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FIRST CYCLE 1200MG TEST E 12 WEEKS (WHOLE CYCLE)

adoniswithtwodeez

72 hour time-out
TEST E 1200MG WEEKLY TOTAL 600MG DOSE 3-4 DAYS APART FOR THE FIRST TEN WEEKS
TEST P 1000MG WEEKLY TOTAL 143 DAILY DOSE LAST TWO WEEKS (I HAVE 2000MG EXTRA TEST P)
MK-677 18 MG A NIGHT EVERY NIGHT

DIANABOL 100MG SPLIT BEFORE EACH WORKOUT SESSION THE FIRST 20 DAYS OF THE CYCLE (EATING EVERY 90 MINUTES, THEY'RE 10 MG TABS ON 7 HOUR+ WORKOUT DAYS)

HCG 500MG EOD WHOLE CYCLE
HGH 2.6IU EVERY MORNING
LETROZOLE .312.5MG EACH TEST E INJECTION SAME FREQUENCY (3-4 DAYS APART) DURING TEST P INJECTIONS AS WELL (ALSO PLAYING BY NIPPLE)
NOLVADEX 12.5MG EVERYNIGHT

DAY 21 SWITCH OFF DIANABOL AND INTRODUCING

ANADROL 150MG USED PRE WORKOUT FOR 33 AND 1.3 DAYS
DURING THIS TIME I WILL RAISE NOLVADEX 25MG A DAY

WEEK FIVE I START
PEG-MGF 286 MCG EOD POST WORKOUT 6 WEEKS
FOLLISTATIN 344 200 IN THE MORNING 10 DAYS STRAIGHT
AND TESAMORELIN 333MCG EVERY NIGHT FOR 4 WEEKS

AFTER THE LAST OF ANADROL I INTRODUCE
ANAVAR 100MG (25 MG TABS) PRE WORKOUT SESSIONS AND 1 AT NIGHT FOR SLEEP TILL THE END OF CYCLE
AND I LOWER NOLVADEX BACK TO 12.5MG IF THERE AREN'T ANY COMPLICATIONS

ON WEEK 11 I INTRODUCE TEST P DAILY AND THE LAST TEST E SHOT TO PREPARE FOR PCT
I ALSO START ANOTHER 10 DAY FOLLISTATIN 344 STINT
I ALSO START TAPERING DOWN LETROZOLE WEEK 12 TO HALF THE DOSE I WAS TAKING SAME FREQUENCY

AFTER WEEK 12 I HAVE A BRIGDE WEEK
TAKE ONE LAST LETROZOLE DOSE AND RAISE THE NOLVADEX 25 MG

WEEK 14 I START (FOR TWO WEEKS)
CLOMID 50MG EVERY MORNING
GONADRELIN 500MCG EOD IN THE MORNING
KISSPEPTIN-10 333 MCG EVERYNIGHT
AND NOLVADEX 50MG EVERYNIGHT

WEEK 16 I LOWER
CLOMID TO 25MG EVERY MONRING
NOLVADEX 25 MG
SAME GONADRELIN
SAME KISSPEPTIN

WEEK 18 I DROP
CLOMID
GONADRELIN SAME
KISSPEPTIN-10 SAME
NOLVADEX 25 MG

WEEK 20 ONLY
KISSPEPTIN-10 FOR TWO MORE WEEKS

THEN I'LL BE DONE WITH IT.

I ALSO HAVE THESE MACROS PLANNED TO EAT EVERY 90 MINUTES

DAILY

5LB CHICKEN DRUMSTICKS
PROTEIN 247 GRAMS
FAT 130 GRAMS
POTASSIUM 3120
SODIUM 2080
CALORIES 2210

LARD 29 SERVINGS
FAT 377
CALORIES 3480

CHIA SEEDS 10 TBSP
PROTEIN 25 GRAMS
FAT 40 GRAMS
POTASSIUM 700 GRAMS
CARBS 40 GRAMS
FIBER 40 GRAMS
CALORIES 650

AMINO ACIDS BEFORE BED
PROTEIN 35
CALORIES 140

ARGININE 5G
GLYCINE 5G
GLUTAMINE 10G
LYSINE 10G
TAURINE 2G
GABA 3G

TOTAL PROTAIN 307 GRAMS
TOTAL FAT 547 GRAMS
TOTAL CARBS 40 GRAMS
TOTAL FIBER 40 GRAMS
TOTAL POTASSIUM 3820 (GOAL 6000MG - 7000 USING POTASSIUM BHB)
TOTAL SODIUM 2080 (GOAL 5000MG - 6500MG JUST SALT)
TOTAL CALORIES 6480

