VS Battle Dirt vs Rhino UGL

[Eddie Haskell]

Since every thread in the community somehow devolved into a Dirt vs Rhino fight or someone vs Rhino.

Rules going forward

• This thread will be open discussion between @Dirt and @RhinoUGL
• Both of you Dirt and Rhino are ONLY allowed to discuss your beef in this thread
• If you beef in other threads, you will be given warning points and possible time outs
• To repeat, if either of you start beef with the other in ANY other thread but this, you will be timed out for 72 hours

Dirt
You made good points in other thread you can discuss them here.

Rhino
If you want to defend your lab and prove you're a quality brand you can do that here. Start with proving your beligas is legit.
You will have to defend your brand and reputation here in the open.

Mod team suggestions: @Noah Wixx @Mobster @stevesmi @LevButlerov @Pigsy @Npcclassicphysique champ

 

[RhinoUGL]

 

[RhinoUGL]

 

[Dusbrah]

I have seen these rules before, are we playing Max Max ThunderDome, who wants to play as mad Max and who wants to play as that big strong retard???

 

[RhinoUGL]

There's no battle.

I've provided everything they and you asked for @Eddie Haskell

We are sending out samples to one member on here, any takers happy to send out another sample, any members on here who are well known are welcome to review and post product authentication. Will also forward tracking you guys can see for yourselves Beligas is Domestic and products are legit

Dirt has tried to call us out multiple times and failed. From the start he thought we were another lab and accused us of being such. I don't think he genuinely thought we were out to get people, I think he thought we were another lab that he had personal beef with because of some names we have in our product list which were thought of in literally a second. He's made a lot of claims but has Zero evidence of anything to back anything up that he has said so Im not sure how you can say he made any good points Eddie, the most he had when asked if he had any evidence of us being a scammer was something along the lines of "Of coarse he’s lying . He’s whacked a sticker on some bullshit oil he bought from china."

Quick summary of events for you:

Nothing but false claims.
Dirt 'Your a scam' (has never tried us before or seen anyone saying we're a scam)
Rhino: No we are not
Dirt 'Yes you are look at you' (gets warned multiple times by mods and breaching TOS says he is going to stay off our threads)
Rhino ....
Dirt 'Yes you are prove yourselves (buys 100 vial caps starts his own homebrew for personal use and jokes about it with another vendor)'
Rhino: Sends photos
Dirt 'Prove yourselves more'
Rhino: Sends more photos, shows as Official Vendor on Beligas official site
Dirt 'Looks dodgy. Not good enough i need more'
Rhino: Sends more photos with verification codes & photos, all verified authentic.
Dirt "Could have been from anyone"
Rhino: Sends another photo showing same vials with same authentication codes and RhinoUGL & Evolutionary.org written on paper in another photo reminds Dirt of all the photos we have already sent
Dirt "I can go down down to Beirut and buy a newspaper fresh of the press"
Rhino: We are Verified, Authentic & Domestic
Dirt "No one likes you"
Rhino: Happy to send free gear to a customer who wants to log, hit us up on Sessions, we value your privacy.
Dirt "Your thirsty as fuck"


His response

"
I’m bored .
Your old news now.
Next ."

This guy has photos of himself and pictures posted up everywhere and he's openly telling people he's brewing up some of his stuff soon and wants to tell us that we are a security risk. This guy is a risk to himself.

 

[Dirt]

I have seen these rules before, are we playing Max Max ThunderDome, who wants to play as mad Max and who wants to play as that big strong retard???

I’m probably the big strong retard. You know I like to play that role

 

[Dirt]

There's no battle.

I've provided everything they and you asked for @Eddie Haskell

We are sending out samples to one member on here, any takers happy to send out another sample, any members on here who are well known are welcome to review and post product authentication. Will also forward tracking you guys can see for yourselves Beligas is Domestic and products are legit

Dirt has tried to call us out multiple times and failed. From the start he thought we were another lab and accused us of being such. I don't think he genuinely thought we were out to get people, I think he thought we were another lab that he had personal beef with because of some names we have in our product list which were thought of in literally a second. He's made a lot of claims but has Zero evidence of anything to back anything up that he has said so Im not sure how you can say he made any good points Eddie, the most he had when asked if he had any evidence of us being a scammer was something along the lines of "Of coarse he’s lying . He’s whacked a sticker on some bullshit oil he bought from china."

