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EQ or Tren induced hairloss ?

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Hi guys, ok here's my problem,

A few months ago I did a 8 week cutter cycle which consisted in 300mg Test P / 300mg Tren A / 300mg Mast P / 350mg Winny per week. I didn't lose a single hair during this cycle even though I didn't take any protection for the hair so I considered myself blessed about hair loss.

I'm currently running a new cycle which is a quite hardcore bulker what I'm doing is :
Week 1-2 : 1.2g EQ
Week 3-12 : 800mg Test E / 800mg Tren E / 1G EQ and 50mg dbol/day (only week 3 to 6)
Week 13-14 : 300mg Test P
Week 14-18 : PCT

I started EQ 2 weeks before because I heard it takes a so long time to kick in I thought it would be a great idea (it's the first time I'm using EQ). Now the problem is I'm losing a few hairs everytime I get my hand through my hair which never happened to me before.
My question is : who is the culprit ? Is it EQ or is it the larger doses of Tren ? I know that my Tren dose is a bit more than twice the dose I took during my last cutter cycle but on another hand I was taking a lot of compounds which are supposed to be harsh on hair (tren, mast, winny) without any sign of hairloss.
I'm only at the beginning of the 5th week (so only 4x400mg injection of Tren) so I have difficulties to imagine that Tren would be the culprit since it didn't really have the time to stack in my body, right ?
And on another hand a lot of people say that EQ is so mild on hair that they never lost a single hair on EQ so I'm kind of lost here, if you could give your thoughts, I would really appreciate, thank you.
Last thing, since finasteride is out of question for Tren, what is your opinion on azelaic acid and Nizoral shampoo with 2% ketoconazole ?
 
My guess would be that since you are now taking much higher doses you are increasing your testosterone levels much higher and in effect raising your DHT output.

EQ isn't as bad for hair loss as the other compounds. Dbol and Winny are the worst. Nothing will stop your hair loss from Dbol as it's highly androgenic. Tren is pretty bad for the hair as it's a derivative of DHT. Of course Test is pretty bad for the hair also.

How long has it been since you ran your "cutter cycle"?

I would guess that the combo of Tren and Dbol are taking a toll on your hairline. Also, I think your "cutter cycle" may be catching up with you as well. It's only going to get worse unless you take out some compounds, like the Dbol and/or Tren, and get yourself a Ketoconazole shampoo. I use Regenpure, but Nizoral will do as well.

I'm glad you know not to run finasteride with compounds like Tren or Deca. That would make your problems exponentially worse.

Keep us posted...
 
I've finished my cutter cycle end of May so I highly doubt that it has anything to do with this since I've never lost a hair in my life on or off roids until now.
And about Dbol, I don't think it's the main culprit since I used it in previous cycle at 50mg/day for 6 week straight and no hair loss whatsoever, so yeah maybe the combo of both but I thought that tren and winny would be harsher, no ?
 
I was thinking maybe this was your first round of Dbol. Interesting since you've done it before.

I know that Winny, Dbol, and Tren are among the worst for hair loss.

Is this your first time using Tren? How old are you? Do the men in your family have male pattern baldness?

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Nope, second time on Tren considering I used it a few months ago but first time at this high of a dose.
I'm 25 and never experienced hair loss.
My dad is losing some hair but nothing worrying considering he's over 60 years old and all my brothers have a full head of hair (just like me).
 
Well, some facts we know about steroids and hair loss is that steroids won't make us lose hair that's not already genetically prone to being lost. All we do is speed up the process by flooding our bodies with testosterone which then turns to DHT and attaches to those genetically prone hair follicles. I'm sure you already know this.

I can almost guarantee the problem isn't the EQ, though at that dose it isn't helping. Lol
I'm pretty sure your main problem is the high Tren and Dbol. If I were you I would lower the Tren and Dbol. Maybe even cut the Dbol for now or at least drop it to 30mg/ED and see if that helps.

If I even took a fraction of your cycle I would look like a monk by the end of the week. Lol

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I have ran both tren a, and equipoise in previous cycle. Oddly I didn't loose any hair on 50 msg tren Ed, but I only ran it six weeks. However when I take the EQ up to 800 , I def notice hair shedding. I am not a fan of EQ anymore at all. I know it's known to be mild, but I get cystic acne, anxiety and notice shedding. I will always opt for NPP or any 19nor for that matter over EQ. Just my experience, and there is always the possibility that my Eq wasn't EQ , but it has been my experience using multiple labs.
 
Yeah, you're absolutely right sixsixzero, I have really thick hair, (don't mean to provocate guys who lose a lot of hair, sorry for you) a lot of barbers told me. What I lost on my cycle is probably insignificant even for some of you who are off cycle but since it's inhabitual to me I would rather talk about this with you guys rather than be sorry.

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Thanks for your input, I clearly understand what you mean but I can't help myself but think that EQ is culprit since it's the only compound I never took before.
 
Wow thank you for your input ! You're one of the first testimonials that is saying it this way but it makes sense to me. I've been on the harshest for hair steroids without noticing shedding but now that I'm shedding on 1.2G on EQ EW, everything designate EQ as the culprit. I guess I just have to drop it, it won't be a big lose since it's far from being the most anabolic steroid ever made. ;)
 
Yep. You won't notice much of a difference since you're still running a monster of a cycle.

Let us know how it works out for you.

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