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Does HGH make you tired?

LeakingCoffee

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Hello dear fellows,

I am going to start this new stack for fat loss. My concern is especially with fatigue, that I don't want to feel when using this stack. So I am thinking either to add HGH or Tesamorline for keeping me energetic? But someone told me, that HGH will make you tired instead :eek:. Is it true? When I feel tired during the day, I cannot carry my normal job duties.

HGH
Reta
MOTS-c
SLU-PP-332
SR9009
NAD+
 
If used correctly it shouldn’t.

Too many people abuse it
 
Hello dear fellows,

I am going to start this new stack for fat loss. My concern is especially with fatigue, that I don't want to feel when using this stack. So I am thinking either to add HGH or Tesamorline for keeping me energetic? But someone told me, that HGH will make you tired instead :eek:. Is it true? When I feel tired during the day, I cannot carry my normal job duties.

HGH
Reta
MOTS-c
SLU-PP-332
SR9009
NAD+
yes for sure bro HGH can make you tired and down @LeakingCoffee
really depends on the person, diet training cardio sleep and more

@AE1079 comment here @Pigsy

and @LeakingCoffee been checking your log bro
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-retatrutide-walking-and-diet-cycle-log.102832/
no updates and yes you said you not training well start now
walking push ups
and nutrition start now
 
Hello dear fellows,

I am going to start this new stack for fat loss. My concern is especially with fatigue, that I don't want to feel when using this stack. So I am thinking either to add HGH or Tesamorline for keeping me energetic? But someone told me, that HGH will make you tired instead :eek:. Is it true? When I feel tired during the day, I cannot carry my normal job duties.

HGH
Reta
MOTS-c
SLU-PP-332
SR9009
NAD+
On this stack you will NOT feel fatigued.
Simply put, you have a lot mitochondrial function and efficiency drugs in use. Between the Mots C SLU and NAD+ Your mitochondria should be having a field day utilising all the energy in your body, which needs to be paired with a diet high micronutrients too, as your overall turnover will be greater. Given you have low bodyfat, and not an extremely high body weight, you won’t have issues.

Hgh dosed between 4-6IU per day will not make you tired on this stack, if your sleep and diet is pointed to optimisation, you should be bouncing off the walls

I’m using the same stack and using 6IU GH. Dieting for a show and my energy levels are greater then ever, diet and sleep is locked in.
 
Can you please explain the correct use a bit. I will be grateful 🙏
for maintenance just do 1-2iu's per day.

high dosing hgh is for guys who are competing
 
for maintenance just do 1-2iu's per day.

high dosing hgh is for guys who are competing
1-2 IUs is replacement dose brother, money wasted
3-4IU has a bit more bang for buck and is use is longevity and fat loss
4-8IU on tolerance- suitable for building muscle and allowing more hyper plasia.

Why is high HGH use ONLY for people who compete man? I know a lot of people who are using above 4IU between 35-50 who don’t compete and are in great health
 
1-2 IUs is replacement dose brother, money wasted
3-4IU has a bit more bang for buck and is use is longevity and fat loss
4-8IU on tolerance- suitable for building muscle and allowing more hyper plasia.

Why is high HGH use ONLY for people who compete man? I know a lot of people who are using above 4IU between 35-50 who don’t compete and are in great health
What should be the dose if I have to use 4IU per day? all at once or 2 at night and 2 in the morning? I don't know
 
On this stack you will NOT feel fatigued.
Simply put, you have a lot mitochondrial function and efficiency drugs in use. Between the Mots C SLU and NAD+ Your mitochondria should be having a field day utilising all the energy in your body, which needs to be paired with a diet high micronutrients too, as your overall turnover will be greater. Given you have low bodyfat, and not an extremely high body weight, you won’t have issues.

Hgh dosed between 4-6IU per day will not make you tired on this stack, if your sleep and diet is pointed to optimisation, you should be bouncing off the walls

I’m using the same stack and using 6IU GH. Dieting for a show and my energy levels are greater then ever, diet and sleep is locked in.
oh I am so glad that someone has a personal experience with this stack. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge 🙏. I have sourced the rest of them but I am not able to find the supplier for the following. Do you know any supplier?

NAD+
SR9009 (monster anablix has it but out of stock)
5-Amino-1-MQ
N2Gaurd - they say that it is must to protect liver

and also looking for SS31 to have more energy
 
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yes for sure bro HGH can make you tired and down @LeakingCoffee
really depends on the person, diet training cardio sleep and more

@AE1079 comment here @Pigsy

and @LeakingCoffee been checking your log bro
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-retatrutide-walking-and-diet-cycle-log.102832/
no updates and yes you said you not training well start now
walking push ups
and nutrition start now
For myself I take all my HGH before bed. And my days are very active. I think if I had a quiet day I may notice tiredness. But always being on the move. Don't have time to be tired through the day 😁
 
1-2 IUs is replacement dose brother, money wasted
3-4IU has a bit more bang for buck and is use is longevity and fat loss
4-8IU on tolerance- suitable for building muscle and allowing more hyper plasia.

