Cyclists and steroids

[Pertoni]

Hey Athletes! Here is a big fun of bodybuilding but practices a complete different activity: road cycling.
I firmly believe to have reached my genetic limit in this sport. Top 5% population power outputs, 1000 and more hour of training per year. Regarding training there’s no room for improvements.
I enjoy bodybuilding and chemistry.
I am having a look at tbol.
Do you think it could give me a key to open a door in my performance? I am also looking forward to other compounds (besides Epo). I am already an avid user of SR and Cardarine, of course

I appreciate!

 

[GoldenPlague]

For a first cycle, it's best to use testosterone only, since your body produces it, knows what it is, is used to it.

Start with a small dose and increase the dose slowly over time, so you can see what doses you can tolerate and at what doses side effects become intolerable.

When you reach a certain dose, then you can add 1 more steroid to the cycle. Don't add multiple steroids at once, because if you get side effects, you won't know what exactly causes them. By running a testosterone base with synthetic testosterone and adding one steroid at a time, you will know what steroids exactly are good options for you and don't cause a lot of problems.

As for T-bol (turinabol), it's a good steroid, yes, but you NEED to run a testosterone dose with it, because turinabol is NOT testosterone, but dihydrotestosterone derivative, meaning it adds exogenous androgens, which is suppressive, doesn't add testosterone and shuts down natural testosterone production. In other words, if you don't use testosterone during a turinabol cycle, your body won't have testosterone and estrogen (testosterone -> aromatase -> estrogen), which will cause brutal side effects like erectile dysfunction, osteoporosis, decrease of good and increase of bad cholesterol, potential heart issues, terrible mood, and many more.

Also, if you are going to use a cycle dose, not just a TRT dose, don't forget to keep track on estrogen and use aromatase inhibitors accordingly.

Be careful: Aromatase inhibitors can actually reduce your estrogen to below normal range, which will cause a lot of problems.

 

[dylangemelli]

For a first cycle, it's best to use testosterone only, since your body produces it, knows what it is, is used to it.

Start with a small dose and increase the dose slowly over time, so you can see what doses you can tolerate and at what doses side effects become intolerable.

When you reach a certain dose, then you can add 1 more steroid to the cycle. Don't add multiple steroids at once, because if you get side effects, you won't know what exactly causes them. By running a testosterone base with synthetic testosterone and adding one steroid at a time, you will know what steroids exactly are good options for you and don't cause a lot of problems.

As for T-bol (turinabol), it's a good steroid, yes, but you NEED to run a testosterone dose with it, because turinabol is NOT testosterone, but dihydrotestosterone derivative, meaning it adds exogenous androgens, which is suppressive, doesn't add testosterone and shuts down natural testosterone production. In other words, if you don't use testosterone during a turinabol cycle, your body won't have testosterone and estrogen (testosterone -> aromatase -> estrogen), which will cause brutal side effects like erectile dysfunction, osteoporosis, decrease of good and increase of bad cholesterol, potential heart issues, terrible mood, and many more.

Also, if you are going to use a cycle dose, not just a TRT dose, don't forget to keep track on estrogen and use aromatase inhibitors accordingly.

Be careful: Aromatase inhibitors can actually reduce your estrogen to below normal range, which will cause a lot of problems.

LMFAO, you have ZERO experience and have never ran a cycle and you are telling others how to run a cycle... STOP IT, seriously... you have no business whatsoever doing that! You dont even ask important questions to see if they should even be using something... seriously, you need to stop

 

[dylangemelli]

Hey Athletes! Here is a big fun of bodybuilding but practices a complete different activity: road cycling.
I firmly believe to have reached my genetic limit in this sport. Top 5% population power outputs, 1000 and more hour of training per year. Regarding training there’s no room for improvements.
I enjoy bodybuilding and chemistry.
I am having a look at tbol.
Do you think it could give me a key to open a door in my performance? I am also looking forward to other compounds (besides Epo). I am already an avid user of SR and Cardarine, of course

I appreciate!

what are your stats? age/height/weight/body fat???

 

[Pertoni]

26 years old, 6ftx70kg. No idea about body fat but I have very big legs and I can clearly see the separation. Rest of the body fairly lean, I would say I’m around 12/15%.
My question: is there any benefit in running steroids (I would guess a lower dosage respect to bb) for a cyclist? Or maybe other hardcore compounds. I know many here likes sarms but I’m opened to normal steroids, and I see they’re much preferred normally
Again, I appreciate your attention

 

[GoldenPlague]

LMFAO, you have ZERO experience and have never ran a cycle and you are telling others how to run a cycle... STOP IT, seriously... you have no business whatsoever doing that! You dont even ask important questions to see if they should even be using something... seriously, you need to stop

Is what I said correct?

 

[dylangemelli]

Is what I said correc

26 years old, 6ftx70kg. No idea about body fat but I have very big legs and I can clearly see the separation. Rest of the body fairly lean, I would say I’m around 12/15%.
My question: is there any benefit in running steroids (I would guess a lower dosage respect to bb) for a cyclist? Or maybe other hardcore compounds. I know many here likes sarms but I’m opened to normal steroids, and I see they’re much preferred normally
Again, I appreciate your attention

honestly, not particularly helpful as a cyclist and far more of a hindrance than help.. orals can cause you to not only experience excruciating pumps but also extreme lethargy.. certainly far from beneficial for endurance type exercise.. you are still quite young on top of it and i would hold off a few more years until closer to 30... sarms could not be more ideal for what you are doing... i can help with a very strong layout for what you would want/need... something "hardcore" is the last thing you want

 

[dylangemelli]

Is what I said correct?

you have nothing but cut and paste qualities and did not even bother to ask ANY background information.. you are clueless to say the least and trolling the forum.. you have less than zero business giving advice when you have NO experience, NO coaching experience, ask newbie questions daily, and cut and paste EVERYTHING you do... you are starting to now piss me off and if you really want to get on that side of me, go for it...

