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steroid forums online recommend taking x2 the mg of testosterone as Deca to avoind deca-dick side effects. Can I mitigate these sides using dianabol as my strong androgen to keep my pipi hard during this cycle, or do you think I surely need the testosterone in there. I have had good results using hcgenerate stand alone just for like libido and a little drive and it works so well I got my girl pregnant, and I had sperm count problems before. Now that baby is on the way I want to run a cycle now not feel guilty about not giving my girl a baby. Can I just use hcgen to keep deca dick away on this cycle then, or will I just need the test. My girl is pregnant and gets upset and down if I’m not up for intimacy thinks I’m not into here or whatever chicks think when they are hormonal, so I have to be up for action or it will be an issue and Deca has me afraid of my performance in bed.
OceanusLabs
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I would use a small amount of Test then up the dosage depending on how you go. Start with something like 100 - 150mg week and work it up until you have your libido back. Also make sure you keep your progesterone and estro in check, as these will also kill your libido
riprock713
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From what I have researched I would do test a little higher than Deca, Also I have heard that proviron will basically solve any libido related problems with very minimal suppression.
my opinion isn't popular on forums because the prevalent bro science peddled by online guru's (most of which never even used deca before) is that YOU HAVE TO stack 2X the amount of test with deca.
it is complete bullshit. you can get deca dick with or without stacking test with it
the reason for deca dick is because it is a DDA compound which swamps DHT in the body. so when you run testosterone (or any androgen) it will convert to DHT in small amounts. but the correct thing to do with a deca cycle is to use something like proviron which is pure DHT.. that is what you are supposed to do.
it is complete bullshit. you can get deca dick with or without stacking test with it
the reason for deca dick is because it is a DDA compound which swamps DHT in the body. so when you run testosterone (or any androgen) it will convert to DHT in small amounts. but the correct thing to do with a deca cycle is to use something like proviron which is pure DHT.. that is what you are supposed to do.
there are dudes in the gym who have been on roids 30 years and still don't even know what an AI is. I know cause I am friends with those boneheads and we talk about this shit all the time.
go back and re-read my post as to why test negates deca dick, I explained it very simply for everyone. the bottom line is you don't need to run test 2X as much as deca, that is complete bullshit and I'm tired of hearing it
When you experience it for the first time. You will learn man. I'm just speaking from experience. Nothing drops you're natural test like deca. Maybe proviron will get your dick hard but it won't make you feel more like a man and want to fuck your girl
Thanks,
Big A
Thanks,
Big A
eh we will agree to disagree. I've ran deca and the scare nonsense that is spread on forums is overblown. if you stack in a DHT derivative with it you will be fine and it doesn't aromatize as much as testosterone either. in fact it is great at boosting mood and appetite and its a mild compound with low side effects. people need to stop saying its some harsh steroid like tren because it is not. just because some idiot abused steroids and blamed deca for his dick not working now all we hear on forums is how deca is bad blah blah blah. it has its place for sure, especially if you are trying to bulk and gain strength.. what gets people in trouble is it has a long ester, so guys crash hard after using it cause they do not run a long enough PCT. and then they blame deca for their fuckup, if you don't want to invest in a long pct then simply swap in NPP instead.. shorter ester
PS. the reason I say run proviron with nandrolones always is because proviron has fertility benefits, while nandrolones are anti-fertility drugs. so it offsets. testosterone is NOT a fertility drug like proviron is, hence proviron would be the superior choice to use with deca
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I run test/deca 1:1, right now on test e/deca both at 500. I never have any issues with it. Actually I had worse sides (not deca dick) when running 2:1. Only time I had a issue was when I crashed my E, started getting nipple tingle so upped my aromasin and took my emergency stash of letro and crashed it bad. During my low e stage, the ding dong didn't work very well. But when I have my e in check, my prolactin stays in check without caber and my willy is happy as can be. So moral of story is find out what works for you and do that. Don't listen to me or anyone else, figure out what your body wants. And get bloods, bloods, bloods.
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Agree to disagree but also if you run test and deca run tamofixen (nolvadex) with it to cut out titty fat. But I've only tried proviron twice and it just didn't give me the oomf. I've been with the same girl for 4 years now so I gotta be on my game working all day lol 
Thanks,
Big A
Thanks,
Big A
nolvadex should never be ran with a progestin and it can upregulate progestin receptors.
you should run an AI with it instead.
another reason deca gets a bad rap. people don't know how to run it properly then blame it for their mistakes.
notice that deca started falling out of favor around the time nolva came along as the best alternative (at the time of course) to help with estrogen on cycle. the fact we still have guys using a 30 year old strategy is beyond me.
before then guys would use deca and proviron .. estrogen issues were solved. add nolva then testosterone to the mix and then now suddenly deca causes gyno? yeah okay. and then people continue to peddle that strategy online like its gospel getting more and more people in trouble; its just stubbornness
Deca dick is something that will be talked about forever. Everyone reacts differently to different compounds. I think as long as you are running your AI from day 1 and Caber from day 1, the sides are exaggerated.
Personally, I think that it is best to be reassures, so I always use a higher dosage of test (not necessarily exactly twice as much as deca), and I also use Proviron, as it can only get things better with no side effects at all. Therefore, just try using a good dosage of test with your deca, and not a dosage for a check (like some guys who run 500 mgs of deca and 100 mgs of test). In any case, you can use Proviron, as it is one of the few win-win compounds - with lots of benefits, and no side effects to be concerned with.
