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EPO experiences?

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Can anyone give me some input on the drug. I am a bjj competitor and I have heard wonders about this PED. Also the risks involved. Some information would be much appreciated.
 
Can anyone give me some input on the drug. I am a bjj competitor and I have heard wonders about this PED. Also the risks involved. Some information would be much appreciated.
EPO is very safe if used correctly. There has not been a single overdose incident since the late 90's. That is when it was in its infancy and guys didn't know how to use it. Nothing I've come across works as well as EPO for endurance and repeated efforts. You can go and go and go again on EPO.
bro it was horrible...i felt like my heart was going to explode...total shit
If your heart felt like it was going to explode, it likely wasn't the epo. It doesn't work that way. EPO lowers your heart rate at any given output. Whether you are at rest or at max threshold. The big difference is that on EPO your output will be higher so maybe your cardio fitness was not capable of handling the higher output and you weren't used to your heart working at that level.

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EPO is very safe if used correctly. There has not been a single overdose incident since the late 90's. That is when it was in its infancy and guys didn't know how to use it. Nothing I've come across works as well as EPO for endurance and repeated efforts. You can go and go and go again on EPO.

If your heart felt like it was going to explode, it likely wasn't the epo. It doesn't work that way. EPO lowers your heart rate at any given output. Whether you are at rest or at max threshold. The big difference is that on EPO your output will be higher so maybe your cardio fitness was not capable of handling the higher output and you weren't used to your heart working at that level.

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If your heart felt like it was going to explode, it likely wasn't the epo. It doesn't work that way. EPO lowers your heart rate at any given output. Whether you are at rest or at max threshold. The big difference is that on EPO your output will be higher so maybe your cardio fitness was not capable of handling the higher output and you weren't used to your heart working at that level.

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First you say nothing will happen to the heart on EPO, then you say that it did happen to @gearhead because his heart was not conditioned enough to handle EPO. Therefore, the conclusion is simple - you got to be well conditioned before using it - but how do you know that you are good to go with it? I have seen some experienced athletes with heart issues when on EPO, and it is really hard to tell when a person is fit enough to use it, hence its danger of use.
 
Yes. In saying that, shouldn't anyone using any PED be fit enough to use it? I personally believe that EPO is safer than almost any Anabolic. There are almost no sides. We shouldnt buy in to the horror stories of the 90s. That's like thinking all the bad will happen to us that we heat of the steroid stories of the 70s. When drugs are in their new experimental stage, shit happens. People recklessly use them without knowing the correct way.........then we all benefit from their stupidity.

I have never seen heart issues on EPO. I have personal experience as well as have more friends than I can count on my fingers and toes that have experience with it and all of us love the affects of it.

I will say this, if your muscles are not ready to handle your new oxygen carrying capacity that epo gives you, you will suffer until your muscles can handle the new load. Your cardiac output on EPO will tax your muscles beyond what they are used to. Your heart will say "this is easy, let's keep goimg" but your muscles will say "Please stop! It hurts". Once they catch up, usually 2 weeks to a month, you will be on fire.


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Very good information provided above. Thanks guys. Definitely knowledgeable members here. How do you typically cycle EPO?
 
Its funny how afraid of EPO Bodybuilders and Powerlifters are. Before I started lifting I rode competitively for 8 years. The stuff is a wonder drug even when taken in EXTREMELY safe doses. The best year I had I was on Test E, EQ, and 3000iu a week of EPO. Obviously I wasn't pro or I would have been tested, but raced at the highest ametuer level.

Cyclists who died from it early on had hemotocrits in the 60's and their hearts just couldn't pump the sludge. Hematocrit of 50 is ideal. You can go from anywhere from 50-55 but 55 would be pushing it in my mind. Depending on how low your hematocrit is when you begin, you may see a HUGE benefit once you get to optimal levels.
 
Its funny how afraid of EPO Bodybuilders and Powerlifters are. Before I started lifting I rode competitively for 8 years. The stuff is a wonder drug even when taken in EXTREMELY safe doses. The best year I had I was on Test E, EQ, and 3000iu a week of EPO. Obviously I wasn't pro or I would have been tested, but raced at the highest ametuer level.

Cyclists who died from it early on had hemotocrits in the 60's and their hearts just couldn't pump the sludge. Hematocrit of 50 is ideal. You can go from anywhere from 50-55 but 55 would be pushing it in my mind. Depending on how low your hematocrit is when you begin, you may see a HUGE benefit once you get to optimal levels.
Yeah. You can maintain on 4000ius a week for sure.

The BB guys are so afraid of it. On EQ or test many of them donate blood often because their hematocrit is too high. They consider 50 high! 57 hct is safe and if I could walk around all the time with blood that thick, I would love it. Giving blood for that reason is giving away liquid gold.

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