Critique first cycle - Andropen, Sustanon, HCG & PCT

[cts-v]

Hi all,

Figured I'd get everyone's opinion here on my first cycle. I am about 10 days in, but here's what I am going for:

Week 1-6: Andropen - 1CC every 3 days 275mg
Week 6-12: Sustanon - 1CC every 3 days 300mg
Week 2-12: hCG @ 250 iu every 3 days
Week 1-12: Armosin 12.5 eod


PCT looks like Clomid 50/50/25/25 and Nolva 40/20/20/20 daily along with the guidelines for the perfect PCT. Question is do I start 3 days after the last shot of sustanon, and then 4 weeks after that? No Armosin at this time.

Going for a lean bulk - my cholesterol is already quite high so itll be around 3,000 calories of chicken, almonds, and rice. Going to stay away from lean meat & cheese. I am currently 180 lbs, 5'10"

 

[stevesmi]

the biggest mistakes guys make with pct is they don't understand that these esters take many weeks to clear. sustanon has 2 very long esters in it.. so it will take 5-6 weeks to get to low levels

so lets say you run a 4 week pct (typical parroted pct you see on forums) after 1 week.. that means that essentially you will finish pct while the esters are almost out of your body.

the point of pct is to give a soft landing. in this example essentially you are accomplishing nothing. now you see why all these forum parroters are actually on TRT for life.

so you can start pct whenever you want, but you gotta stretch it out so it catches the crash so it is soft. and you also should do a pct into bridge too.
i hope that makes sense and answers your question

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Overall it looks good. Drop the HCG but leave the rest. The PCT should be this: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html

 

[muskate]

The cycle itself looks great. My only tip is to drop the HCG and revamp your PCT.

Whenever you put an artificial source of steroids in your body, your natural testosterone production is going to be suppressed. HCG will not change that but will only add side effects.
Read this article on HCG -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erous-part-2-a-51145.html?highlight=dangerous

Second, the only school 2 SERM PCT is not optimal at all. Check out this link on the perfect PCT protocol -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html
It explains exactly how to run a PCT after you cycle so your natural testosterone production fully recovers and you keep all the gains you made on your cycle.