Approved Log First Cycle Plan and Log

[steadfastsavage]

Hey guys,
Total new guy here so please forgive me in advance.

Personal Details
38 year old male in the USA
158 lbs after my recent cut
5'10
~8% bf (not measured, just what people have told me visually)

Only been training about a year. Typically train 6 days a week based on body part split right now. Open to ideas on best training now that I am trying to gain mass.

Diet
2585 cal
300g Carbs
200g Protein
65g Fat

Focus as much as I can on whole foods. Would love suggestions to make meal planning easy as I have 6 kids and our house gets crazy. The easier I can make this while staying as lean and healthy as possible, the better. I'm all ears!

Banana or protein bar before gym at 4:30am
Usually organic oats or oat bran with a scoop of whey isolate for breakfast post workout. Maybe throw in an apple with cinnamon depending on how I feel.

protein snack midmorning of some beef jerkey

lunch is usually a high fiber pasta or sweet potatoes with a lean protein like grilled chicken, canned chicken or organic turkey breast.

Depending on the day, maybe a protein bar or shake in the afternoon.

dinner is usually lighter on carbs with more lean protein. Maybe a 93/7 ground turkey, chicken breast, or seafood with veggies and some avocado oil, mct oil or grassfed butter for fats.

I just finished my cut about a week ago (lost 30lbs) so these calories are already new for me. I was only eating about 1500 calories during the cut. Not sure how much or how fast I should increase over 2500 now as I think I still need more while trying to get big.

SUPPLEMENTS
Brain MD Brain and Body Power MAX https://brainmd.com/brain-body-power-max
Tongkat Ali
Fadogia Agrestis
5mg Creatine
Whey Protein Isolate from Isopure or 1st Phorm
Transparent Labs Bulk Black Preworkout
Vitamin D 2400IU (as Calcifediol)
Finasteride 1mg oral and minoxidil 5% topical for hair thinning (thanks dad)

CYCLE HELP

I was just prescribed TRT of 200mg test cyp weekly due to low total T of 259 and free T of 44. They told me to pin 2x per week at 100mg Monday and Thursday. This is my first and only time venturing into the world of steroid use but I'm currently still in information overload mode and trying to figure out how to put on MASS that holds after the 4 months of cut I was on. I have read a lot and know you guys may just say to do test only to start but I'm looking to bulk as quickly and safely as possible while keeping as much of the gains as I can (probably the same thing most guys are chasing). I will never be competing. Wondering if I should actually use the TRT dose to get started or order more to up the dose for a certain length of time before dropping back down to the normal trt dose.

I have a friend that suggested Primo at 300mg along with 50mg Anavar to just go with my standard TRT dose but this seems extremely minor for quite a bit of money. I was looking at 50mg Anadrol along with some Nolva as estrogen blocker and AI as needed. Also got a TUDCA (1000mg) and NAC(200mg) supplement for liver support. Open to an and all suggestions for the cycle and timing. Don't want to rush this but really want to dive in and commit.

I have not really explored PCT as it doesnt look like ill be coming off TRT and not 100% on what cycle I'll be doing. Looking for experts to help guide me.

Thank you all for the amazing community and looking forward to hearing from you all!

 

[Noah Wixx]

If you've never used test before and you just started trt I would just stick with trt, no reason logically ordering more out the gate and upping the dose.

The fact you are this low, 200mg is gonna plenty and you definitely will feel the difference going from low T into high normal which 200mg a week is gonna kick hard for you.

Being brand new with all of this, I would get comfortable with the dose run the required bloodwork and document how you feel and the differences you notice feel and see.

If you started a log on here you can document the journey and all of us can offer help and advice while on the journey.

Plenty of us are on trt and have cycle experience that range from beginner level into advanced levels of knowledge.

Are you running just trt or do you anti estrogen medicine in play as well or hcg by chance? What is the full protocol.

Don't listen with what the friend is saying, anything added into trt is no longer trt it is a cycle no matter how big or small its a cycle, you being so new I wouldn't add anything, you need time for hormones to balance out and the body to get used to the test and for establishing a baseline.

Once you are far enough along you can start with experimenting, this is not something you just add other compounds into the mix without the proper education or knowledge first.

So many guys make the mistake of doing that and they pay the price for it, just ease in study learn ask us questions and enjoy the change, 200mg a week u will see plenty difference in the mind muscle and overall wellbeing.