Why is high HGH use ONLY for people who compete man? I know a lot of people who are using above 4IU between 35-50 who don’t compete and are in great health
maybe in australia your hgh is underdosed i don't know, back in the day you had to jack up the dosage of hgh stateside cause it was all underdosed.. so 6iu's = 2iu's

but every client i have who insists on higher dose hgh ends up with sides. carpal tunnell, insulin resistance, bloating, being tired and it hits the wallet hard etc. also because you are on so much other stuff it blends in well.

also i disagree 1iu hgh is wasted. hgh is an add on to the existing hgh you are releasing. even .5iu's would be beneficial pre first meal of the day to give yourself an extra pulse if you are looking for the anti aging benefits that most people are seeking.. its not like using test and doing 70mgs a week, that is a replacement dose that shuts down your own production for money wasted where you end up with less test.

i wouldn't use hgh at higher then 4iu's long term unless you were also using anti diabetes compounds with it along with thyroid meds. along with blasting gear to get the full effects.

again though you are a bodybuilding freak so your dosing is not gonna be the same as 99% of other guys/gals, the OP unless i am mistaken does not fit that bill from what he has said so far.
 
maybe in australia your hgh is underdosed i don't know

but every client i have who insists on higher dose hgh ends up with sides. carpal tunnell, insulin resistance, bloating, and it hits the wallet hard etc. also because you are on so much other stuff it blends in well.

also i disagree 1iu hgh is wasted. hgh is an add on to the existing hgh you are releasing. even .5iu's would be beneficial pre first meal of the day to give yourself an extra pulse if you are looking for the anti aging benefits that most people are seeking

i wouldn't use hgh at higher then 4iu's long term unless you were also using anti diabetes compounds with it along with thyroid meds.

again though you are a bodybuilding freak so your dosing is not gonna be the same as 99% of other guys/gals
We do have tests in our HGH and does come back with great numbers always 97+ purity.

It will depend on their individual response. I start my clients on 3IU. Because always they get little from the 2IU. Mind you that’s at the ages between 25-40.

.5 IUs exogenously is a waste though, why replace when the body can actually create that naturally, then your hitting the wallet hard in my opinion. Bang for buck isn’t there. From an anti aging point of view, it’s still not doing much at all, you’re just replacing the pulse dose, I would much rather do 1.5IU and get the maximum benefit of fat burning out of it pre cardio which will bring total fasted BG down due to adaptations cardio brings to the body. Anti diabetes compounds aren’t needed either bro, if someone is on a well balanced diet doing their due diligence and you guiding them as a coach. I would hope they would have zero impact on BG, and if they do they are doing something wrong.

Thyroid meds are needed for long term use yes as TSH will start down regulating as it won’t be able to keep up IGF1 induced anabolism, turn over will almost certainly slow down.

I take 6IU bro, split 2IU morning before cardio and 4IU at night.

BG 4.3 🥂
 
We do have tests in our HGH and does come back with great numbers always 97+ purity.

It will depend on their individual response. I start my clients on 3IU. Because always they get little from the 2IU. Mind you that’s at the ages between 25-40.

.5 IUs exogenously is a waste though, why replace when the body can actually create that naturally, then your hitting the wallet hard in my opinion. Bang for buck isn’t there. From an anti aging point of view, it’s still not doing much at all, you’re just replacing the pulse dose, I would much rather do 1.5IU and get the maximum benefit of fat burning out of it pre cardio which will bring total fasted BG down due to adaptations cardio brings to the body. Anti diabetes compounds aren’t needed either bro, if someone is on a well balanced diet doing their due diligence and you guiding them as a coach. I would hope they would have zero impact on BG, and if they do they are doing something wrong.

Thyroid meds are needed for long term use yes as TSH will start down regulating as it won’t be able to keep up IGF1 induced anabolism, turn over will almost certainly slow down.

I take 6IU bro, split 2IU morning before cardio and 4IU at night.

BG 4.3 🥂
Surely, to be clear, using GH is always in addition to what the body produces. I wanted to double check the issue of potential suppression. One reply was ''Understanding this mechanism is crucial for managing HGH therapy effectively. For instance, timing HGH injections to avoid periods of natural peak production can help maintain some level of endogenous hormone release.''. I suspect that might also be dose, frequency and time on dependant. It's also, for the reader, worth adding that (to date) we've not seen that (suppression) be a long term issue

I mean I 100% agree that .5ius is kinda pointless. Equally, I also agree with Strevesmi (this actually supports a view offered by you in a way) that I've done a bunch of research on doses used and the chances of side effects. Pretty much 90% of users who go a little over the eqv to 2.5ius a day can and do get the side effects listed. We know SOME get water bloat issues. As much as anything that can relate to the condition of the users.

The issue here is advice can be based on usual responses. As you say also. Like using AAS there will always be those who can get away with using a LOT and not have too many issues (a few will take additional steps to mitigate sides). Others can do very little and have problems.

On the tiredness - there has always been a small effect on the quality of sleep (usually better). But just as I have reminded a few previously on PEDs you often train harder. More than a few will also be dieting. So why are you tired... cos you're training harder and eating less. Steroids etc do NOT mean you'll be running around like a beefed up Forest Gump.
 
We do have tests in our HGH and does come back with great numbers always 97+ purity.

It will depend on their individual response. I start my clients on 3IU. Because always they get little from the 2IU. Mind you that’s at the ages between 25-40.

.5 IUs exogenously is a waste though, why replace when the body can actually create that naturally, then your hitting the wallet hard in my opinion. Bang for buck isn’t there. From an anti aging point of view, it’s still not doing much at all, you’re just replacing the pulse dose, I would much rather do 1.5IU and get the maximum benefit of fat burning out of it pre cardio which will bring total fasted BG down due to adaptations cardio brings to the body. Anti diabetes compounds aren’t needed either bro, if someone is on a well balanced diet doing their due diligence and you guiding them as a coach. I would hope they would have zero impact on BG, and if they do they are doing something wrong.

Thyroid meds are needed for long term use yes as TSH will start down regulating as it won’t be able to keep up IGF1 induced anabolism, turn over will almost certainly slow down.

I take 6IU bro, split 2IU morning before cardio and 4IU at night.

BG 4.3 🥂
Explain why that way for the benefit of the reader. Ta
 
try some paratropin from ugfreak.
and i would go 2-3iu's per day, nothing more to start.
 
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