IM LIKE 170 RN WITH ABOUT 18 TO 22 FAT IM GUESSING THOUGH I BARELY SEE MY ABS AND HOLD A LOT ON MY LEGS

IM AIM FOR 190 TRYNA GET TO LIKE 220-250 MUSCLE 15 PERCENT BODY FAT

MY WORKOUT PLAN ALL COMPUND MOVEMENTS 58 SETS (TILL FAILURE) EVERY SINGLE DAY WITH BREAKS EVERY 90 MINUTES FOR MEALS

I LINED THE WORKOUTS SO THAT THE FIRST ONE HAS THE MOST HORMONAL RESPONSE TO THE LAST WITH ALL OF THEM HAVING EXCEPTIONAL HORMONAL REPONSE

DEALIFTS (3 SETS 6 REPS)
SQUATS (4 SETS 10 REPS)
WEIGHTED DIPS (3 SETS 6 REPS)
WEIGHTED CHIN UPS (3 SETS 8 REPS)
WEIGHTED PULL UPS (3 SETS 8 REPS)
FLAT BARBELL PRESS (4 SETS 8 REPS)
BARBELL ROW (4 SETS 10 REPS)
STANDING OVERHEAD PRESS (3 SETS 10 REPS)
INCLINE BARBELL (3 SETS 10 REPS)
PENDLAY ROWS (3 SETS 8 REPS)
INCLINE DUMBELL PRESS (3 SETS 12 REPS)
KROC ROWS (2 SETS 30 REPS)
REVERSE GRIP BARBELL ROW (3 SETS 12 REPS)
ARNOLD PRESS (3 SETS 12 REPS)
DUMBELL ROWS (3 SETS 15 REPS)
Z PRESS (2 SETS 10 REPS)
SEATED DUMBELL PRESS (3 SETS 12 REPS)
GUILLOTINE PRESS (3 SETS 12 REPS)
CLOSE GRIP PRESS (3 SETS 10 REPS)
BARBELL CHEAT CURL (3 SETS 10 REPS)

IM PREPPING 3 WEEKS AHEAD WITH DUTASTERIDE TO COMBAT HAIR LOSS. I'M USING IGF-1 LR3 INJECTIONS IN THE SCALP AND FACE. GHK-CU AS WELL HAIR AND FACE INJECTIONS. I'M ALSO USING TOPICAL FINESTERIDE WITH 5 PERCENT MINOXADIL & A RU58841 SOLUTION FOR HAIR AS WELL. WITH A KETOCONZOLE HAIR WASH APART FROM PURA DOR SHAMPOO.

WHAT YOU YALL THINK?
IS IT GONNA WORKOUT?
 
Unconvincing troll, someone needs attention hey?
wtf kinda hater sh*t. no that’s seriously the stack i’m going to utilize. i’m asking for tips. pluss i need to reiterate exactly what im doing or else im going it wrong because it’s my first time. AND WHAT IF I DO NEED ATTENTION WE’RE LITERALLY TAKING LIFE CHANGING BODY ALTERING SUBSTANCES. what if i die? tf is wrong with u
 
TEST E 1200MG WEEKLY TOTAL 600MG DOSE 3-4 DAYS APART FOR THE FIRST TEN WEEKS
TEST P 1000MG WEEKLY TOTAL 143 DAILY DOSE LAST TWO WEEKS (I HAVE 2000MG EXTRA TEST P)
MK-677 18 MG A NIGHT EVERY NIGHT

DIANABOL 100MG SPLIT BEFORE EACH WORKOUT SESSION THE FIRST 20 DAYS OF THE CYCLE (EATING EVERY 90 MINUTES, THEY'RE 10 MG TABS ON 7 HOUR+ WORKOUT DAYS)

