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Cruise or PCT for cutting

Glazio

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Hey guys,

I'm just finalising my plan for my current cycle & how to end the cycle & some general advice to boot.

I am currently completing 500mg/week of Test E, about 6 weeks in to my current cycle. This is my first ever cycle.

Regarding the end to my current cycle I am tossing up between two main approaches;

1) Enter a cruise dose at start of November & enter my cut before planning another blast in 2024
2) PCT from early December & cut (reason for Dec being I am going away for two weeks late November & may as well time this just prior to entering PCT if this is the case)

Now one of the key markers behind the direction I go will come down to whether my wife and I plan on attempting to have another baby in 2024, i.e. should likely choose PCT?? if this is the case

I am interested in to everyone's insight though in to whether undergoing a cut and entering PCT at the same time is likely to be a successful way to cap my current cycle & retain my lean muscle gains. If the consensus is poor for this option, I may need to delay the PCT until I enter cruise mode on my diet.

On another note, once this is all said and done I look forward to giving a reflection log on my first experience. When the time comes in the future to one day hit a second cycle I also look forward to providing a log from pre to post.
 
Staying on is never a good ideal unless 100% needed. More so if you're trying for a kid. It ought to be kinda obvious to someone using steroids. I gotta ask why you'd need to ask.
 
you should never stay on unless its something you medically need.. its a huge mistake that so many (MYSELF INCLUDED) have made and generally regret..

if you are intending to have a child, trt is about the worst thing you could do.. is it impossible to have a child on trt, no, but is it likely you will, definitely not.. it will drastically decline your chances and more often than not, it would require help of a fertility clinic to allow it to happen... i have seen instances where people are able to have one on trt but like i said, it drastically decreases the likelihood for you...
 
anytime you stay on gear longer then 20 weeks (i'm including the esters in that so a 14 week cycle that has long esters that clear 6 additional weeks makes 20) you cause some sort of HPTA damage

staying on (won't even call it cycles) longer then that makes it harder and harder. we've had countless guys log their journeys coming off being on for over a year. their logs go about 20 pages then they dissapear. i have never once seen a successful story from someone who did that. doesn't mean its impossible
 
Hey guys,

I'm just finalising my plan for my current cycle & how to end the cycle & some general advice to boot.

I am currently completing 500mg/week of Test E, about 6 weeks in to my current cycle. This is my first ever cycle.

Regarding the end to my current cycle I am tossing up between two main approaches;

1) Enter a cruise dose at start of November & enter my cut before planning another blast in 2024
2) PCT from early December & cut (reason for Dec being I am going away for two weeks late November & may as well time this just prior to entering PCT if this is the case)

Now one of the key markers behind the direction I go will come down to whether my wife and I plan on attempting to have another baby in 2024, i.e. should likely choose PCT?? if this is the case

I am interested in to everyone's insight though in to whether undergoing a cut and entering PCT at the same time is likely to be a successful way to cap my current cycle & retain my lean muscle gains. If the consensus is poor for this option, I may need to delay the PCT until I enter cruise mode on my diet.

On another note, once this is all said and done I look forward to giving a reflection log on my first experience. When the time comes in the future to one day hit a second cycle I also look forward to providing a log from pre to post.

First good to see you post and talk about your cycle but I'm not happy you are NOT sharing a LOG journal. So you say "when the time comes" whats that mean? you using steroids and putting your body at harm but you're not logging diet training cardio etc?
I dont get your approach to this at all, why haven't you put up your LOG journal yet? explain please.

I would PCT and start your cycle after.
 
Staying on should never be done unless you can't maintain healthy test levels on your own. You need to come off and pct
 
like it or not pros do stay on year round. it is the necessary evil
 
On another note, once this is all said and done I look forward to giving a reflection log on my first experience. When the time comes in the future to one day hit a second cycle I also look forward to providing a log from pre to post.

bros we dont need a POST cycle reflection we need a LOG as you go
 
On another note, once this is all said and done I look forward to giving a reflection log on my first experience. When the time comes in the future to one day hit a second cycle I also look forward to providing a log from pre to post.

what reflection? a reflection is NOT a log, how can we help you if you didnt post a LOG
 
without knowing your full LOG journal now you want us to Guess what you should do, no way
log it first
 
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guessing wont do here i want to see your LOG first
 
log your cycle asap if you want true help
 
generic answer, bro dont cruise do trt

real deal answer, LOG first and we can really help you knowing details
 
Hey guys,

I'm just finalising my plan for my current cycle & how to end the cycle & some general advice to boot.

I am currently completing 500mg/week of Test E, about 6 weeks in to my current cycle. This is my first ever cycle.

Regarding the end to my current cycle I am tossing up between two main approaches;

1) Enter a cruise dose at start of November & enter my cut before planning another blast in 2024
2) PCT from early December & cut (reason for Dec being I am going away for two weeks late November & may as well time this just prior to entering PCT if this is the case)

Now one of the key markers behind the direction I go will come down to whether my wife and I plan on attempting to have another baby in 2024, i.e. should likely choose PCT?? if this is the case

I am interested in to everyone's insight though in to whether undergoing a cut and entering PCT at the same time is likely to be a successful way to cap my current cycle & retain my lean muscle gains. If the consensus is poor for this option, I may need to delay the PCT until I enter cruise mode on my diet.

On another note, once this is all said and done I look forward to giving a reflection log on my first experience. When the time comes in the future to one day hit a second cycle I also look forward to providing a log from pre to post.

Do your PCT bro
 
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