ECA stack causes death?

[wolfpackalpha]

In this article, Matt Ashlar discusses the positives and negatives of ECA, specifically ephedrine - and the possibility of dying from it! Read on to find out how to avoid possible death from ephedrine....

ECA stack: http://www.evolutionary.org/eca-stack-lose-fat

 

[gearhead]

bro eca is strong...but imo no need for aspirin...

 

[muskate]

I think stating that the ECA stack could cause death is a little extreme but it brings up a good point that I remind people of over and over. Ephedrine, caffeine, clenbuterol etc. are all harsh stimulants that if abused - will raise cortisol levels and lead to adrenal fatigue. This is completely counterproductive to any sort of muscle building/fat loss goals.

I commonly recommend the alternatives cardarine gw + n2slin as a non-stimulant alternative that will give just a good, if not better results.
http://needtobuildmuscle.com/store/F...2Slin-p50.html
http://www.evolutionary.org/cardarine/
Cardarine is drug that binds to the PPAR receptor and is non-hormonal. Cardarine increases the expression of genes involved in the expenditure of energy, stimulates glucose uptake in skeletal muscle tissue and burns fat by stimulating fatty acid oxidation.
N2slin is a non-stimulant fat burner and powerful nutrient partitioner. It increases insulin sensitivity of muscle cells and helps partition the food you eat into muscle cells and away from fat cells.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

I have used the EC stack with great results but I kept the dose low and only ran for short periods of time. It is not the best option for someone who is going to abuse it. As Muskate points out, there are some great non stim options available.

 

[stevesmi]

the problem is guys who are overweight want to use ECA to lose weight.. and guys who are overweight already have heart issues that are made worse on this. the lesson is you need to change your lifestyle in the first place. a bad heart +stims is bad

 

[LevButlerov]

Be it for fat loss, or for performance enhancement during workouts, the use of stims never leads to anything good over the long term, so it is much wiser to use non-stim alternatives, and you have these both for fat loss, and for performance enhancement.

 

[s-tren-gth]

the problem is guys who are overweight want to use ECA to lose weight.. and guys who are overweight already have heart issues that are made worse on this. the lesson is you need to change your lifestyle in the first place. a bad heart +stims is bad

100% agree.
It is unlikely to see a bodybuilder die from it as you're already used to the massive increase in blood pressure and heart rate during strenous exercise.

Fat couch potatoes can easily die from a stroke or heart attack from ANY stimulant.

 

[trank406]

Exactly! If you're overweight and you don't have any experience with ephedrine then you'll have problems. Ephedrine doesn't do anything to me except allows me to breathe better and makes cardio more enjoyable. Doesn't give me the shakes nor give me any energy.. and I also don't take more than 24mgs. I've gone higher but theres no need.

A guy at the gym was telling me he takes 100mgs of the Bronkaid and he feels tweeked out. I told him you're an idiot and it's gonna make you feel like shit and fuck up your heart! You're much safer doing methamphetamine. Even though Meth will burn the lining of your heart and do damage in other places.. at least it's a cleaner feeling. Why would you want to feel shaky when working out? That's why I hate Clen. Even at lower doses I still get shaky and feel nauseous. Honestly if meth wasn't made up of shitty chemicals I'd still be using. I'm not telling people to go use meth because that's the stupidest shit you can do! It's a nasty drug and I don't want anyone going down that road. But I've always thought it had potential because the energy was always clean.. FOR ME PERSONALLY! But ephedrine.. take it at the lowest dose and see how you feel. Make sure if you have blood pressure issues to take CQ10. It's better to be safe than sorry!

 

[franksepe]

Ephedrine is what can kill you quickly.

 

[franksepe]

Yeah its ephedrine that can cause your heart to explode.


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[gearhead]

Yeah its ephedrine that can cause your heart to explode.


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bro if you snort a kg of it maybe...not at regular dose

 

[Shovelhead]

Exactly! If you're overweight and you don't have any experience with ephedrine then you'll have problems. Ephedrine doesn't do anything to me except allows me to breathe better and makes cardio more enjoyable. Doesn't give me the shakes nor give me any energy.. and I also don't take more than 24mgs. I've gone higher but theres no need.

A guy at the gym was telling me he takes 100mgs of the Bronkaid and he feels tweeked out. I told him you're an idiot and it's gonna make you feel like shit and fuck up your heart! You're much safer doing methamphetamine. Even though Meth will burn the lining of your heart and do damage in other places.. at least it's a cleaner feeling. Why would you want to feel shaky when working out? That's why I hate Clen. Even at lower doses I still get shaky and feel nauseous. Honestly if meth wasn't made up of shitty chemicals I'd still be using. I'm not telling people to go use meth because that's the stupidest shit you can do! It's a nasty drug and I don't want anyone going down that road. But I've always thought it had potential because the energy was always clean.. FOR ME PERSONALLY! But ephedrine.. take it at the lowest dose and see how you feel. Make sure if you have blood pressure issues to take CQ10. It's better to be safe than sorry!

Wow. Lmao. Never thought I would have heard meth suggested. Obviously I know you were being sarcastic.

 

[12Rossja]

I'd be more worried about the aspirin then the ephedrine. Lol

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