HCG 500MG EOD WHOLE CYCLE
HGH 2.6IU EVERY MORNING
LETROZOLE .312.5MG EACH TEST E INJECTION SAME FREQUENCY (3-4 DAYS APART) DURING TEST P INJECTIONS AS WELL (ALSO PLAYING BY NIPPLE)
NOLVADEX 12.5MG EVERYNIGHT

DAY 21 SWITCH OFF DIANABOL AND INTRODUCING

ANADROL 150MG USED PRE WORKOUT FOR 33 AND 1.3 DAYS
DURING THIS TIME I WILL RAISE NOLVADEX 25MG A DAY

WEEK FIVE I START
PEG-MGF 286 MCG EOD POST WORKOUT 6 WEEKS
FOLLISTATIN 344 200 IN THE MORNING 10 DAYS STRAIGHT
AND TESAMORELIN 333MCG EVERY NIGHT FOR 4 WEEKS

AFTER THE LAST OF ANADROL I INTRODUCE
ANAVAR 100MG (25 MG TABS) PRE WORKOUT SESSIONS AND 1 AT NIGHT FOR SLEEP TILL THE END OF CYCLE
AND I LOWER NOLVADEX BACK TO 12.5MG IF THERE AREN'T ANY COMPLICATIONS

ON WEEK 11 I INTRODUCE TEST P DAILY AND THE LAST TEST E SHOT TO PREPARE FOR PCT
I ALSO START ANOTHER 10 DAY FOLLISTATIN 344 STINT
I ALSO START TAPERING DOWN LETROZOLE WEEK 12 TO HALF THE DOSE I WAS TAKING SAME FREQUENCY

AFTER WEEK 12 I HAVE A BRIGDE WEEK
TAKE ONE LAST LETROZOLE DOSE AND RAISE THE NOLVADEX 25 MG

WEEK 14 I START (FOR TWO WEEKS)
CLOMID 50MG EVERY MORNING
GONADRELIN 500MCG EOD IN THE MORNING
KISSPEPTIN-10 333 MCG EVERYNIGHT
AND NOLVADEX 50MG EVERYNIGHT

WEEK 16 I LOWER
CLOMID TO 25MG EVERY MONRING
NOLVADEX 25 MG
SAME GONADRELIN
SAME KISSPEPTIN

WEEK 18 I DROP
CLOMID
GONADRELIN SAME
KISSPEPTIN-10 SAME
NOLVADEX 25 MG

WEEK 20 ONLY
KISSPEPTIN-10 FOR TWO MORE WEEKS

THEN I'LL BE DONE WITH IT.

I ALSO HAVE THESE MACROS PLANNED TO EAT EVERY 90 MINUTES

DAILY

5LB CHICKEN DRUMSTICKS
PROTEIN 247 GRAMS
FAT 130 GRAMS
POTASSIUM 3120
SODIUM 2080
CALORIES 2210

LARD 29 SERVINGS
FAT 377
CALORIES 3480

CHIA SEEDS 10 TBSP
PROTEIN 25 GRAMS
FAT 40 GRAMS
POTASSIUM 700 GRAMS
CARBS 40 GRAMS
FIBER 40 GRAMS
CALORIES 650

AMINO ACIDS BEFORE BED
PROTEIN 35
CALORIES 140

ARGININE 5G
GLYCINE 5G
GLUTAMINE 10G
LYSINE 10G
TAURINE 2G
GABA 3G

TOTAL PROTAIN 307 GRAMS
TOTAL FAT 547 GRAMS
TOTAL CARBS 40 GRAMS
TOTAL FIBER 40 GRAMS
TOTAL POTASSIUM 3820 (GOAL 6000MG - 7000 USING POTASSIUM BHB)
TOTAL SODIUM 2080 (GOAL 5000MG - 6500MG JUST SALT)
TOTAL CALORIES 6480