Hope that helps brother, welcome into the community

 

[steadfastsavage]

Thanks @Noah Wixx!

This was meant to be the start of my log so if I did something wrong, please let me know.

The full protocol is 200mg test cyp pinning 2x week on monday and thursday and Arimidex for the AI as needed. It's from TRT Nation out of Florida, US if that helps.

Is pinning 2x weekly right, wrong, or is everyone different? I see everything on here from everyday to 1x weekly for test cyp.

Thanks again! Looking forward to learning all I can in the coming months while things level out. Any suggestions on how long I should wait? I do follow up bloods in about 8 weeks I think he mentioned.

 

[Noah Wixx]

Thanks @Noah Wixx!

This was meant to be the start of my log so if I did something wrong, please let me know.

The full protocol is 200mg test cyp pinning 2x week on monday and thursday and Arimidex for the AI as needed. It's from TRT Nation out of Florida, US if that helps.

Is pinning 2x weekly right, wrong, or is everyone different? I see everything on here from everyday to 1x weekly for test cyp.

Thanks again! Looking forward to learning all I can in the coming months while things level out. Any suggestions on how long I should wait? I do follow up bloods in about 8 weeks I think he mentioned.

No brother you did nothing wrong I misunderstood you, that is completely on me and I apologize about that, thank you for correcting me.

Don't get caught up in what everyone else is doing, absolutely read the posts and learn as much as you can, typically a standard protocol is x2 a week for trt injections and some cycles as well just depends on how many compounds you run and the dosesage of each one.

I'm running 3 injectables with my current log and cycle and I split the Injection x3 a week because I can Inject less volume of oil into the muscles so they don't become super irritated from alot of volume.

I also put all the oils into one syringe less pokes easiest way for rotation of sites for injections as you don't want to continuously injection around or in the same spot each week, less scar tissue and chances of things feeling uncomfortable over time.

What is the mg amount they prescribed you for the Arimidex, unless you convert estrogen easily u don't need much at all each week.

you can get the test and the AI much cheaper from one of our many approved sources on here if u ever chose to go down that route, option is open so you know, plenty do it that way.

Log looks great brother you doing well so far and ask anything you like this community is great with helping out.

 

[Mobster]

Deffo 8% based on that photo

 

[stevesmi]

nice job on the cut you are definitely lean and you've got those abs showing which is amazing for any American

from here we have to make sure you stay lean and you put on good clean muscle mass

 

[steadfastsavage]

nice job on the cut you are definitely lean and you've got those abs showing which is amazing for any American

from here we have to make sure you stay lean and you put on good clean muscle mass

Thanks! Any recommendations for the diet aspect of things now while I wait for my hormones to level out? I went straight from my cut to what I feel is maintenance calories at 2585 per day. Macros at 300C, 65F, and 200P. I am starting my test inj today or tomorrow. Anything I should change right away diet wise.

Would also love to hear if you guys are utilizing any specific workout program or regimen like PHAT, PHUL, 5x5 or if most of you just build your own workouts based on weaknesses?

Thanks again. This community is fire!

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Hey guys,
Total new guy here so please forgive me in advance.

Personal Details
38 year old male in the USA
158 lbs after my recent cut
5'10
~8% bf (not measured, just what people have told me visually)

Only been training about a year. Typically train 6 days a week based on body part split right now. Open to ideas on best training now that I am trying to gain mass.

Diet
2585 cal
300g Carbs
200g Protein
65g Fat

Focus as much as I can on whole foods. Would love suggestions to make meal planning easy as I have 6 kids and our house gets crazy. The easier I can make this while staying as lean and healthy as possible, the better. I'm all ears!

Banana or protein bar before gym at 4:30am
Usually organic oats or oat bran with a scoop of whey isolate for breakfast post workout. Maybe throw in an apple with cinnamon depending on how I feel.

protein snack midmorning of some beef jerkey

lunch is usually a high fiber pasta or sweet potatoes with a lean protein like grilled chicken, canned chicken or organic turkey breast.

Depending on the day, maybe a protein bar or shake in the afternoon.

dinner is usually lighter on carbs with more lean protein. Maybe a 93/7 ground turkey, chicken breast, or seafood with veggies and some avocado oil, mct oil or grassfed butter for fats.

I just finished my cut about a week ago (lost 30lbs) so these calories are already new for me. I was only eating about 1500 calories during the cut. Not sure how much or how fast I should increase over 2500 now as I think I still need more while trying to get big.

