DNP + SARMS cutting cycle

[Gymer]

So heya everyone. I wanted your opinion on the below DNP (2,4-Dinitrophenol) cutting cycle. Now I know there will be haters and we all get that dnp is bad etc, but please for once don't say shit about how bad it is for you. I simply don't care. This is for info on the cycle, not the meds them selves unless it has to do with combinings.

So first things first the diet:
1800 cals with low carbs (I hear from experienced users of DNP that low carbs will reduce the harshness of the drug)
Im dropping the cals this low because its a short cycle of 10 days ON DNP. Average intake on cutting cycles is 2000 and will resume it that high after the 10 days

Reason why I wanted to include SARMS is to tighten up my muscles (DNP softens them) and shed a little more fat if needed, so cycle length of SARMS may change according to personal body preference. Plus I like the extra veins haha.

Dosages:

DNP at 200mg for 5 days then 400mg for another 5 days (10 days total)

After the 10 days:
S4 at 50mg ED for 8 weeks
Cardarine 20mg ED for 8 weeks.

Now what I want to know:

Should I rather start the SARMS when I start the dnp, but keep the same run lengths?
Are SARMS even necessary? such as will they help or not make a noticeable difference

ONLY comment on the following question If YOU HAVE USED DNP BEFORE:
Will having a low carb diet help reduce the heat side effects? (thinking around 100g carbs ED in the morning (50g) and before workout (50g))

 

[Jay Scott]

So heya everyone. I wanted your opinion on the below DNP (2,4-Dinitrophenol) cutting cycle. Now I know there will be haters and we all get that dnp is bad etc, but please for once don't say shit about how bad it is for you. I simply don't care. This is for info on the cycle, not the meds them selves unless it has to do with combinings.

So first things first the diet:
1800 cals with low carbs (I hear from experienced users of DNP that low carbs will reduce the harshness of the drug)
Im dropping the cals this low because its a short cycle of 10 days ON DNP. Average intake on cutting cycles is 2000 and will resume it that high after the 10 days

Reason why I wanted to include SARMS is to tighten up my muscles (DNP softens them) and shed a little more fat if needed, so cycle length of SARMS may change according to personal body preference. Plus I like the extra veins haha.

Dosages:

DNP at 200mg for 5 days then 400mg for another 5 days (10 days total)

After the 10 days:
S4 at 50mg ED for 8 weeks
Cardarine 20mg ED for 8 weeks.

Now what I want to know:

Should I rather start the SARMS when I start the dnp, but keep the same run lengths?
Are SARMS even necessary? such as will they help or not make a noticeable difference

ONLY comment on the following question If YOU HAVE USED DNP BEFORE:
Will having a low carb diet help reduce the heat side effects? (thinking around 100g carbs ED in the morning (50g) and before workout (50g))

Cardarine helps with the lethargy on DNP a lot, trust me on this one.

Also, the lower carbs will provide less heat waves and sweating, but keep in mind that you will feel more exhausted.

Finally, make sure to keep water, potassium and magnesium intake as high as possible. No diuretics/alcohol while using dnp.

 

[KronarSZ]

That seems to be a decent DNP cycle as I would take 600 to 800 mg in the past. It all depends on your heat tolerance though. But at that level your side effects will be tolerable for sure. What is your bodyweight and fat percentage? SARMS will help for sure as the main issue you can have with DNP is losing muscle along with the fat. IF you can stick to a strict diet of 1800 calories that is ideal as the more carbs you eat the worse the heat gets. Make sure you have your AC on at work and at night and if not you need a desktop fan for sure. All your bodily fluids will turn yellow too. It takes around 5 days to buildup so don't double the dose thinking that it is not working because it will be. That is what kills the people that die from it as once you get over a certain amount you cook yourself from the inside out.

 

[stevesmi]

sarm's can be stacked with harsh drugs without adding to side effects, but you MUST use legit sarms!! this is important.

second I am not sure who told you to avoid carbs and cals on DNP but they misled you. when you take in carbs on it you will sweat because it is literally burning up those carbs that fast. it isn't a slow process, so by all means get in your normal carbs and cals. no reason to be scared of sweating, plus sweating is your bodies way to cool itself down so embrace sweating, just replace your nutrients and water.

to take most advantage of DNP you must exercise on it, that is where the magic happens. DNP will burn up your fat stores quickly when you exercise. it will make your typical workout 2X more fat burning effective, so you can do cardio at half intensity and get same results.

and they key to avoiding sides on DNP?

1. DRINK A SHIT TON OF COLD WATER
2. STAY OUT OF THE HEAT AND STAY COLD
3. eat your normal diet, don't get stupid and starve yourself

take a cold bath a couple times per day and have plenty of ice water at your disposal .. hell you can even wear a wet shirt and blast the fan on you. that will keep your body cool .. the russians would take DNP during WW11 when they were out in the cold to stay warm.

also i hope you have a good source for that DNP. you don't want to accidentally take the wrong dosage

and i agree with Jay, you better not be using diuretics or alcohol on the stuff..

 

[muskate]

I personally don't think DNP is a smart idea at all but if you want to use it, that is your decision.

I would use the SARMS at the same time as using the DNP. The cardarine will help immensely with reducing side effects from DNP.

Carbs stimulate the metabolism and can raise internal body core temperature. A low carb diet will help reduce the heat side effects of DNP. Also make sure to stay adequately hydrated and keep your electrolytes up. I would also supplement with the amino acid taurine during your workout.

While on DNP, don't risk going into the sauna or things like that.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

I would run the SARMS right from the beginning. They will definitely enhance fat loss as well as help fight off some of the lethargy. I would also look up the log on a DNP cycle that the forum member "raptor" just did. It was a very detailed log as far as his diet, DNP, and training. I will try to find it and link it for you.

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http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/i-m-back-dnp-log-47126.html

 

[LevButlerov]

SARMS would definitely be a good addition to a cycle with DNP, since they will enhance fat loss even more, and they will help with DNP's side effects. For instance, cardarine would be quite an awesome thing to use in order to reduce the fatigue. Given the fact that all of those compounds will help with fat loss, I don't think that there is a need for fanatic dieting, so make sure to eat enough to have the energy you need.

Obviously, in spite of the fact that Cardarine will help with some of DNP's side effects, you need to make sure that you stay cool, and drink plenty of water, since DNP can warm you up.

 

[KronarSZ]

DNP can be easily bought from www.aliexpress.com as well. Just use the search function and choose a supplier with a high rating. I bought 1kg of it for 150 bucks Australian. Got through customs as well. Supplied me and all my friends and still going strong.

If you do use it just be really careful though as it is the most dangerous weight loss drug out there (when used incorrectly).