Quick summary of events for you:

Nothing but false claims.
Dirt 'Your a scam' (has never tried us before or seen anyone saying we're a scam)
Rhino: No we are not
Dirt 'Yes you are look at you' (gets warned multiple times by mods and breaching TOS says he is going to stay off our threads)
Rhino ....
Dirt 'Yes you are prove yourselves (buys 100 vial caps starts his own homebrew for personal use and jokes about it with another vendor)'
Rhino: Sends photos
Dirt 'Prove yourselves more'
Rhino: Sends more photos, shows as Official Vendor on Beligas official site
Dirt 'Looks dodgy. Not good enough i need more'
Rhino: Sends more photos with verification codes & photos, all verified authentic.
Dirt "Could have been from anyone"
Rhino: Sends another photo showing same vials with same authentication codes and RhinoUGL & Evolutionary.org written on paper in another photo reminds Dirt of all the photos we have already sent
Dirt "I can go down down to Beirut and buy a newspaper fresh of the press"
Rhino: We are Verified, Authentic & Domestic
Dirt "No one likes you"
Rhino: Happy to send free gear to a customer who wants to log, hit us up on Sessions, we value your privacy.
Dirt "Your thirsty as fuck"


His response

"
I’m bored .
Your old news now.
Next ."

This guy has photos of himself and pictures posted up everywhere and he's openly telling people he's brewing up some of his stuff soon and wants to tell us that we are a security risk. This guy is a risk to himself.

I think your shit . So does everyone else .
Why are you only focusing on what I think?
I’m the lowest most vile person here . I have no friends and my opinion don’t matter .
However , every other well respected member of the Aussie community think your shit too .
No one cares what I think , why do you ?
Go convince the rest of the forum you shit .

 

[RhinoUGL]

I think your shit . So does everyone else .
Why are you only focusing on what I think?
I’m the lowest most vile person here . I have no friends and my opinion don’t matter .
However , every other well respected member of the Aussie community think your shit too .
No one cares what I think , why do you ?
Go convince the rest of the forum you shit .

Educated response, love it Dirt. However, funny enough. I do care what you think, your opinion matters to us believe it or not. Look I am not trying to win you over. We are all about customer service, but you are not a customer are you, you're an aspiring Vendor looking to jump on board with other Vendors who are the "well known members" you speak of (who's names I won't mention). But I won't stand by idly while you target us at every single instance or chance that you get when you haven't bothered to try our products out and your intention is not to serve the community but to serve a damaged Ego as a result from your dealings with a previous Vendor you had issues with that became personal. I'm sure we would have got along fine if you didn't assume we were someone we are not.

 

[Noah Wixx]

Good man posting the codes and the products showing they are authentic and verified belgias, that is all i wanted and needed to see, thank you for posting that and honoring pur requests, at the end of the day members getting a high quality legitimate product and being safe about it is our main priorities.

Maybe you can expand on elaboration of how domestic is your domestic line, i wont mention the source I use, it is evo verified with a long track record being proven in the evo community.

It takes the source i go through 24-48 hours from time of ordering till the product reaches me and tracking number provided in record time as well, maybe it will help others reading this so they can better understand you and what your lab is all about.

 

[Dirt]

Educated response, love it Dirt. However, funny enough. I do care what you think, your opinion matters to us believe it or not. Look I am not trying to win you over. We are all about customer service, but you are not a customer are you, you're an aspiring Vendor looking to jump on board with other Vendors who are the "well known members" you speak of (who's names I won't mention). But I won't stand by idly while you target us at every single instance or chance that you get when you haven't bothered to try our products out and your intention is not to serve the community but to serve a damaged Ego as a result from your dealings with a previous Vendor you had issues with that became personal. I'm sure we would have got along fine if you didn't assume we were someone we are not.

lol . Aspiring vendor ?

Jumping on board with other vendors ?
See ? See how you come here thinking you know it all ?
If you had any idea about the politics here you’d realise how wrong you are about me and others here .
I have some friends yes .
But I have a lot more that hate me .
Why ?
Ask them . You will end up in there club one day .

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Good man posting the codes and the products showing they are authentic and verified belgias, that is all i wanted and needed to see, thank you for posting that and honoring pur requests, at the end of the day members getting a high quality legitimate product and being safe about it is our main priorities.

Maybe you can expand on elaboration of how domestic is your domestic line, i wont mention the source I use, it is evo verified with a long track record being proven in the evo community.

It takes the source i go through 24-48 hours from time of ordering till the product reaches me and tracking number provided in record time as well, maybe it will help others reading this so they can better understand you and what your lab is all about.

I got DMs guys saying Rhino might exit scam or something like that. I dont understand how. seems any of these sources can.
dirt you can chime in @Dirt

 

[Dirt]

I got DMs guys saying Rhino might exit scam or something like that. I dont understand how. seems any of these sources can.
dirt you can chime in @Dirt

To be honest , I wouldn’t accuse anyone of exit scamming , there just no money in something like that , think about all the time and effort he has spent here all for what ? A couple thousand ?
That kind of stuff just doesn’t lay long before your caught out .

