Does 17-alpha-methylestradiol show as estradiol?

[GoldenPlague]

17-alpha-methylestradiol is the synthetic estradiol that comes from dianabol. I'm still trying to find out how much, usually, synthetic estradiol comes from a 10 mg pill.

So, if I'm on testosterone and dianabol, and I want to check my estradiol to see if it's too high, can I just order the typical estradiol test people usually do when on testosterone only, or do I have to specifically say I want to test 17-alpha-methylestradiol? I mean, does the synthetic estradiol show as just estradiol on blood test results?

On 200 and 300 mg testosterone a week, my estradiol level is within normal range. The problem is that I don't know if this is an indication that I'm NOT going to get gyno if I use dianabol without AIs, because gyno can be caused by different pathways such as the synthetic estradiol that may not shows as estradiol on blood test results. In this case, gyno won't be caused by my normal estradiol levels, but by my elevated synthetic estradiol levels.

Also, I don't know how potent the synthetic estradiol exactly is. For example, is a 20 mg dianabol dose a day high enough to cause a high elevation of the synthetic estradiol to the point where gynecomastia can occur?

For now, I'm using only tamoxifen for preemptive purposes. Tamoxifen occupies estrogen receptors in the chest, making them unavailable to estradiol and its synthetic version. So, if estradiol and the synthetic version are not too high, using only tamoxifen without AIs will be able to prevent possible gyno.

I have anastrozole on hand, but I don't want to use AIs unless I get high estrogen symptoms. If estrogen is at upper end or just a little bit elevated, AIs aren't worth the risk. Tamoxifen will do just fine, I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, to get some average estimations, can you, guys, tell me how much dianabol you have used without also using AIs, and at what dose estrogenic side effects appeared in your case?

Thanks.

 

[RickRock]

The thing is theres no one answer. I can get away without an ai ever, but many need one even with lower levels of test

 

[RoidRage69]

Why not start a log?

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

17-alpha-methylestradiol is the synthetic estradiol that comes from dianabol. I'm still trying to find out how much, usually, synthetic estradiol comes from a 10 mg pill.

So, if I'm on testosterone and dianabol, and I want to check my estradiol to see if it's too high, can I just order the typical estradiol test people usually do when on testosterone only, or do I have to specifically say I want to test 17-alpha-methylestradiol? I mean, does the synthetic estradiol show as just estradiol on blood test results?

On 200 and 300 mg testosterone a week, my estradiol level is within normal range. The problem is that I don't know if this is an indication that I'm NOT going to get gyno if I use dianabol without AIs, because gyno can be caused by different pathways such as the synthetic estradiol that may not shows as estradiol on blood test results. In this case, gyno won't be caused by my normal estradiol levels, but by my elevated synthetic estradiol levels.

Also, I don't know how potent the synthetic estradiol exactly is. For example, is a 20 mg dianabol dose a day high enough to cause a high elevation of the synthetic estradiol to the point where gynecomastia can occur?

For now, I'm using only tamoxifen for preemptive purposes. Tamoxifen occupies estrogen receptors in the chest, making them unavailable to estradiol and its synthetic version. So, if estradiol and the synthetic version are not too high, using only tamoxifen without AIs will be able to prevent possible gyno.

I have anastrozole on hand, but I don't want to use AIs unless I get high estrogen symptoms. If estrogen is at upper end or just a little bit elevated, AIs aren't worth the risk. Tamoxifen will do just fine, I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, to get some average estimations, can you, guys, tell me how much dianabol you have used without also using AIs, and at what dose estrogenic side effects appeared in your case?

Thanks.

@GoldenPlague you already told us you're using clomid
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/50-mg-clomid-a-day-at-once-or-separated-doses.97774/
so which is it? you on cycle or on clomid

 

[Mobster]

17-alpha-methylestradiol is the synthetic estradiol that comes from dianabol. I'm still trying to find out how much, usually, synthetic estradiol comes from a 10 mg pill.

So, if I'm on testosterone and dianabol, and I want to check my estradiol to see if it's too high, can I just order the typical estradiol test people usually do when on testosterone only, or do I have to specifically say I want to test 17-alpha-methylestradiol? I mean, does the synthetic estradiol show as just estradiol on blood test results?

On 200 and 300 mg testosterone a week, my estradiol level is within normal range. The problem is that I don't know if this is an indication that I'm NOT going to get gyno if I use dianabol without AIs, because gyno can be caused by different pathways such as the synthetic estradiol that may not shows as estradiol on blood test results. In this case, gyno won't be caused by my normal estradiol levels, but by my elevated synthetic estradiol levels.

Also, I don't know how potent the synthetic estradiol exactly is. For example, is a 20 mg dianabol dose a day high enough to cause a high elevation of the synthetic estradiol to the point where gynecomastia can occur?

For now, I'm using only tamoxifen for preemptive purposes. Tamoxifen occupies estrogen receptors in the chest, making them unavailable to estradiol and its synthetic version. So, if estradiol and the synthetic version are not too high, using only tamoxifen without AIs will be able to prevent possible gyno.

I have anastrozole on hand, but I don't want to use AIs unless I get high estrogen symptoms. If estrogen is at upper end or just a little bit elevated, AIs aren't worth the risk. Tamoxifen will do just fine, I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, to get some average estimations, can you, guys, tell me how much dianabol you have used without also using AIs, and at what dose estrogenic side effects appeared in your case?

Thanks.

This all contradicts your other posts about what you're using.

 

[stevesmi]

dbol aromatizes into estrogen fast. if you are worried about E issues then don't use it. there are other steorids

 

[GoldenPlague]

@GoldenPlague you already told us you're using clomid
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/50-mg-clomid-a-day-at-once-or-separated-doses.97774/
so which is it? you on cycle or on clomid

The thread you mentioned is old. Several weeks ago, I decided to start actual steroid cycles.

 

[GoldenPlague]

This all contradicts your other posts about what you're using.

I using what I'm using, but I want to increase doses. But 17-alpha-methylestradiol is what makes me fearful now.

I'm trying to find a way how to know the level of synthetic estradiol so I can manage it easier.

 

[GoldenPlague]

dbol aromatizes into estrogen fast. if you are worried about E issues then don't use it. there are other steorids

The speed of aromatization is not a problem for me. The problem is the quality (level) of 17-alpha-methylestradiol it will cause.

I'm trying to find out how much 17-alpha-methylestradiol will be produced by 20 mg of dianabol, and how of the hormone it takes for gynecomastia to occur. If I know this, I will know what to do.

Also, as I already said in the original post, I don't know if 17-alpha-methylestradiol shows as just estradiol on blood test results or I have to specifically say I want to test 17-alpha-methylestradiol in order to get results about the level of the hormone.

 

[ceo]

bros use aromasin with it

 

[ROIDDERS]

you have no business using it

 

[chesty]

if you're that worried then why even you steroids at all

 

[Ulter]

that's why you always keep ancillaries on hand

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

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[e2]

if something goes wrong then you need to run letro asap

 

[2Thick]

you will not get success on dbol if you are prone to gyno

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

we are waiting to see your log why don't you try it and log it daily

 

[MONSTRO]

monstro doesn't understand why you are so worried about everything

 

[JasonPriest]

you will be fine on dbol. it just don't run more than 20 milligrams

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro if you run a lot of dbol you gonna have bloat