IM LIKE 170 RN WITH ABOUT 18 TO 22 FAT IM GUESSING THOUGH I BARELY SEE MY ABS AND HOLD A LOT ON MY LEGS

IM AIM FOR 190 TRYNA GET TO LIKE 220-250 MUSCLE 15 PERCENT BODY FAT

MY WORKOUT PLAN ALL COMPUND MOVEMENTS 58 SETS (TILL FAILURE) EVERY SINGLE DAY WITH BREAKS EVERY 90 MINUTES FOR MEALS

I LINED THE WORKOUTS SO THAT THE FIRST ONE HAS THE MOST HORMONAL RESPONSE TO THE LAST WITH ALL OF THEM HAVING EXCEPTIONAL HORMONAL REPONSE

DEALIFTS (3 SETS 6 REPS)
SQUATS (4 SETS 10 REPS)
WEIGHTED DIPS (3 SETS 6 REPS)
WEIGHTED CHIN UPS (3 SETS 8 REPS)
WEIGHTED PULL UPS (3 SETS 8 REPS)
FLAT BARBELL PRESS (4 SETS 8 REPS)
BARBELL ROW (4 SETS 10 REPS)
STANDING OVERHEAD PRESS (3 SETS 10 REPS)
INCLINE BARBELL (3 SETS 10 REPS)
PENDLAY ROWS (3 SETS 8 REPS)
INCLINE DUMBELL PRESS (3 SETS 12 REPS)
KROC ROWS (2 SETS 30 REPS)
REVERSE GRIP BARBELL ROW (3 SETS 12 REPS)
ARNOLD PRESS (3 SETS 12 REPS)
DUMBELL ROWS (3 SETS 15 REPS)
Z PRESS (2 SETS 10 REPS)
SEATED DUMBELL PRESS (3 SETS 12 REPS)
GUILLOTINE PRESS (3 SETS 12 REPS)
CLOSE GRIP PRESS (3 SETS 10 REPS)
BARBELL CHEAT CURL (3 SETS 10 REPS)

IM PREPPING 3 WEEKS AHEAD WITH DUTASTERIDE TO COMBAT HAIR LOSS. I'M USING IGF-1 LR3 INJECTIONS IN THE SCALP AND FACE. GHK-CU AS WELL HAIR AND FACE INJECTIONS. I'M ALSO USING TOPICAL FINESTERIDE WITH 5 PERCENT MINOXADIL & A RU58841 SOLUTION FOR HAIR AS WELL. WITH A KETOCONZOLE HAIR WASH APART FROM PURA DOR SHAMPOO.

WHAT YOU YALL THINK?
IS IT GONNA WORKOUT?
Welcome to the EVO family @adoniswithtwodeez
Is English your 2nd language?
Why did you type all caps?

Your cycle is very extreme, how much experience do you have ?
 
can you explain what exactly is extreme about it to you? i'm tryna gain 40 lbs muscle and 30 or 40 in water weight
Please post your stats:
Age/weight/height/bodyfat
And a picture face blurred so we can see your base.
 
I weight 170 - 180 rn but i'm cutting on a 1600 calorie diet for no particular reason just ended up starting tirzepetide before i realized i was gonna take anabolics and my height is 5'9". i've been losing like five pounds a week so i'll probably be 165-175 lb when i start, probably closer to 165 taking aod-9604 as well.

i'm not gonna post any photos
i'm 24
 
You should turn this into a log. It’s very detailed.

Can you post some gears pics atleast or food for us? Pics are good it encourages others
 
You should turn this into a log. It’s very detailed.

Can you post some gears pics atleast or food for us? Pics are good it encourages others
it's just gonna be chicken and lard

WAKE UP HGH THEN FAST

START EATING 90 MINUTES INTO THE DAY

10 SERVINGS OF CHIA SEEDS

(25 GRAMS PROTEIN)
(40 CARBS)
(40 GRAMS OF FAT)
(CALORIES 650)

ROUGHLY 3.625 SERVINGS OF LARD
(435 CALORIES)
(47.125 GRAMS FAT)

MEAL TOTAL
(25 GRAMS PROTEIN)
(40 CARBS)
(87.125 GRAMS FAT)
(CALORIES 1085)


RIGHT BEFORE
3 HOURS (PRE AND EAT)

8 OZ CHICKEN DRUMSTICKS

(PROTEIN 38 GRAMS)
(FAT 20 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 340)