My concern , is the lies , the attitude that he had coming in thinking he was better than everyone.
The attitude that his gear was better than the gear we have here .
The claim that he has 100 % success rate of steroids coming in from over seas .
The bragging about “stealth packaging “
I haven’t even heard that term being used since about 10 years ago .
If he had been humble about things , honest and just be himself rather than use chat gpt to talk down on us , this never would have happened.
Here in Australia, we don’t like that kind of attitude.

when you act this way ….. we see it as your trying to hide something .
He’s not the first to act in this exact manner .
And he wasn’t be the last .
What I’m trying to say , is we support the average grassroots guy here .
One of the boys . We always will .
Do you know how many of the vendors here on this forum behind the scenes have helped each other out in times of need etc ?
There are things that can’t be talked about in open for obvious reasons .
But honestly you would be very proud of the brotherhood that exists behind the scenes amongst alot of the vendors .
Not my place to speak in it though

 

[Eddie Haskell]

To be honest , I wouldn’t accuse anyone of exit scamming , there just no money in something like that , think about all the time and effort he has spent here all for what ? A couple thousand ?
That kind of stuff just doesn’t lay long before your caught out .

My concern , is the lies , the attitude that he had coming in thinking he was better than everyone.
The attitude that his gear was better than the gear we have here .
The claim that he has 100 % success rate of steroids coming in from over seas .
The bragging about “stealth packaging “
I haven’t even heard that term being used since about 10 years ago .
If he had been humble about things , honest and just be himself rather than use chat gpt to talk down on us , this never would have happened.
Here in Australia, we don’t like that kind of attitude.

when you act this way ….. we see it as your trying to hide something .
He’s not the first to act in this exact manner .
And he wasn’t be the last .
What I’m trying to say , is we support the average grassroots guy here .
One of the boys . We always will .
Do you know how many of the vendors here on this forum behind the scenes have helped each other out in times of need etc ?
There are things that can’t be talked about in open for obvious reasons .
But honestly you would be very proud of the brotherhood that exists behind the scenes amongst alot of the vendors .
Not my place to speak in it though

honest case made from an EVO family member

rhino can respond here

 

[Grumpy]

Honesty guys all due respect but I don't see how having a battle post @RhinoUGL vs @Dirt is going to solve or make either the vendor or anyone look any better or worse it's just a war of words inciting more crap talk that personally I think there is enough of on here already
Just my opinion for what it's worth
@Eddie Haskell maybe there is a more constructive way to sort these kind of things out

 

[RhinoUGL]

So in regards to the 'lies'

I am referencing https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/exodus-labs-price-list.101749/page-3#post-1636516 Please see the post here and follow the thread.

Dirt you're quite clearly looking to offload some stuff. You made that public and even offered to send some out. What's the name of the new lab your starting mate? This makes me question your intentions, once again the veil of 'he came in here thinking he's better then everyone else' or 'bad attitude' simply doesn't fit any of anything you've said. That and you think we are a security risk while your openly telling people in a public forum you're brewing your own gear and disclosing in a round about way where vendors may be purchasing their vial kits from in Condel park could lead to a search warrant not just for you but for the company supplying the vial kits, vendors details/addresses now exposed. Your face is all over your profile and other information to that could land you in some serious trouble. Especially with your history with other groups, I won't go into the allegations there but if you have a lot of people that have it out for you like you say, its only a matter of time. You should learn when to speak and when to shut your mouth. Facts.

You have provided Zero evidence of anything you have accused us of. We have provided evidence of everything.

What lies are talking about exactly? Please point them out so I can address each one of theses points and clear anything up.

How about we talk more about the Facts.

Domestic Vendors on here have been experiencing an unusually high amount of seizures, we have none, thats facts my friend. If that makes us better then everyone else I'll happily take that title, but the claim you were making up until now was that we were a scam, now all of a sudden you have changed your tune? So now its not that we are a scam its because we think we are better then everyone else? Because its good enough for the mods and finally now its good enough for you? You have been trying to call us out on literally everything since we got here and failed every single time, once again facts.

 

[Dirt]

Honesty guys all due respect but I don't see how having a battle post @RhinoUGL vs @Dirt is going to solve or make either the vendor or anyone look any better or worse it's just a war of words inciting more crap talk that personally I think there is enough of on here already
Just my opinion for what it's worth
@Eddie Haskell maybe there is a more constructive way to sort these kind of things out

I think the idea was to stop all the arguing from spilling out all over the forum .
The way I see it it’s an attempt to control with out infringing in freedom of speech
honestly, I don’t feel I need to argue with rhino .
It’s not personal, never was , and propel have eyes and can see for themselves .
I’ll admit , I’ve had my fun , I’ve also explained why I feel the way I do.
I think now it’s time to move on . At this point it’s just bullying.
Besides , he’s delusional….. he’s convinced I’m trying to become a vendor for fucks sake just cause I offered to send you a few vials ……..
I been giving away and selling vials for a while now , never intended on vending .
I just like to brew and I’m proud of what I make and like people to try it .
Plus it’s cool to help people out .
Him …….. he’s a grub that’s desperate .
I think it’s time we just ignore him .
And if we see him target some unaware person , it’s only fair we warn that person .
At the end of the day , the writing is on the wall and if people choose to buy without doing some research ……. That’s on them .

