Does 17-alpha-methylestradiol show as estradiol?

[Quadsweep]

i don't see what the big deal is. either run it or don't

 

[RoidRage69]

You overthink everything too much.

 

[GoldenPlague]

you will be fine on dbol. it just don't run more than 20 milligrams

Okay. I will start with 5 mg a day, and slowly increase to 20. That way I will see at what dose exactly side effects begin.

 

[GoldenPlague]

i don't see what the big deal is. either run it or don't

Gynecomastia is the big problem... I don't want to get gynecomastia from 17-alpha-methylestradiol, which is why I'm asking for instructions about how to keep track on that hormone.

 

[Mobster]

No it doesn't. Because two threads, both recent (inc this one) contradict each other

 

[VMfreaks]

17-alpha-methylestradiol is the synthetic estradiol that comes from dianabol. I'm still trying to find out how much, usually, synthetic estradiol comes from a 10 mg pill.

So, if I'm on testosterone and dianabol, and I want to check my estradiol to see if it's too high, can I just order the typical estradiol test people usually do when on testosterone only, or do I have to specifically say I want to test 17-alpha-methylestradiol? I mean, does the synthetic estradiol show as just estradiol on blood test results?

On 200 and 300 mg testosterone a week, my estradiol level is within normal range. The problem is that I don't know if this is an indication that I'm NOT going to get gyno if I use dianabol without AIs, because gyno can be caused by different pathways such as the synthetic estradiol that may not shows as estradiol on blood test results. In this case, gyno won't be caused by my normal estradiol levels, but by my elevated synthetic estradiol levels.

Also, I don't know how potent the synthetic estradiol exactly is. For example, is a 20 mg dianabol dose a day high enough to cause a high elevation of the synthetic estradiol to the point where gynecomastia can occur?

For now, I'm using only tamoxifen for preemptive purposes. Tamoxifen occupies estrogen receptors in the chest, making them unavailable to estradiol and its synthetic version. So, if estradiol and the synthetic version are not too high, using only tamoxifen without AIs will be able to prevent possible gyno.

I have anastrozole on hand, but I don't want to use AIs unless I get high estrogen symptoms. If estrogen is at upper end or just a little bit elevated, AIs aren't worth the risk. Tamoxifen will do just fine, I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, to get some average estimations, can you, guys, tell me how much dianabol you have used without also using AIs, and at what dose estrogenic side effects appeared in your case?

Thanks.

Make sure to ask your doctor to test both "regular estradiol" and "17-alpha-methylestradiol" while you're on test and dbol. This will help you get a more accurate result as synthetic estradiol from dianabol may not show up in regular tests.

To prevent gyno, take tamoxifen.

Dianabol dosages can vary from person to person. Some people can handle higher doses without taking AIs, while others may experience estrogenic side effects even at lower doses. It's a trial-and-error process, so start with a low dose and see how your body reacts.

 

[25homes]

This is impossible to answer. Everyone diff

 

[GoldenPlague]

This is impossible to answer. Everyone diff

Yeah, I'm going to find out. I will start with 5 mg a day, and increase by additional 5 mg every 7 days after a self-examination of the nipples area.

I will be taking tamoxifen, of course. I'm already on 20 mg a day. The T dose is 200 mg, but from tomorrow, it will be 250 mg.

Thanks.

 

[Noah Wixx]

Why do you over analyze and think about things way way to much into the point of fear and paranoia, load the syringe shoot it done deal, open the sachet take the pill down done deal, it really is that simple.

 

[ballin2504]

Right!!!!!

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

Let us know how it goes.....

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

You just have to manage estrogen by getting blood work and using an AI like aromasin.