Feedback on Cycle Please - 26 Week Test E + Primo E Cycle Plan

[juddy]

TLDR: IS GOOD OR BAD? Test & Primo 1:1 to 600mg ea per week. Why, lean bulk, why not...

Cycle Structure: Open to feedback on this.

Week	Test E (mg/week)	Primo E (mg/week)	Injection Volume (EOD)
1 to 2	140	140	20mg Test + 20mg Primo
3 to 4	280	280	40mg Test + 40mg Primo
5 to 6	420	420	60mg Test + 60mg Primo
7 to 8	500	500	70mg Test + 70mg Primo
9 to 18	600	600	85mg Test + 85mg Primo
19 to 26	Gradual Taper to TRT	Gradual Taper	20mg Test + 20mg Primo

*Oxandrolone on gym days 25 to 50mg.


I’m planning a 26 week Test E + Primo E blast, gradually increasing to a peak of 600mg per week of each before tapering back to my TRT dose (Test E 140mg/week). Keeping it simple works best for me. I’m already on TRT and have been running Primo at a 1:1 ratio for over six months Previous Log - See Sig Box below.

Stats: 42-year-old dadbod, 85kg after morning movement, 177cm barefoot. Previous Log - 115kg to 85kg.

I'm keeping this cycle to well-tolerated compounds. I’ve previously managed up to and over 300mg of Test and Primo without an AI and want to maintain that approach.

Is this doable? Should I titrate faster? Add some, NPP or Tren? No thanks @BodyMonster34


Cycle Structure: Open to feedback on this.

Week	Test E (mg/week)	Primo E (mg/week)	Injection Volume (EOD)
1 to 2	140	140	20mg Test + 20mg Primo
3 to 4	280	280	40mg Test + 40mg Primo
5 to 6	420	420	60mg Test + 60mg Primo
7 to 8	500	500	70mg Test + 70mg Primo
9 to 18	600	600	85mg Test + 85mg Primo
19 to 26	Gradual Taper to TRT	Gradual Taper	20mg Test + 20mg Primo

*Oxandrolone on gym days 25 to 50mg.

Aromatase Inhibitor (AI): Arimidex (Aromasin on hand too)
Start with 0.25mg EOD when symptoms and bloodwork dictate.

Liver and Kidney Support:
NAC: 600-1200mg daily.
Milk Thistle: 500mg daily.
Stay Hydrated:

Blood Pressure Management:
Ramipril (10mg daily): Continue as prescribed.
Cialis (5mg daily): Continue.
Monitor Blood Pressure: Daily.
Low Sodium Diet: Avoid excessive sodium intake.

Bloodwork Schedule:
Pre-Cycle: Full blood panel (Test, Estrogen, Lipids, Liver, Kidney).
Every 4 weeks: Full blood panel (Test, Estrogen, Lipids, Liver, Kidney).

 

[Allupfromhere]

Might find it hard to source that much primo for that length of time at the moment brother.

 

[juddy]

Might find it hard to source that much primo for that length of time at the moment brother.

All good here brother.

 

[Freki]

All good here brother.

Doomsday prepper

 

[LevButlerov]

TLDR: IS GOOD OR BAD? Test & Primo 1:1 to 600mg ea per week. Why, lean bulk, why not...

Cycle Structure: Open to feedback on this.

Week	Test E (mg/week)	Primo E (mg/week)	Injection Volume (EOD)
1 to 2	140	140	20mg Test + 20mg Primo
3 to 4	280	280	40mg Test + 40mg Primo
5 to 6	420	420	60mg Test + 60mg Primo
7 to 8	500	500	70mg Test + 70mg Primo
9 to 18	600	600	85mg Test + 85mg Primo
19 to 26	Gradual Taper to TRT	Gradual Taper	20mg Test + 20mg Primo

*Oxandrolone on gym days 25 to 50mg.