 

[Pertoni]

@dylangemelli I am opened to any suggestion I appreciate your help

 

[GoldenPlague]

you have nothing but cut and paste qualities and did not even bother to ask ANY background information.. you are clueless to say the least and trolling the forum.. you have less than zero business giving advice when you have NO experience, NO coaching experience, ask newbie questions daily, and cut and paste EVERYTHING you do... you are starting to now piss me off and if you really want to get on that side of me, go for it...

Asking for background information is actually nonsense. People will do it anyway, no matter of what you tell them.

A 15 years old can and will tell you they are 30 years old if that means you will give them information on how to do the cycle.

And what copy or cut/paste are you talking about?

 

[s.gentz]

Hey Athletes! Here is a big fun of bodybuilding but practices a complete different activity: road cycling.
I firmly believe to have reached my genetic limit in this sport. Top 5% population power outputs, 1000 and more hour of training per year. Regarding training there’s no room for improvements.
I enjoy bodybuilding and chemistry.
I am having a look at tbol.
Do you think it could give me a key to open a door in my performance? I am also looking forward to other compounds (besides Epo). I am already an avid user of SR and Cardarine, of course

I appreciate!

I used to be a cyclist. Mostly mountain and cyclocross but def put in the time on the road.
GW and Osterine are the best options to keep light and push past limits.

 

[s.gentz]

For a first cycle, it's best to use testosterone only, since your body produces it, knows what it is, is used to it.

Start with a small dose and increase the dose slowly over time, so you can see what doses you can tolerate and at what doses side effects become intolerable.

When you reach a certain dose, then you can add 1 more steroid to the cycle. Don't add multiple steroids at once, because if you get side effects, you won't know what exactly causes them. By running a testosterone base with synthetic testosterone and adding one steroid at a time, you will know what steroids exactly are good options for you and don't cause a lot of problems.

As for T-bol (turinabol), it's a good steroid, yes, but you NEED to run a testosterone dose with it, because turinabol is NOT testosterone, but dihydrotestosterone derivative, meaning it adds exogenous androgens, which is suppressive, doesn't add testosterone and shuts down natural testosterone production. In other words, if you don't use testosterone during a turinabol cycle, your body won't have testosterone and estrogen (testosterone -> aromatase -> estrogen), which will cause brutal side effects like erectile dysfunction, osteoporosis, decrease of good and increase of bad cholesterol, potential heart issues, terrible mood, and many more.

Also, if you are going to use a cycle dose, not just a TRT dose, don't forget to keep track on estrogen and use aromatase inhibitors accordingly.

Be careful: Aromatase inhibitors can actually reduce your estrogen to below normal range, which will cause a lot of problems.

Please don't try to give advice. You have 0 practical experience here.

 

[Pertoni]

@s.gentz which dosage would you go for ostarine?

 

[GoldenPlague]

Please don't try to give advice. You have 0 practical experience here.

But you know what I said is correct.

 

[s.gentz]

@s.gentz which dosage would you go for ostarine?

50mg/day

 

[dylangemelli]

Asking for background information is actually nonsense. People will do it anyway, no matter of what you tell them.

A 15 years old can and will tell you they are 30 years old if that means you will give them information on how to do the cycle.

And what copy or cut/paste are you talking about?

your the biggest clown on the internet and thats saying something.. if you dont get background information, you give out nonsensical senseless information that will harm people.. you could care less about anyone or anything.. just a huge scumbag mentality to say the least and you need to go

 

[dylangemelli]

@dylangemelli I am opened to any suggestion I appreciate your help

anytime bro.. im a 10 mile a day runner and overall i do 90 minutes of endurance cardio per day and have now for well over a decade, as well as trained thousands of clients doing the same type of workout you are doing... as far as what would be the most beneficial to you, it certainly does not have to be hardcore whatsoever but more aimed towards recovery, endurance, and strength... this would be the perfect layout for these goals...


for the best quality sarms check out https://umbrellalabs.is

1-12 GW-501516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 Sr9009 (STENABOLIC) 30 mg day... 10 mg doses 4-5 hours apart
1-12 S4 (ANDARINE) 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 Mk2866 (OSTABOLIC) 25 mg per day first two weeks then bump to 50 mg per day, dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 n2guard

Mini pct 13-16

Clomid 50/25/25/25 OR Nolva 40/20/20/20
Gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[dylangemelli]

Asking for background information is actually nonsense. People will do it anyway, no matter of what you tell them.

A 15 years old can and will tell you they are 30 years old if that means you will give them information on how to do the cycle.

And what copy or cut/paste are you talking about?

Not to mention the attitude of a child... "they will do it anyway" so thats the life mentality you have .. SMFH.. you need to go, you are not wanted here at all i assure you

 

[GoldenPlague]

your the biggest clown on the internet and thats saying something.. if you dont get background information, you give out nonsensical senseless information that will harm people.. you could care less about anyone or anything.. just a huge scumbag mentality to say the least and you need to go

Why are you calling me a clown?

See the information I gave him. The information I gave him without knowing his background is more valuable and useful than the information you gave him knowing his background.

Continue crying

 

[dylangemelli]

Why are you calling me a clown?

See the information I gave him. The information I gave him without knowing his background is more valuable and useful than the information you gave him knowing his background.

Continue crying

really... so you and your ZERO experience or me with over a million followers, paid for over a decade as a coach to professional athletes, a speaker at the mr olympia roundtable with world renowned doctors etc and YOU are giving out better info LMFAOOOO you dont even know what syringe to use LMFAOOOO calling you a clown was giving you WAY too much credit.. you are a child typing from moms house... please, go away