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Dangerous S23 advice being passed around by Monstro...

I agree with Dylan more. you should not give out advice that is dangerous or abusive.
 
I don't know what it's like in most countries but in America 18 years old is the legal adult age
so if you are over 18 years old you have the freedom to do what you want
Even in the US age matters. Is it not still a thing re drinking at 21?

And you're fully aware of the issue. Few men are fully matured at age 18. Heck the average Joe doesn't hit full strength until their mid-30's. And we've seen far too many under our 'age limit' end up with issues for LIFE. And, again as we've seen all too often, many change their minds at age 30 etc. Are you ok with giving advice you know will screw someone's ability to have kids cos 'they were over 18'?

And, just to state the obvious, regardless of age steroid use is a legal issue. Doesn't matter if the user is 99
 
Even in the US age matters. Is it not still a thing re drinking at 21?

And you're fully aware of the issue. Few men are fully matured at age 18. Heck the average Joe doesn't hit full strength until their mid-30's. And we've seen far too many under our 'age limit' end up with issues for LIFE. And, again as we've seen all too often, many change their minds at age 30 etc. Are you ok with giving advice you know will screw someone's ability to have kids cos 'they were over 18'?

And, just to state the obvious, regardless of age steroid use is a legal issue. Doesn't matter if the user is 99
You are spot on.
To add to this i think many also just give blanket statements to use s23 and other drugs without any other guidance or direction. Just "use ___"
Many don't seem to take into account that these are younger folks coming on here and are very impressionable. They see someone sayin "i'm a pro, i did it" and they think they are getting good advice for THEM, when in actuality it's very poor advice..
Most don't even have very much training, they are just looking for the fast way cause that's what x/y/z on YouTube does.
This is not only a one person issue on this and other forums.
 
Even in the US age matters. Is it not still a thing re drinking at 21?

And you're fully aware of the issue. Few men are fully matured at age 18. Heck the average Joe doesn't hit full strength until their mid-30's. And we've seen far too many under our 'age limit' end up with issues for LIFE. And, again as we've seen all too often, many change their minds at age 30 etc. Are you ok with giving advice you know will screw someone's ability to have kids cos 'they were over 18'?

And, just to state the obvious, regardless of age steroid use is a legal issue. Doesn't matter if the user is 99
there are things like alcohol where you have to be 21. has more to do with car insurance rates though, at that age your car insurance is ridiculously high. i remember i was paying almost 4K a year for car insurance. young males pay up the ass already so just imagine adding alcohol to that

also cruise ships you have to be with an adult to go on one. some won't let you go if you are under 25 without an adult.

otherwise 18 is legal adult
 
I want to know about the S23 fr like is it really all that
 
You are spot on.
To add to this i think many also just give blanket statements to use s23 and other drugs without any other guidance or direction. Just "use ___"
Many don't seem to take into account that these are younger folks coming on here and are very impressionable. They see someone sayin "i'm a pro, i did it" and they think they are getting good advice for THEM, when in actuality it's very poor advice..
Most don't even have very much training, they are just looking for the fast way cause that's what x/y/z on YouTube does.
This is not only a one person issue on this and other forums.
Twp thoughts

1) How much we change our thinking in a very short time frame. From 13 and 'I hate my parents' and 'no one understands me' to 'god damn mum and dad had it hard I was such a dick' aged 21. And 21 'I'm king of all I survey' to 'gonna be cold soon my iffy knee is aching' aged 30 ha ha

2) Bigger picture shit. I was awarded (lost now) an 'OHF Ambassador of the year' award for promoting health, strength and wellness through my magazine (started by David Gentle) Muscle Mob. I keep half an eye on our reputation here on these forums and on the world beyond. That includes trying to be responsible for solid useful advice vs 'just telling them what they wanna hear' knowing full well that that way will damage them and they will regret listening. Dylan has faults (and history). We all do. But he IS responsible. Monstro could do better
 