I’m planning a 26 week Test E + Primo E blast, gradually increasing to a peak of 600mg per week of each before tapering back to my TRT dose (Test E 140mg/week). Keeping it simple works best for me. I’m already on TRT and have been running Primo at a 1:1 ratio for over six months Previous Log - See Sig Box below.

Stats: 42-year-old dadbod, 85kg after morning movement, 177cm barefoot. Previous Log - 115kg to 85kg.

I'm keeping this cycle to well-tolerated compounds. I’ve previously managed up to and over 300mg of Test and Primo without an AI and want to maintain that approach.

Is this doable? Should I titrate faster? Add some, NPP or Tren? No thanks @BodyMonster34


Cycle Structure: Open to feedback on this.

Week	Test E (mg/week)	Primo E (mg/week)	Injection Volume (EOD)
1 to 2	140	140	20mg Test + 20mg Primo
3 to 4	280	280	40mg Test + 40mg Primo
5 to 6	420	420	60mg Test + 60mg Primo
7 to 8	500	500	70mg Test + 70mg Primo
9 to 18	600	600	85mg Test + 85mg Primo
19 to 26	Gradual Taper to TRT	Gradual Taper	20mg Test + 20mg Primo

*Oxandrolone on gym days 25 to 50mg.

Aromatase Inhibitor (AI): Arimidex (Aromasin on hand too)
Start with 0.25mg EOD when symptoms and bloodwork dictate.

Liver and Kidney Support:
NAC: 600-1200mg daily.
Milk Thistle: 500mg daily.
Stay Hydrated:

Blood Pressure Management:
Ramipril (10mg daily): Continue as prescribed.
Cialis (5mg daily): Continue.
Monitor Blood Pressure: Daily.
Low Sodium Diet: Avoid excessive sodium intake.

Bloodwork Schedule:
Pre-Cycle: Full blood panel (Test, Estrogen, Lipids, Liver, Kidney).
Every 4 weeks: Full blood panel (Test, Estrogen, Lipids, Liver, Kidney).

I followed all your logs and your health problems. @juddy

I dont think you need to use more than 500mgs of testosterone/week and an Ai like aromasin. No other steroids are necessary.

BPC would hlep but stay with test only.

 

[juddy]

I followed all your logs and your health problems. @juddy

I dont think you need to use more than 500mgs of testosterone/week and an Ai like aromasin. No other steroids are necessary.

BPC would hlep but stay with test only.

Thanks for following along, Lev. Yeah, chronic pain and high BP have been constant companions for a decade now, but they’re both well-managed. I’ve got a great GP who’s been instrumental in keeping my BP under control, and with daily monitoring in place, I’m confident it won’t be an issue this time around.

I get your point about keeping it simple with just Test, but that would mean relying on an AI and missing out on the benefits of Primo. Sure, it’s mild, but anecdotally, it’s a game changer for me. My strength at work is out of this world when I’m running Primo, and I’d rather have that edge without needing to dial in an AI.

My approach will be to take it one day at a time, so feel that the 500mg could end up being where I max out.

Thanks for you feedback.

 

[stevesmi]

TLDR: IS GOOD OR BAD? Test & Primo 1:1 to 600mg ea per week. Why, lean bulk, why not...

Cycle Structure: Open to feedback on this.

Week	Test E (mg/week)	Primo E (mg/week)	Injection Volume (EOD)
1 to 2	140	140	20mg Test + 20mg Primo
3 to 4	280	280	40mg Test + 40mg Primo
5 to 6	420	420	60mg Test + 60mg Primo
7 to 8	500	500	70mg Test + 70mg Primo
9 to 18	600	600	85mg Test + 85mg Primo
19 to 26	Gradual Taper to TRT	Gradual Taper	20mg Test + 20mg Primo

*Oxandrolone on gym days 25 to 50mg.


