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Here is my current physique for the trolls who say I’m fat and need to cut down before using PED. My profile picture was assigned by someone and that was me at the beginning of my current cycle at the end of July. This picture shows 3 months of progress. I have lost about 8 pounds but maintained muscle comp during the cut.
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Thank you so much for responding. This is the kind of relative information I was seeking
@Mr.GoodKat you have made some good progress so well done bro
I think you gotta work on the chest training a lot and shoulders so that can start next cycle.
If you truly want to push eq I would start with 500mgs and work from there.
Though I would log the training so we can help you improve because many bodyparts we can work in bro.
Yes I realize I need to add muscle that’s why I wanted to try EQ. I was in a deficit nearly this whole cycle but still was able to add muscle. I only lost 8 pounds and I know I lost way more than that in fat@Mr.GoodKat you have made some good progress so well done bro
I think you gotta work on the chest training a lot and shoulders so that can start next cycle.
If you truly want to push eq I would start with 500mgs and work from there.
Though I would log the training so we can help you improve because many bodyparts we can work in bro.
Even though you seem to tolerate higher doses without sides, I still won't recommend abusive doses. Not worth the health risks. Test and EQ I would do 200-300 test and 400-600 EQ. If you can't get results on that, something is wrong with diet or training.
From my research 5:3 test to eq ratio is ideal. I’m going to run 500mg test and 300mg eq for my next cycle. I’m adding the EQ to act as an AI and for some extra strength and endurance which equates to more long term gains. I think your dosages are a little high tbh. Personally I’d lower them and throw in an oral since EQ takes forever to kick in anyway.
Sometimes we don't respond well with certain compounds it happens, running more vs less at times can be counter productive just depends on mutiple factors.
With how hou train how long the sessions are and all the cardio it could be holding you back by spiking cortisol levels and putting to much stress and inflammation on the body combining the gear amounts plus the physical impact.
I know for me I use low amounts of gear and weaker compounds at that and I respond extremely well on just 600 total mg of compounds.
Maybe you just need to do some adjustments and see what helps and what doesn't, worth a shot.
With how hou train how long the sessions are and all the cardio it could be holding you back by spiking cortisol levels and putting to much stress and inflammation on the body combining the gear amounts plus the physical impact.
I know for me I use low amounts of gear and weaker compounds at that and I respond extremely well on just 600 total mg of compounds.
Maybe you just need to do some adjustments and see what helps and what doesn't, worth a shot.
Appreciate the suggestion bro
You do you... i can tell you with all certainty that 400-500 mg of eq is PLENTY... there is less than zero need to run eq that high and if you need to do that to make gains then you either have really bad gear or serious holes in diet and training... those kinds of doses shorten your life span and do not and some sort of significant huge difference in gains either... the adverse effects both short and long term, FAR outweigh ANY instant gratification, which once again will be temporary at best
I’ve seen you recommend EQ at 800 before and your current video in YouTube recommends 600 so why now the recommendation down to 400. What has changed in your opinion
@Mr.GoodKat eq would be a good place for you to start off, how about training diet? we should work on planning it for this coming cycle
That was years ago on those recommendations and over time i have learned that much is just not necessary and the risk far outweighs the reward
Good catch out.
there is no typical or set dosage for any of this no matter what anyone says. if it were me, I'd run 300 test and 400 EQ, but everyone is different. I don't run EQ due to the anxiety it gives me and the fact that a 400 dose would have me donating a pint of blood every 8 weeks due to high hematocrit.
700 mast is what really blew my mind lol
most powerlifters run injectable test/tren and one oral. that's pretty standard. im sure there are outliers but that's usually what it is. nobody needs a gram of test or 800 EQ. you could make a case even a top flight Mr Olympia competitor wouldn't need those doses.
One thing that I have learned and come to the realization as I have aged is that data and science is ever changing... Im more than man enough to always be accountable when I have made mistakes... I was far more in line with what the "bros" were saying when I was younger and for that, I am honestly embarrassed however I am accountable for that... NOW, I am in a far different place with far more understanding and hands on experience, working along side true doctors and practitioners and realizing so many of my past mistakes and assumptions that were inherently wrong... so I do understand that you saw old data and information, but I can tell you that I was wrong in those past instances
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