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4iu hgh is way too much. I tried going up to 3.5 iu and water retention was bad. 2iu long term use is best.
I do take fish oil daily for several years. The shoulder has bothered me for some time (5-6 months) but I’ve just powered thru it. Maybe I’ve just placed too much accumulated stress there. So a beak from incline presses may do the trick.
only change to diet will be replacing one low carb day with a medium carb day. And push my high carb day to the day after my low day instead of the day before.
Yeah. I wanted to try to maximize any growth during the bulk phase by increasing the HGH. Seen other coaches recommend 12-15IUs. That’s way too much for me….and I don’t have that kinda bank to throw at HGH. I’ve heard Derek from MPMD cover an article that showed anything over 6IUs doesn’t really significantly increase IGF-1 that much. But I’d really like to see if I can titrate up to 4.
Ok just remember these hormones work synergistically. 1+1=3
@Echos how much you taking with fish oil? you need 30 grams of fish oil per day 20-30
the change in diet? would be good to see it what you plan to do
shoulder injuries don't go away usually
even if you rest them they will definitely be a problem going forward
even if you rest them they will definitely be a problem going forward
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Hopefully it starts to feel better
so you getting carpal tunnel at 4ius then? What type of HGH you using? I tend to start to see carpel sides at 4ius as well. I can tolerate it though
Yea man, pushing through those injuries will always catch up with you.
Week 2 update:
So, first let me address a few things from the comments:
the shoulder issue only was bothersome on a few movements, incline press and shoulder press (sometimes). Otherwise it didn’t bother me. Don’t know why it didn’t occur to me to change the movement to a flat bench sooner. I’ve had incline press as my main heavy chest movement for at least a year. Wanted to focus on my upper chest. Need to switch it up more….lesson learned. I’ll give that some time and see where it is in a few months.
The carpel tunnel/HGH; I’m using grey tops from Napsgear. I forget the seller/brand. none of it is labeled. White box, grey top, clear unmarked vials. I’ve heard folks on YouTube talk about running HGH and getting CT after 6-8 IUs and then l hear the post a few years later that they are running 12 IUs no problem. Wonder if there is something else they are doing or it is just a matter of slow increase in tolerance. I’d like to get up to 6IUs at some point.
Okay, here is the bad news: On Sunday I started getting a headache and some muscle soreness. Thought it was just the training etc. Worked out Monday and Tuesday per normal. I live in Middle TN and we’ve had quite a bit of snow this week and it makes the roads unsafe. Most businesses were closed Mon and Tues. My ass was still driving to the gym to get it done right. feeling bad, in the snow…up hill both ways…LOL. Anyway, Wednesday comes and I’ve got some significant nasal drainage and a low grade fever, Thursday felt just awful so I went to my PCP and I’ve got the Flu. Ugh. Well, that explains it. I’m on some meds to help, gonna take the rest of the week off and hopefully feel better next week. the problem is that it always take a week to get back to 100%, so next week will be like slowly ramping things up again. I guess better to have this early in the cycle than right in the middle. so I’ll take next week to get re acclimated to the gym and then the following week will be hopefully full tilt again.
So, first let me address a few things from the comments:
the shoulder issue only was bothersome on a few movements, incline press and shoulder press (sometimes). Otherwise it didn’t bother me. Don’t know why it didn’t occur to me to change the movement to a flat bench sooner. I’ve had incline press as my main heavy chest movement for at least a year. Wanted to focus on my upper chest. Need to switch it up more….lesson learned. I’ll give that some time and see where it is in a few months.
The carpel tunnel/HGH; I’m using grey tops from Napsgear. I forget the seller/brand. none of it is labeled. White box, grey top, clear unmarked vials. I’ve heard folks on YouTube talk about running HGH and getting CT after 6-8 IUs and then l hear the post a few years later that they are running 12 IUs no problem. Wonder if there is something else they are doing or it is just a matter of slow increase in tolerance. I’d like to get up to 6IUs at some point.
Okay, here is the bad news: On Sunday I started getting a headache and some muscle soreness. Thought it was just the training etc. Worked out Monday and Tuesday per normal. I live in Middle TN and we’ve had quite a bit of snow this week and it makes the roads unsafe. Most businesses were closed Mon and Tues. My ass was still driving to the gym to get it done right. feeling bad, in the snow…up hill both ways…LOL. Anyway, Wednesday comes and I’ve got some significant nasal drainage and a low grade fever, Thursday felt just awful so I went to my PCP and I’ve got the Flu. Ugh. Well, that explains it. I’m on some meds to help, gonna take the rest of the week off and hopefully feel better next week. the problem is that it always take a week to get back to 100%, so next week will be like slowly ramping things up again. I guess better to have this early in the cycle than right in the middle. so I’ll take next week to get re acclimated to the gym and then the following week will be hopefully full tilt again.