ROUGHLY 3.625 SERVINGS OF LARD
(435 CALORIES)
(47.125 GRAMS FAT)

MEAL TOTAL
(PROTEIN 38 GRAMS)
(FAT 67.125 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 775)

4:30 HOURS EAT

8 OZ CHICKEN DRUMSTICKS

(PROTEIN 38 GRAMS)
(FAT 20 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 340)

ROUGHLY 3.625 SERVINGS OF LARD
(435 CALORIES)
(47.125 GRAMS FAT)

MEAL TOTAL
(PROTEIN 38 GRAMS)
(FAT 67.125 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 775)

6:00 HOURS (PRE AND EAT)

8 OZ CHICKEN DRUMSTICKS

(PROTEIN 38 GRAMS)
(FAT 20 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 340)

ROUGHLY 3.625 SERVINGS OF LARD
(435 CALORIES)
(47.125 GRAMS FAT)

MEAL TOTAL
(PROTEIN 38 GRAMS)
(FAT 67.125 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 775)

7:30 HOURS EAT

8 OZ CHICKEN DRUMSTICKS

(PROTEIN 38 GRAMS)
(FAT 20 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 340)

ROUGHLY 3.625 SERVINGS OF LARD
(435 CALORIES)
(47.125 GRAMS FAT)

MEAL TOTAL
(PROTEIN 38 GRAMS)
(FAT 67.125 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 775)

9:00 HOURS PRE AND EAT

8 OZ CHICKEN DRUMSTICKS

(PROTEIN 38 GRAMS)
(FAT 20 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 340)

ROUGHLY 3.625 SERVINGS OF LARD
(435 CALORIES)
(47.125 GRAMS FAT)

MEAL TOTAL
(PROTEIN 38 GRAMS)
(FAT 67.125 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 775)

10:30 EAT

8 OZ CHICKEN DRUMSTICKS

(PROTEIN 38 GRAMS)
(FAT 20 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 340)

ROUGHLY 3.625 SERVINGS OF LARD
(435 CALORIES)
(47.125 GRAMS FAT)

MEAL TOTAL
(PROTEIN 38 GRAMS)
(FAT 67.125 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 775)

12:00 EAT

AMINO ACIDS

(PROTEIN 35)
(CALORIES 140)

ROUGHLY 3.625 SERVINGS OF LARD
(435 CALORIES)
(47.125 GRAMS FAT)

4 OZ CHICKEN DRUMSTICKS
(PROTEIN 19 GRAMS)
(FAT 10 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 170)

MEAL TOTAL
(PROTEIN 54 GRAMS)
(FAT 57.125 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 745)



and most of the gear is illegal for me to have.
I'd vlog but instead i'm gonna try and model high end pants and shoes with my shirt off on tiktok
i think it'd do better on the algorithm. I'll link it later if it does well.

so far i'm especially worried about cns fatigue but i don't want to lessen the workout consistency in fear of not fully utilizing the stack on such a high caloric intake
 
it's just gonna be chicken and lard

WAKE UP HGH THEN FAST

START EATING 90 MINUTES INTO THE DAY

10 SERVINGS OF CHIA SEEDS

(25 GRAMS PROTEIN)
(40 CARBS)
(40 GRAMS OF FAT)
(CALORIES 650)

ROUGHLY 3.625 SERVINGS OF LARD
(435 CALORIES)
(47.125 GRAMS FAT)

MEAL TOTAL
(25 GRAMS PROTEIN)
(40 CARBS)
(87.125 GRAMS FAT)
(CALORIES 1085)


RIGHT BEFORE
3 HOURS (PRE AND EAT)

8 OZ CHICKEN DRUMSTICKS

(PROTEIN 38 GRAMS)
(FAT 20 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 340)

ROUGHLY 3.625 SERVINGS OF LARD
(435 CALORIES)
(47.125 GRAMS FAT)

MEAL TOTAL
(PROTEIN 38 GRAMS)
(FAT 67.125 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 775)

4:30 HOURS EAT

8 OZ CHICKEN DRUMSTICKS

(PROTEIN 38 GRAMS)
(FAT 20 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 340)