I’m planning a 26 week Test E + Primo E blast, gradually increasing to a peak of 600mg per week of each before tapering back to my TRT dose (Test E 140mg/week). Keeping it simple works best for me. I’m already on TRT and have been running Primo at a 1:1 ratio for over six months Previous Log - See Sig Box below.

Stats: 42-year-old dadbod, 85kg after morning movement, 177cm barefoot. Previous Log - 115kg to 85kg.

I'm keeping this cycle to well-tolerated compounds. I’ve previously managed up to and over 300mg of Test and Primo without an AI and want to maintain that approach.

Is this doable? Should I titrate faster? Add some, NPP or Tren? No thanks @BodyMonster34


Cycle Structure: Open to feedback on this.

Week	Test E (mg/week)	Primo E (mg/week)	Injection Volume (EOD)
1 to 2	140	140	20mg Test + 20mg Primo
3 to 4	280	280	40mg Test + 40mg Primo
5 to 6	420	420	60mg Test + 60mg Primo
7 to 8	500	500	70mg Test + 70mg Primo
9 to 18	600	600	85mg Test + 85mg Primo
19 to 26	Gradual Taper to TRT	Gradual Taper	20mg Test + 20mg Primo

*Oxandrolone on gym days 25 to 50mg.

Aromatase Inhibitor (AI): Arimidex (Aromasin on hand too)
Start with 0.25mg EOD when symptoms and bloodwork dictate.

Liver and Kidney Support:
NAC: 600-1200mg daily.
Milk Thistle: 500mg daily.
Stay Hydrated:

Blood Pressure Management:
Ramipril (10mg daily): Continue as prescribed.
Cialis (5mg daily): Continue.
Monitor Blood Pressure: Daily.
Low Sodium Diet: Avoid excessive sodium intake.

Bloodwork Schedule:
Pre-Cycle: Full blood panel (Test, Estrogen, Lipids, Liver, Kidney).
Every 4 weeks: Full blood panel (Test, Estrogen, Lipids, Liver, Kidney).

@juddy there is zero need to tritate your dosages up like that. start at the max dose you desire from week 1.
steroids have esters attached to tritrate up on their own so doing it manually is counterproductive

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks for following along, Lev. Yeah, chronic pain and high BP have been constant companions for a decade now, but they’re both well-managed. I’ve got a great GP who’s been instrumental in keeping my BP under control, and with daily monitoring in place, I’m confident it won’t be an issue this time around.

I get your point about keeping it simple with just Test, but that would mean relying on an AI and missing out on the benefits of Primo. Sure, it’s mild, but anecdotally, it’s a game changer for me. My strength at work is out of this world when I’m running Primo, and I’d rather have that edge without needing to dial in an AI.

My approach will be to take it one day at a time, so feel that the 500mg could end up being where I max out.

Thanks for you feedback.

Simple cycles for guys with health issues are best. Less dangerous and less problems. 500mgs testosterone and only testosterone is the future for you. @juddy
Of course add ai and BPC.

 

[BodyMonster34]

TLDR: IS GOOD OR BAD? Test & Primo 1:1 to 600mg ea per week. Why, lean bulk, why not...

Cycle Structure: Open to feedback on this.

Week	Test E (mg/week)	Primo E (mg/week)	Injection Volume (EOD)
1 to 2	140	140	20mg Test + 20mg Primo
3 to 4	280	280	40mg Test + 40mg Primo
5 to 6	420	420	60mg Test + 60mg Primo
7 to 8	500	500	70mg Test + 70mg Primo
9 to 18	600	600	85mg Test + 85mg Primo
19 to 26	Gradual Taper to TRT	Gradual Taper	20mg Test + 20mg Primo

*Oxandrolone on gym days 25 to 50mg.


I’m planning a 26 week Test E + Primo E blast, gradually increasing to a peak of 600mg per week of each before tapering back to my TRT dose (Test E 140mg/week). Keeping it simple works best for me. I’m already on TRT and have been running Primo at a 1:1 ratio for over six months Previous Log - See Sig Box below.