 

[Dirt]

So in regards to the 'lies'

I am referencing https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/exodus-labs-price-list.101749/page-3#post-1636516 Please see the post here and follow the thread.

Dirt you're quite clearly looking to offload some stuff. You made that public and even offered to send some out. What's the name of the new lab your starting mate? This makes me question your intentions, once again the veil of 'he came in here thinking he's better then everyone else' or 'bad attitude' simply doesn't fit any of anything you've said. That and you think we are a security risk while your openly telling people in a public forum you're brewing your own gear and disclosing in a round about way where vendors may be purchasing their vial kits from in Condel park could lead to a search warrant not just for you but for the company supplying the vial kits, vendors details/addresses now exposed. Your face is all over your profile and other information to that could land you in some serious trouble. Especially with your history with other groups, I won't go into the allegations there but if you have a lot of people that have it out for you like you say, its only a matter of time. You should learn when to speak and when to shut your mouth. Facts.

You have provided Zero evidence of anything you have accused us of. We have provided evidence of everything.

What lies are talking about exactly? Please point them out so I can address each one of theses points and clear anything up.

How about we talk more about the Facts.

Domestic Vendors on here have been experiencing an unusually high amount of seizures, we have none, thats facts my friend. If that makes us better then everyone else I'll happily take that title, but the claim you were making up until now was that we were a scam, now all of a sudden you have changed your tune? So now its not that we are a scam its because we think we are better then everyone else? Because its good enough for the mods and finally now its good enough for you? You have been trying to call us out on literally everything since we got here and failed every single time, once again facts.

No sales …. Of coarse no seizures.
That’s like me saying I’m an undefeated cage fighter .
Never had a fight yet though .
Seriously , cut down on the Shabz mate . Your being weird

 

[RhinoUGL]

I think the idea was to stop all the arguing from spilling out all over the forum .
The way I see it it’s an attempt to control with out infringing in freedom of speech
honestly, I don’t feel I need to argue with rhino .
It’s not personal, never was , and propel have eyes and can see for themselves .
I’ll admit , I’ve had my fun , I’ve also explained why I feel the way I do.
I think now it’s time to move on . At this point it’s just bullying.
Besides , he’s delusional….. he’s convinced I’m trying to become a vendor for fucks sake just cause I offered to send you a few vials ……..
I been giving away and selling vials for a while now , never intended on vending .
I just like to brew and I’m proud of what I make and like people to try it .
Plus it’s cool to help people out .
Him …….. he’s a grub that’s desperate .
I think it’s time we just ignore him .
And if we see him target some unaware person , it’s only fair we warn that person .
At the end of the day , the writing is on the wall and if people choose to buy without doing some research ……. That’s on them .

Never personal? You're brewing and selling hundreds of vials but your not a vendor?

Case closed.

What exactly are you going to warn people about? That we have a bad attitude in your eyes? lol What research?

You're argument makes Zero sense. And although I don't think starting a thread with anyone on this forum vs Rhino UGL is the best idea, I'm happy they did so people can see for themselves, when they do their research on you.

You are a liability to this forum and other vendors.

 

[Grumpy]

I think the idea was to stop all the arguing from spilling out all over the forum .
The way I see it it’s an attempt to control with out infringing in freedom of speech
honestly, I don’t feel I need to argue with rhino .
It’s not personal, never was , and propel have eyes and can see for themselves .
I’ll admit , I’ve had my fun , I’ve also explained why I feel the way I do.
I think now it’s time to move on . At this point it’s just bullying.
Besides , he’s delusional….. he’s convinced I’m trying to become a vendor for fucks sake just cause I offered to send you a few vials ……..
I been giving away and selling vials for a while now , never intended on vending .
I just like to brew and I’m proud of what I make and like people to try it .
Plus it’s cool to help people out .
Him …….. he’s a grub that’s desperate .
I think it’s time we just ignore him .
And if we see him target some unaware person , it’s only fair we warn that person .
At the end of the day , the writing is on the wall and if people choose to buy without doing some research ……. That’s on them .

Fair enough I see your point
Do think it's over and done with now
We can all move on

 

[Dirt]

Never personal? You're brewing and selling hundreds of vials but your not a vendor?

Case closed.

What exactly are you going to warn people about? That we have a bad attitude in your eyes? lol What research?

You're argument makes Zero sense. And although I don't think starting a thread with anyone on this forum vs Rhino UGL, I'm happy they did so people can see for themselves, when they do their research on you.

You are a liability to this forum.

Didn’t read lol