ROUGHLY 3.625 SERVINGS OF LARD
(435 CALORIES)
(47.125 GRAMS FAT)

MEAL TOTAL
(PROTEIN 38 GRAMS)
(FAT 67.125 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 775)

6:00 HOURS (PRE AND EAT)

8 OZ CHICKEN DRUMSTICKS

(PROTEIN 38 GRAMS)
(FAT 20 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 340)

ROUGHLY 3.625 SERVINGS OF LARD
(435 CALORIES)
(47.125 GRAMS FAT)

MEAL TOTAL
(PROTEIN 38 GRAMS)
(FAT 67.125 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 775)

7:30 HOURS EAT

8 OZ CHICKEN DRUMSTICKS

(PROTEIN 38 GRAMS)
(FAT 20 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 340)

ROUGHLY 3.625 SERVINGS OF LARD
(435 CALORIES)
(47.125 GRAMS FAT)

MEAL TOTAL
(PROTEIN 38 GRAMS)
(FAT 67.125 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 775)

9:00 HOURS PRE AND EAT

8 OZ CHICKEN DRUMSTICKS

(PROTEIN 38 GRAMS)
(FAT 20 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 340)

ROUGHLY 3.625 SERVINGS OF LARD
(435 CALORIES)
(47.125 GRAMS FAT)

MEAL TOTAL
(PROTEIN 38 GRAMS)
(FAT 67.125 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 775)

10:30 EAT

8 OZ CHICKEN DRUMSTICKS

(PROTEIN 38 GRAMS)
(FAT 20 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 340)

ROUGHLY 3.625 SERVINGS OF LARD
(435 CALORIES)
(47.125 GRAMS FAT)

MEAL TOTAL
(PROTEIN 38 GRAMS)
(FAT 67.125 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 775)

12:00 EAT

AMINO ACIDS

(PROTEIN 35)
(CALORIES 140)

ROUGHLY 3.625 SERVINGS OF LARD
(435 CALORIES)
(47.125 GRAMS FAT)

4 OZ CHICKEN DRUMSTICKS
(PROTEIN 19 GRAMS)
(FAT 10 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 170)

MEAL TOTAL
(PROTEIN 54 GRAMS)
(FAT 57.125 GRAMS)
(CALORIES 745)



and most of the gear is illegal for me to have.
I'd vlog but instead i'm gonna try and model high end pants and shoes with my shirt off on tiktok
i think it'd do better on the algorithm. I'll link it later if it does well.

so far i'm especially worried about cns fatigue but i don't want to lessen the workout consistency in fear of not fully utilizing the stack on such a high caloric intake
ill probably edit the first lard serving of the day to after my first session and through out the day
 
is extreme okay? i realize it is. i want to quickest transformation with the strongest results while mitigating the worst effects.
Not how this works man gear or not nothing is quick about this, also you are deploying a suicide inhibitor in letro not a good idea, none of this is a good cycle, side effect city to much to go wrong with this.
 
Not how this works man gear or not nothing is quick about this, also you are deploying a suicide inhibitor in letro not a good idea, none of this is a good cycle, side effect city to much to go wrong with this.
yeah (letrozole) but I'm taking very high doses of anabolics as well and my estrogen is gonna be so high that it should level out right on a low enough dose. it's on the lower end and spread out two doses a week. with the 600 test e dose and orals. you're mention of it not being quick is ironic because i know you know you can gain like thrice the amount of muscle you would a whole year in 3 months with proper gear, sometimes way more. that's pretty quick obviously. what are you referring to might go wrong? you should be more specific. things can go wrong all the time and if you're actually right you can't probably help me fix it. i'm not taking 2.5mg or letrozole eod or even twice a day. it's .312.5mg bro. that's like a 1/3 of one mg every 3 four days. i might need more tbh. right?
 
Nobody in these forum condones this self destructive behavior. Please seek a mental health specialist. It sounds like you have body dysmorphia. The compounds you listed will make your situation worse.
it's not meant to be self destructive. like, can you actually present your idea for why it's self destructive instead of calling it that. what is the premise for what you said? i'm really just curios .
 
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