Stats: 42-year-old dadbod, 85kg after morning movement, 177cm barefoot. Previous Log - 115kg to 85kg.

I'm keeping this cycle to well-tolerated compounds. I’ve previously managed up to and over 300mg of Test and Primo without an AI and want to maintain that approach.

Is this doable? Should I titrate faster? Add some, NPP or Tren? No thanks @BodyMonster34


Cycle Structure: Open to feedback on this.

Week	Test E (mg/week)	Primo E (mg/week)	Injection Volume (EOD)
1 to 2	140	140	20mg Test + 20mg Primo
3 to 4	280	280	40mg Test + 40mg Primo
5 to 6	420	420	60mg Test + 60mg Primo
7 to 8	500	500	70mg Test + 70mg Primo
9 to 18	600	600	85mg Test + 85mg Primo
19 to 26	Gradual Taper to TRT	Gradual Taper	20mg Test + 20mg Primo

*Oxandrolone on gym days 25 to 50mg.

Aromatase Inhibitor (AI): Arimidex (Aromasin on hand too)
Start with 0.25mg EOD when symptoms and bloodwork dictate.

Liver and Kidney Support:
NAC: 600-1200mg daily.
Milk Thistle: 500mg daily.
Stay Hydrated:

Blood Pressure Management:
Ramipril (10mg daily): Continue as prescribed.
Cialis (5mg daily): Continue.
Monitor Blood Pressure: Daily.
Low Sodium Diet: Avoid excessive sodium intake.

Bloodwork Schedule:
Pre-Cycle: Full blood panel (Test, Estrogen, Lipids, Liver, Kidney).
Every 4 weeks: Full blood panel (Test, Estrogen, Lipids, Liver, Kidney).

@juddy bro you know what i gonna suggest.
dump the primo, add in tren.
that like the requirement

 

[RickRock]

No need ro ramp up dosages. Run it at recommended dosage the whole way

 

[ceo]

TLDR: IS GOOD OR BAD? Test & Primo 1:1 to 600mg ea per week. Why, lean bulk, why not...

Cycle Structure: Open to feedback on this.

Week	Test E (mg/week)	Primo E (mg/week)	Injection Volume (EOD)
1 to 2	140	140	20mg Test + 20mg Primo
3 to 4	280	280	40mg Test + 40mg Primo
5 to 6	420	420	60mg Test + 60mg Primo
7 to 8	500	500	70mg Test + 70mg Primo
9 to 18	600	600	85mg Test + 85mg Primo
19 to 26	Gradual Taper to TRT	Gradual Taper	20mg Test + 20mg Primo

*Oxandrolone on gym days 25 to 50mg.


I’m planning a 26 week Test E + Primo E blast, gradually increasing to a peak of 600mg per week of each before tapering back to my TRT dose (Test E 140mg/week). Keeping it simple works best for me. I’m already on TRT and have been running Primo at a 1:1 ratio for over six months Previous Log - See Sig Box below.

Stats: 42-year-old dadbod, 85kg after morning movement, 177cm barefoot. Previous Log - 115kg to 85kg.

I'm keeping this cycle to well-tolerated compounds. I’ve previously managed up to and over 300mg of Test and Primo without an AI and want to maintain that approach.

Is this doable? Should I titrate faster? Add some, NPP or Tren? No thanks @BodyMonster34


Cycle Structure: Open to feedback on this.

Week	Test E (mg/week)	Primo E (mg/week)	Injection Volume (EOD)
1 to 2	140	140	20mg Test + 20mg Primo
3 to 4	280	280	40mg Test + 40mg Primo
5 to 6	420	420	60mg Test + 60mg Primo
7 to 8	500	500	70mg Test + 70mg Primo
9 to 18	600	600	85mg Test + 85mg Primo
19 to 26	Gradual Taper to TRT	Gradual Taper	20mg Test + 20mg Primo

*Oxandrolone on gym days 25 to 50mg.

