull crusher cable 3/2/1

Hammer curl 3/2/1
Preacher curl 3/2/1
Incline dumbbell curl 3/2/1
Standing bicep barbell curl 7/7/7

this will be awesome. i hope you are gonna turn this into a log. let us know

would love to also see your diet and pictures of your physique as well

Log coming soon, here are the current pics. Do you think 20 weeks is enough to kill it with my current physique or should I wait till next season in April next year? (I'm from Australia) Terrible angle and lighting but best I could do

 

[s.gentz]

Log coming soon, here are the current pics. Do you think 20 weeks is enough to kill it with my current physique or should I wait till next season in April next year? (I'm from Australia) Terrible angle and lighting but best I could doView attachment 35244View attachment 35240View attachment 35242

20 weeks is plenty. Start a training and diet log.

 

[25homes]

First contest prep 16 weeks out, already quite lean and vascular, done a decent amount of blasts so far. Currently on cruise test e@180mg stats around 102kg 5'10 10% bf age 29, was planning on doing;
Wk 1-16: test e 400mg
Wk 1-16: Primo 500mg
Wk 1-16: Mast 300mg
Wk 10-16: tren e 250mg
Wk13-16: winny 25mg ed

Week 10-16: prami 0.5mg
Week 1-16: armidex 0.5mg

Have read some people need an ai when taking primo/mast and some people don't, so I'm taking one just incase. Also couldn't choose between primo or mast and did some research, sounds like it's a personal opinion, very strong opinions either way, so both sounded like a good idea as I've acquired both anyway. Thoughts on this cycle? It's my first contest so want to go reasonably hard, been gymming for 13 years very consistently with a mix of alot of powerlifting and some bodybuilding, don't take breaks for life events gym never stops, so planning on showing my best which will hopefully result in wiping the floor at the novice comps

This should be solid. Def following this

 

[e2]

You got some impressive size to you
now you've got a lower your body fat back down

 

[2Thick]

you look good man we're looking forward to seeing your log
we have a lot of Australia bodybuilders here so welcome

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

you look incredible
you got good muscular strength and size

 

[Wootoom]

I think that you're going to have a hell of a log
I'm looking for to following it

 

[JasonPriest]

the best reason to start your log is so that we can track your progress
contest prep is hard because you have to time things perfectly

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro tren is your friend
masteron too is bigtime good