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Designing future cycle

addcd2gains

addcd2gains

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Okay, so some of you might be following my shed log. The main reason I'm dropping all this weight is so I can get to a bf% that I can run aas cycle. I'm currently about 25% bf. Once I get to 10 or 15 I was thinking about running tren/test at 375/250 mgs. I've done the exact same dosages about a year ago, but I won't be getting the same gear. Last time I got it from a dude at the gym, company was called kane pharmaceuticals. That dude disappeared, but I found a new, reliable source online with actual personal reviews. I am 27, 6 foot, and will be around 190lbs when I start the cycle. Last time I was on the juice, I knew absolutely nothing about aas. Didn't know what ancillaries meant, just ate a lot and gained a lot until I tore my rotator cuff. Any suggestions on any other compound I should use? Or even completely different stacks? If I do go with tren ok also stack it with gw to combat cardio side effects. I've heard good things about deca and dianabol. (The tren/sust cycle was my first and only cycle) are either deca or dianabol more preferable to my situation? If so, what do I need to take with whatever cycle I decide to run?

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Why are you talking about cycling? You have another what 6 months before you are even close to THINKING about a cycle.
 
Because last time I did it I was totally unprepared. This time I plan on being very over informed. I promise, I don't touch aas till I'm at, at least 15%bf but I need to have a plan so I can start buying everything I need for a solid 12 week cycle and proper pct

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In your situation, deca and dbol aren't the best choices. I would suggest a shorter, oral based cycle (8 weeks) followed by a 5 week PCT. In this stage of your development, I don't see the need for you to be injected a ton of steroids when you're just not ready for them.
 
wolfpackalpha said:
In your situation, deca and dbol aren't the best choices. I would suggest a shorter, oral based cycle (8 weeks) followed by a 5 week PCT. In this stage of your development, I don't see the need for you to be injected a ton of steroids when you're just not ready for them.
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Yes, I agree, start small, and work up. The Deca and Dbol are a good cycle, with good gains, and then move up. That Tren and Test cycle can be extremely harsh on the Psyche (Roid Rage). I busted up a very good Computer behind that Tren, and I had a lot of experience with AAS cycle's. Plus, you really want to get that BF below 15%, if you want to have a good outcome. There are some great Diet's around these days (one on this very site). I would get that squared away, something you can live with (long term), that's effective. Then you'll be ready, and the guys here will be glad to help..............................JP
 
I agree Wolfpack. Your first cycle didn't go very well because you didn't know what you were doing. Go with a shorter oral cycle to get your feet wet. NTBM just released a new line of Pro-Hormones that look insane. Stack a bottle of that with some SARMS and GW, and the results would be insane.
 
Reps for Jesus said:
I agree Wolfpack. Your first cycle didn't go very well because you didn't know what you were doing. Go with a shorter oral cycle to get your feet wet. NTBM just released a new line of Pro-Hormones that look insane. Stack a bottle of that with some SARMS and GW, and the results would be insane.
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That is a great plan. The new PH line from GK prohormones is perfect for the OP
 
Hmmm, I haven't looked into them but I will. Are they liver toxic? I've always stayed away from orals for that reason?

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jp4355 said:
Yes, I agree, start small, and work up. The Deca and Dbol are a good cycle, with good gains, and then move up. That Tren and Test cycle can be extremely harsh on the Psyche (Roid Rage). I busted up a very good Computer behind that Tren, and I had a lot of experience with AAS cycle's. Plus, you really want to get that BF below 15%, if you want to have a good outcome. There are some great Diet's around these days (one on this very site). I would get that squared away, something you can live with (long term), that's effective. Then you'll be ready, and the guys here will be glad to help..............................JP
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I remember that roid rage factor but I've always been very good at controlling my emotions. I never had a blow up... does it get worse after 4 or 5 weeks? That's how far I made it before tearing my rc. Whatever I do, I want to add 20-30lbs muscle on the cycle. On the tren, I put on 20lbs in 4 weeks. Is that possible on what you guys are recommending? At the very least I wanna run test on the pin...

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I'll give you peoples recommendation a shot, but I really miss that feeling of all that extra test in my system...I've been waiting over a year to get back on the juice

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addcd2gains said:
I remember that roid rage factor but I've always been very good at controlling my emotions. I never had a blow up... does it get worse after 4 or 5 weeks? That's how far I made it before tearing my rc. Whatever I do, I want to add 20-30lbs muscle on the cycle. On the tren, I put on 20lbs in 4 weeks. Is that possible on what you guys are recommending? At the very least I wanna run test on the pin...

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At this point, you have no business with tren/dbol or deca. When you start a cycle it should be a short, oral only steroid cycle as I said before. Do a proper short cycle, run full PCT than we can talk longer cycles. You're not ready for the big time if you haven't played in the little league all the way.
 
wolfpackalpha said:
At this point, you have no business with tren/dbol or deca. When you start a cycle it should be a short, oral only steroid cycle as I said before. Do a proper short cycle, run full PCT than we can talk longer cycles. You're not ready for the big time if you haven't played in the little league all the way.
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What kind of oral steroid? I'm worried about my liver here... hgh or something?

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Reps for Jesus said:
I agree Wolfpack. Your first cycle didn't go very well because you didn't know what you were doing. Go with a shorter oral cycle to get your feet wet. NTBM just released a new line of Pro-Hormones that look insane. Stack a bottle of that with some SARMS and GW, and the results would be insane.
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I don't see any prohirmones at ntbm... just the usual stuff besides hcgeb

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No.. drop weight first. These are basically designer steriods bro. You will be dealing with the same issues with the high bf levels.

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You will be glad you took the high road.. when you get to the lower bf percent, adding Ph/Ds will help take you to the next level

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Shrine said:
You will be glad you took the high road.. when you get to the lower bf percent, adding Ph/Ds will help take you to the next level

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What's the d part? I get the ph (pro hormone, yeah?)

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Designer steriods

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Shrine said:
Designer steriods

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I kinda feel like I'd rather do something tried and true rather than some designer shit.. I may just run test alone at a low dose.. save my liver

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addcd2gains said:
I kinda feel like I'd rather do something tried and true rather than some designer shit.. I may just run test alone at a low dose.. save my liver

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You'd be surprised how good pros are. There are pro combos on the market better than steroids!
 
13bret said:
True that. Most if not all of those good combos dont save the liver as he just mentioned he would like to do though
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if you want to save you liver, use n2guard, otherwise being scared of that in the steroid world is kind of goofy imo
 
The GK line has built in estrogen/liver support.

And these are Designer steroids. Don't mistake them for something bunk. They're methylated to survive the first pass through the liver and some of the compounds don't go through a conversion. These are steroids, the same as Tbol, var, winny, etc and should be treated as so
 
This dude cannot be natural. No way uploadfromtaptalk1389823515387.webp

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