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Is it possible to get lean with dianabol guys?
trying to do an oral only cycle
trying to do an oral only cycle
If you call Lean, 10 lbs of Water Weight, then yes.
Dbol is for Bulking, it's never any good, for Dry Hard Muscle.
If that's what your looking for then, try Winny or Anavar.............................................JP
P.S.
There is one more, but it's Extremely Serious Stuff, and it's only for once you've quite a few Cycle's under your Belt.
Maybe not even then, because it's so Liver Toxic, that I think it's name says it all.
"Halo", don't respect this Oral, and you'll be wearing One !!!
P.S.S.
Personally, I don't like an Oral only Cycle, your setting yourself up, for a lot of Unnecessary Side Effects.
Even a Low dose of Test with any Oral, can avoid this.
Dbol is for Bulking, it's never any good, for Dry Hard Muscle.
If that's what your looking for then, try Winny or Anavar.............................................JP
P.S.
There is one more, but it's Extremely Serious Stuff, and it's only for once you've quite a few Cycle's under your Belt.
Maybe not even then, because it's so Liver Toxic, that I think it's name says it all.
"Halo", don't respect this Oral, and you'll be wearing One !!!
P.S.S.
Personally, I don't like an Oral only Cycle, your setting yourself up, for a lot of Unnecessary Side Effects.
Even a Low dose of Test with any Oral, can avoid this.
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EssieZA
New member
I agree with JP ... again. If you run e.g. a DBol only cycle, eat correctly, train hard and sleep enough, you WILL grow more on it than you would natty ... BUUUUT ... only a smaller % of that growth will be actual muscle. Once you get off the cycle and completed PCT, you'll have lost a lot of size and weight due to all the water you've dropped.
Winny is a better option, but the chances of aching joints are high on it as it dries you out to the point of being a raisin.
Var is your best bet here, but, it's also the more expensive of the 3. Less sides than any of the previous 2 compounds mentioned.
As with anything training related ... diet is key. Always. You can use 2 grams of gear on your cycle and have your diet on a caloric deficit and you will grow, but also not, as you will utilize BF for energy until you reach a state of becoming catabolic instead of anabolic. Then you use the same gear on a surplus diet, and you will grow beyond measure.
Winny is a better option, but the chances of aching joints are high on it as it dries you out to the point of being a raisin.
Var is your best bet here, but, it's also the more expensive of the 3. Less sides than any of the previous 2 compounds mentioned.
As with anything training related ... diet is key. Always. You can use 2 grams of gear on your cycle and have your diet on a caloric deficit and you will grow, but also not, as you will utilize BF for energy until you reach a state of becoming catabolic instead of anabolic. Then you use the same gear on a surplus diet, and you will grow beyond measure.
American-pie
Banned
It can be done with the proper diet and ancillaries. It's by no means ideal, but it can be done. The trouble you will run into is E2, but using adex you can take care of it.
REALLY!!! that seems like an odd choice as well IMO. How did that work out for you?
GringoLoco
New member
I made you a simple math equation
Someone who already needs to cut+Dbol=Aromatose/Estrogen=A more significantly bloated version of said person(possibly with gyno)
Someone who already needs to cut+Dbol=Aromatose/Estrogen=A more significantly bloated version of said person(possibly with gyno)
EssieZA
New member
WOW! Interesting. Without trying to be funny ... and in all sincerity ... HOW?!
devildog
Evolutionary Retired
You guys don't compete do you? Ok... This has been common among the IFBB, and NPC for a long time. Anadrol, while cutting keeps a bodybuilder quite full, i.e., avoiding flatness, helps preserve mass, increases vascularity, water retention is low(er), as you're following a hypocaloric diet, doing cardio, consuming less carbs, helps with insulin sensitivity i.e., the carb up is awesome, gives overall feeling of well being, which helps during the caloric plunge, etc., ill drop it 3 days from the stage, and of course dyazide is always in my toolbox. I've known guys to run it all the way up to the stage, however with the right manipulation of water intake, sodium control, and yes, PROPER diuretic use.
Now, who do I send the bill to for this? Lol!
Now, who do I send the bill to for this? Lol!
fizzisnumerouno
<b>Moderator</b>
I keep reading that 20 mg day total of halo renders the toxicity "overblown." I'd like to hear your take on that.
fizzisnumerouno
<b>Moderator</b>
I'd like your opinion on halo too.
devildog
Evolutionary Retired
I start on halos a week out 20mg/day and I drop the anadrol 3 days out. No, you don't need to run halos for weeks on end in order to get the effects you want, as you'll already be shredded from cutting/conditioning. In case there are more questions, I use 50mg Proviron /day starting the same time as the halos. Masteron 400mgs/week, inj winny 100mg/day, and 100mg test suspension. Yes, masteron is an oil-based inj. So what? I laugh at the drop the oils stuff. What got lost along that statement, should have been drop the oils that aromatize or cause water retention. Water with an oral like anadrol can be manipulated easier than something like deca. None the less, I don't take the risk, as I want to be hard, vascular, and grainy, so I drop the anadrol before the stage as most (but not all), do.
Forgot to add, I used to use teslac, but can't find it like I used to. Now I run 1mg Arimidex up to the stage to keep any water from the suspension at bay.
And yes, listen to jp as for halotestin. It's VERY hepatoxic. Remember, I'm only on this stuff for a very short time. None the less, it's also when I'm at my most UNHEALTHY state via liver, and lipids. Next time you meet a top-level bbyer fresh off the stage, know they've been stressed inside via the protocols, and stress outside, posing all day which is VERY difficult. I hope that covers it. Who do I bill for this?
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fizzisnumerouno
<b>Moderator</b>
What about using halo as a finisher for 4 weeks?
devildog
Evolutionary Retired
Bad idea. Too hepatoxic, and not worth it. I only use it for 7-8 days max.
EssieZA
New member
LOL! No, I don't compete. Would've loved to, but the cost of competing is more than my budget can possibly carry.
Interesting indeed. I have always been exposed to Anadrol as a bulking 'wet' compound to use in place of DBol, for instance, though I've always kinda 'knew' that, with proper manipulation of various external factors, you CAN use ANY steroid to both and either bulk or cut.
Admitted some compounds probably are more suited for certain aspects,
Will you accept endless gratitude as settlement for the bill? Seeing that I am the one who asked you the 'How" question ... LOL!
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