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Dangerous S23 advice being passed around by Monstro...

dylangemelli

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It has been coming to my attention that Monstro is recommending S23 to anyone and everyone...

S23 is essentially a steroid, known as a MALE CONTRACEPTIVE, meaning it will SHUT YOU DOWN EXTREMELY HARD.. he is advising this type of use to very young men, often times in their very early 20's.. this is beyond dangerous and will cause big harm to someone that young.. this is an extremely strong shut down that will occur and this needs to stop now! Beyond that, there is never any advice about using a FULL pct when using it.. This needs to stop now. .it is dangerous, careless and wreckless... it is termed MALE CONTRACEPTIVE for a reason!

Anyone reading this, please DO NOT listen to that kind of advice being given... I have seen it go on too long now... It needs to stop!

S23 yields tremendous results and is something that many do use however it is NOT for people this young and should only be used by very experienced users... He is also recommending it to newer users.. This carelessness needs to stop and i will not stop calling it out
 
He has done nothing but give out dangerous and conflicting information for a very long period of time. I have tried to always be polite and respectful but this certainly needs to be stopped and I, for one, am very thankful you put this post up. There needs to be more awareness of this!
 
It has been coming to my attention that Monstro is recommending S23 to anyone and everyone...

S23 is essentially a steroid, known as a MALE CONTRACEPTIVE, meaning it will SHUT YOU DOWN EXTREMELY HARD.. he is advising this type of use to very young men, often times in their very early 20's.. this is beyond dangerous and will cause big harm to someone that young.. this is an extremely strong shut down that will occur and this needs to stop now! Beyond that, there is never any advice about using a FULL pct when using it.. This needs to stop now. .it is dangerous, careless and wreckless... it is termed MALE CONTRACEPTIVE for a reason!

Anyone reading this, please DO NOT listen to that kind of advice being given... I have seen it go on too long now... It needs to stop!

S23 yields tremendous results and is something that many do use however it is NOT for people this young and should only be used by very experienced users... He is also recommending it to newer users.. This carelessness needs to stop and i will not stop calling it out
@dylangemelli maybe s23 is good for @MONSTRO but I don't think its good for majority of new users, I agree with it

@MONSTRO stop it bro!
 
There have always been people who 'enjoy' being 'edgy'. In their own approach and how they 'help' others. The late Paul Borreson being one. I've long taken a bigger picture view. That of what most need in terms of sensible advice rather that what they might WANT to hear. In that way you're thinking about their longevity and the reputation of the forums, yourself and history of the Iron Game.

It's why you don't recommend what the freaks and Olympians use for competition for an aveerage Joe wanting 5lbs of muscle. In Monstro's occasional defense he's even said 'this is what I do and I'm a pro'. If you are not you do NOT need to do what he does. Heck I use less than many here so you don't need to do what I do either
 
There have always been people who 'enjoy' being 'edgy'. In their own approach and how they 'help' others. The late Paul Borreson being one. I've long taken a bigger picture view. That of what most need in terms of sensible advice rather that what they might WANT to hear. In that way you're thinking about their longevity and the reputation of the forums, yourself and history of the Iron Game.

It's why you don't recommend what the freaks and Olympians use for competition for an aveerage Joe wanting 5lbs of muscle. In Monstro's occasional defense he's even said 'this is what I do and I'm a pro'. If you are not you do NOT need to do what he does. Heck I use less than many here so you don't need to do what I do either
maybe you should do a log on s23?
 
maybe you should do a log on s23?
Possibly at some point at the ass end of 2024 I might consider it

As I've discussed elsewhere (and we talked about planning ahead in a podcast we recorded yesterday ha ha) I can see me running a power (poss just Var) cycle around the end of February. I've also said on the forums AND podcasts to run and get what YOU need for YOUR aims. I'm not worried about having kids (I'll be well over 60 by the end of next year) so the contraceptive part is NOT an issue. But a hard shut down... that is. For those reading I don't care two f**ks if my 'swimmers' are screwed only how recovered etc I feel between cycles. That might make me hesitate. We will see
 
In Portugal when a man challenges another man we stand next to each other and settle things man on man. Why the hate Dylan? I reached out to you already via PM's and you keep ignoring me.
 
I don't agree with you on this Dylan. This is cancel culture. reminds me of when they cancelled Kaepernick for having a different viewpoint
 
is S23 really a male contraceptive though? i thought it was studied as one but they never showed it really was. someone answer that
 
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Dylan you should call it out for sure. that is freedom of speech!
 
As mobster has admitted I am the real pro of this forum and i should be respected.

in portugal when a man respects you they don't call you out like cowards, they step to you like a man
 
Monstro makes a good point. this is 100% cancel culture. we should love each other and get along
 
I will settle the argument in 5 seconds like this
if you are under 21 don't use s23, if you are over 21 then you are legally an adult and should use it
 
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