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Twp thoughts

1) How much we change our thinking in a very short time frame. From 13 and 'I hate my parents' and 'no one understands me' to 'god damn mum and dad had it hard I was such a dick' aged 21. And 21 'I'm king of all I survey' to 'gonna be cold soon my iffy knee is aching' aged 30 ha ha

2) Bigger picture shit. I was awarded (lost now) an 'OHF Ambassador of the year' award for promoting health, strength and wellness through my magazine (started by David Gentle) Muscle Mob. I keep half an eye on our reputation here on these forums and on the world beyond. That includes trying to be responsible for solid useful advice vs 'just telling them what they wanna hear' knowing full well that that way will damage them and they will regret listening. Dylan has faults (and history). We all do. But he IS responsible. Monstro could do better
1) 100% agree
2) 100%. agree. Monstro is not the only one who could do better. Lotta guys don't read the OP comments and just pile on what the next guy says.
 
I want to know about the S23 fr like is it really all that
No. Nor is YK11. Both are, via google, considered to be the strongest of sarms. Yet why not just do AAS then? More so when the sides outweigh the results vs using dbol. It's less that they are 'strong' as far as results than overall effects inc sides.

YK11 is, I think, the one which claims to be a myostatin inhibitor. If so it's a very mild effect. No user has posted pics of them doubled muscled like Belgian Blue cow. Ergo why bother.

Sarms ALL have their place. Some are oustanding - GW and MK677 (get either from PSL (GW and MK677) or Umbrella Labs (GW)) spring to mind as great for what they do. Others work but in a much milder and 'safer' way than a mild AAS ergo why people use them over AAS's. Others work well WITH AAS
 
1) 100% agree
2) 100%. agree. Monstro is not the only one who could do better. Lotta guys don't read the OP comments and just pile on what the next guy says.
I agree but I also know I have more time to do what I do vs some of the guys working for a living and just hitting the reply button (why I'm staff and they aint lol)
 
I agree but I also know I have more time to do what I do vs some of the guys working for a living and just hitting the reply button (why I'm staff and they aint lol)
In my eyes if you don't have the time to give thoughtful advice then why participate? It's fine if your just saying "great job" or something like that but not when giving advice on steroids and hormones, especially to younger people and beginners.
 
In my eyes if you don't have the time to give thoughtful advice then why participate? It's fine if your just saying "great job" or something like that but not when giving advice on steroids and hormones, especially to younger people and beginners.
Some of it is an age and personality thing.

I'll use myself (again lol) as an example. I train 2 x week here and 2x at the local gym. I'm 100% one of the members you can ask for, or offer (without always being asked) advice. I've yet to have that be an issue. Part of that is my time under the bar (43 years), my size (329lbs yesterday), what they see me lift (doesn't actually matter knowledge wise but people think it does) and my actual age (I'm a gray beard lol). But I was kinda like that 50lbs and more bwt wise ago.

Other members here (2 I can think off right now) literally do not talk to ANYONE at the gym. One wants to coach. They also train at a different kind of gym to me. By way of example I was shaking the gym owners hand the 3rd day after I moved to Wales. I get a free coffee most times I go (there's like 2-3 others who do). I've bought kit for them and have purchased other items from them for my home gym. I'm one of the 'family' vs just being a member. Heck they let me train their for 3 years for nothing. And I'm on their wall of fame.

That energy and outlook come across online. People like to act a different way online but eventually you get to know when it's real and not.

Stevesmi and I are a little different off site. Not much but we both have a stupid sense of humor. More than a few pre shows chats will have us laughing and even occasionally during although we're trying to be professional lol
 
i think dylan needs to chill
he likes to cancel people too much but then turns around and calls other people woke or whatever. when he himself is the real woke person trying to cancel people. let monstro do his thing.
 
nobody should tell another man what he can't or can't do with his body
if you are old enough to pick up a gun and go to war then you should be able to use sarms or steroids i mean cmon
 
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