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OK, this is my first time ever messing with steroids (prohormones) and Im relatively new to bodybuilding/working out in general, but I’ve been reading this forum and a ton of other info that I’ve found online for the past two days straight!! I'm completely overloaded and I’ve decided that I need some information tailored to my personal situation!
Here we go... And, thanks in advance...:clap:
I'm 26, 6'1... about 9 months ago I was about 205lbs with lots of FAT, I've been working out very hard since then and I’m down to 185 mostly MUSCLE... I've been at a plateau for a little while now and I'm really trying hard to loose maybe like 4-5 lbs. that are still covering my abs, my buddy recommended this "sup" and I bought it and took it for a day without realizing, it was a prohormone... I freaked when I realized because of all the horror stories I read online when initially searching. But I've done more specific research and I've decided to embrace the prohormone for what it is and go balls to the wall, as hard as I can go for this month and see what kind of progress I can achieve. I'm actually quite excited now and I ask for ya’lls help...hmy:
I need some guidance and advice as to what I should and shouldn’t be taking during my cycle, and also for PCT as I do not have these things lined up yet. Please save your criticism as far as my preparedness, I UNDERSTAND I'M STUPID FOR NOT DOING MY HOMEWORK FIRST. I had no idea what I was getting myself into, but I'm on day three now and I’m actually excited so please help and don't bog this post down with negative crap!!...
The specific prohormone that I’m using I could not find any info about the brand at all, but when searching the chemicals inside I found out it is a Halodrol/Epistane mix @ 50/30 per day (25/15 per pill)... That’s good because according to what I’ve read so far these two have the least side effects, are great for beginners, and have dry gains, and can actually help with cutting, Right??...
My goal is to pack on an extra 4-5 pounds of muscle and hopefully get rid of the belly fat I gots left...
Specific Questions That I have:
1. What (if anything) is necessary for me to take during the cycle? (I am taking B Sups, Fish Oil, Multi-Vita, and Protein shakes 2-3x) also I’ve stopped all my other sups and fat burners that I was previously using…
2. The bottle says take two daily, I’ve been taking two @ 8 hours apart daily so far… And I’ll have enough for 4 weeks total, would it be beneficial for me to run this any longer? 5 weeks? Up the dosage on the 4th and 5th week possibly? As of right now I’m not sure…
3. If I’m trying to cut the belly fat and get my abs showing, while also bulking on the Halodrol/Epistane how many calories should I be eating? I typically eat about 2400… Should I up the Cals? Stay the same? Drop em?
4. Most importantly, PCT. I have nothing lined up yet but I’ve been doing my research… Sex is SUPER important to me :tazWell, Duh!) But, seriously. So I’de like to avoid/minimize any sexual side effects as much as possible… I’m going to get a SERM for experimentation with my pet lab rats (as long as I can get one as easily as everyone on this forum says I can) Which Serm would be best? I’ve read that Clomiphene for the first week with Tamoxifen all 4 weeks of PCT, does that sound right? Would this be overkill with the cycle I am on? Could there be negative effects from too much SERM? What else should I throw in the mix for Test and Cortisol control PCT??
Thank you so much everyone, and again please try and keep the negative crap to a minimum, I know I’m a newb OOOOK??! :blush:
4) Get one of the SERMs Nolva/Clomid/Torem. Two would be overkill. The negative effects that are associated with serms will occur if you take to much such as hot flashes, mood swings, weight loss, and lethargy. Also I would get HCGenerate and run it along with for pct or get:
Something to increase free test
Something to maximize natural test
Something to act as an aromatase inhibitor
These will help to keep libido up, you could also look into rs-transaderm
For me Nolva as my choice SERM.
Also why stack Hella and Epi both are geared towards lean gains but are both methalyted. I would suggest Hella stacked with Katana would be a nicer stack in terms of compounds complimenting each other and easier on the liver.
Ok. How are you. Thanks for coming to N2BM and thank you for joining. My first question would be how long have you been working out. I know you said the past 9 months, but is that the extent of it, or was there a short break or something in between and you have been working out for a few years etc. Just trying to get some basic info. With that, if you have only been training for 9 months, I would have told you to wait way much longer before trying the PH/Legal designer route, a few years at least. That being said, you are alreay taking these supps so the above is kinda mute. Normally I would not provide info to someone that just started 9 months ago (if that is the case I can be wrong). Anyway, ok, so you have been on this designer for four days and you are having trouble sleeping. Yes, that does occur, it has happened to me several times. It even happened to me when I was using Anebeta (natty supp). Anyway, just go buy some Melatonin at the vitamin store. Its very cheap. Just pop one or two caps a night and it should help you sleep fine. Also you can look into a product we carry in the store here called "N2Sleep" which contains Melatonin. Good product, its what I have.
As far as the cycle, I always run Helladrol (Halo) and Epistane solo both for 6 weeks. If yiu can tun it six weeks then fine, but you said you onkly have one bottle that will last four weeks. Yes, four weeks is fine, esp if this is your first cycle. Again, to be clear, I would have chosen just one of those if this was my first cycle, not both. Anyway, I always run a tets booster of some sort on cycle to help with Libido, sec drive, lethargy, etc, and for me, its always been HcGenerate or Dermacrine/Transaderm. What I do now is run Transderm on cycle (same time as PH) at 5 pumps a day and then I use HcGenerate as part of my PCT at 5 caps a day split 3/2. On cycle make sure you are taking something to help combat sides, ie, blodd pressure, cholesterol, etc. I use N2Guard now, but ion the past I was using CEL Cycle Assist.
My PCT always consists of
1)HcGeneate
2) FormaStanzol
3) Unleased/Post Cycle
4) Creatine
5) Will consist of DAA and Anebeta from now on as well.
As far the PH helping you cut up etc. Alot of it will have to do with your nutrition and cardio. I have used these PHs both ways, it, for bulking and cutting. I have had great results both ways. If I am bulkiing, I do less cardio and eat a high calorie diet, and if I am cutting, I do the opposite.
Hope this helps and if you have any questions, or if I missed anything, contact me..SJ