Aromatase Inhibitor (AI): Arimidex (Aromasin on hand too)
Start with 0.25mg EOD when symptoms and bloodwork dictate.

Liver and Kidney Support:
NAC: 600-1200mg daily.
Milk Thistle: 500mg daily.
Stay Hydrated:

Blood Pressure Management:
Ramipril (10mg daily): Continue as prescribed.
Cialis (5mg daily): Continue.
Monitor Blood Pressure: Daily.
Low Sodium Diet: Avoid excessive sodium intake.

Bloodwork Schedule:
Pre-Cycle: Full blood panel (Test, Estrogen, Lipids, Liver, Kidney).
Every 4 weeks: Full blood panel (Test, Estrogen, Lipids, Liver, Kidney).

@juddy Bros. You getting to creative on this. You don't need to keep increasing the dose and you don't need to taper. Anabolic steroids are not the same thing as catabolic steroids.

 

[RoidRage69]

All I can say is to increase your gym intensity and lift heavier weights every single week while on this cycle. If u can do that you will gain a ton of muscle.

 

[willipede]

Do you know where your e2 sits at with your test that high?

I'd go to your max test dose that you've done in the past with no sides and add primo

Eg. 400 test e, 400 primo e. Then get bloods done after 4 weeks, if e2 is in range you can decide whether to increase both up or whether to only increase primo

 

[juddy]

Do you know where your e2 sits at with your test that high?

I'd go to your max test dose that you've done in the past with no sides and add primo

Eg. 400 test e, 400 primo e. Then get bloods done after 4 weeks, if e2 is in range you can decide whether to increase both up or whether to only increase primo

Highest test was 300mg with 300mg Primo. At that me e2 was elevated, high 200's from memory, no sides to speak of and only.new as I was doing monthly bloods.

@juddy Bros. You getting to creative on this. You don't need to keep increasing the dose and you don't need to taper. Anabolic steroids are not the same thing as catabolic steroids.

Really...

 

[willipede]

Highest test was 300mg with 300mg Primo. At that me e2 was elevated, high 200's from memory, no sides to speak of and only.new as I was doing monthly bloods.


Really...

In that case I wouldn't go much over 300 test

I prefer to do things without an ai, and only use it for emergencies

Something like
300-400 test e, 500-600 primo, 100-200 mast

Aromasin on hand just in case

I think would be a really nice cycle. Add some anavar or anadrol to that sparingly and it's a really nice package

Obviously with the primo being low in stock atm take that into consideration

 

[juddy]

In that case I wouldn't go much over 300 test

I prefer to do things without an ai, and only use it for emergencies

Something like
300-400 test e, 500-600 primo, 100-200 mast

Aromasin on hand just in case

I think would be a really nice cycle. Add some anavar or anadrol to that sparingly and it's a really nice package

Obviously with the primo being low in stock atm take that into consideration

Yeah I think we're on the same page, AI is here just incase.

Running two DHT derivatives? I've not tried Mast, have it here as was thinking of giving it a try.

Thanks!

 

[willipede]

They're all pretty well tolerated so can be run for a nice and long duration.

Id start at your previous cycles amount 300 test e, 300 primo, add 100 mast

Then you can play with doses. Once you feel like you've hit the sweet spot get bloods checked

 

[juddy]

They're all pretty well tolerated so can be run for a nice and long duration.

Id start at your previous cycles amount 300 test e, 300 primo, add 100 mast

Then you can play with doses. Once you feel like you've hit the sweet spot get bloods checked

Sounds solid to me, thanks.

 

[Mobster]

Let's start with why 26 weeks for a lean bulk?

 

[juddy]

Let's start with why 26 weeks for a lean bulk?

Hi Mobster, I was thinking 18 to 26 weeks. No particular reason for that duration.

In all honesty, I don't expect to make it that long. I will push hard, but don't want to burn out or get hurt. So figures longer lower was better than shorter higher...