SUPPLEMENTS
Brain MD Brain and Body Power MAX https://brainmd.com/brain-body-power-max
Tongkat Ali
Fadogia Agrestis
5mg Creatine
Whey Protein Isolate from Isopure or 1st Phorm
Transparent Labs Bulk Black Preworkout
Vitamin D 2400IU (as Calcifediol)
Finasteride 1mg oral and minoxidil 5% topical for hair thinning (thanks dad)

CYCLE HELP

I was just prescribed TRT of 200mg test cyp weekly due to low total T of 259 and free T of 44. They told me to pin 2x per week at 100mg Monday and Thursday. This is my first and only time venturing into the world of steroid use but I'm currently still in information overload mode and trying to figure out how to put on MASS that holds after the 4 months of cut I was on. I have read a lot and know you guys may just say to do test only to start but I'm looking to bulk as quickly and safely as possible while keeping as much of the gains as I can (probably the same thing most guys are chasing). I will never be competing. Wondering if I should actually use the TRT dose to get started or order more to up the dose for a certain length of time before dropping back down to the normal trt dose.

I have a friend that suggested Primo at 300mg along with 50mg Anavar to just go with my standard TRT dose but this seems extremely minor for quite a bit of money. I was looking at 50mg Anadrol along with some Nolva as estrogen blocker and AI as needed. Also got a TUDCA (1000mg) and NAC(200mg) supplement for liver support. Open to an and all suggestions for the cycle and timing. Don't want to rush this but really want to dive in and commit.

I have not really explored PCT as it doesnt look like ill be coming off TRT and not 100% on what cycle I'll be doing. Looking for experts to help guide me.

Thank you all for the amazing community and looking forward to hearing from you all!

@steadfastsavage good start to the log you the man!

diet, its good you posted general, but please post actual TIME meals and foods and amounts so we can judge your actual diet
training, its a must to get real training, post your exercises reps sets and weights
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

for your cycle, Tamoxifen and Oxymetholone is a bad mix IMO especially with anadrol direct impact on the E2 receptor. I suggest Primobolan with tbol for you, 300mgs primobolan 50mgs tbol.
But i'd like to get more info about you first, can you share the above info please


for pictures, you look amazing SUPER base seriously!
but we need more pictures
pictures of your TRT gear
pics of your meals
pics of training
pics of supps you take

 

[steadfastsavage]

@steadfastsavage good start to the log you the man!

diet, its good you posted general, but please post actual TIME meals and foods and amounts so we can judge your actual diet
training, its a must to get real training, post your exercises reps sets and weights
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

for your cycle, Tamoxifen and Oxymetholone is a bad mix IMO especially with anadrol direct impact on the E2 receptor. I suggest Primobolan with tbol for you, 300mgs primobolan 50mgs tbol.
But i'd like to get more info about you first, can you share the above info please


for pictures, you look amazing SUPER base seriously!
but we need more pictures
pictures of your TRT gear
pics of your meals
pics of training
pics of supps you take

Thanks for the reply! Here’s a bunch of pictures you asked for of my food with MyFitnessPal for quantities and times for tonight, my supplements, my trt gear, workout log for this morning (I also walked 2 miles which isn’t listed). Also i

Going to do my first trt injection tonight. 100mg ventrogluteal IM injection.

 

[steadfastsavage]

@steadfastsavage good start to the log you the man!

diet, its good you posted general, but please post actual TIME meals and foods and amounts so we can judge your actual diet
training, its a must to get real training, post your exercises reps sets and weights
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

for your cycle, Tamoxifen and Oxymetholone is a bad mix IMO especially with anadrol direct impact on the E2 receptor. I suggest Primobolan with tbol for you, 300mgs primobolan 50mgs tbol.
But i'd like to get more info about you first, can you share the above info please


for pictures, you look amazing SUPER base seriously!
but we need more pictures
pictures of your TRT gear
pics of your meals
pics of training
pics of supps you take

More pictures

 

[Noah Wixx]

You look fantastic brother! Excellent work and I agree definitely 8% doing it right and putting on the work paying off, you are a prime example of that.

 

[ceo]

Bros good job so far keep it up
we are just beginning

 

[ROIDDERS]

my suggestion is pick up an air fryer and a grill
you can get one of those George Foreman grills or an outdoor grill

 

[chesty]

yes with a grill and an air fryer you can cook just about anything
I cook lots of chicken and beef for the entire week in one hour

 

[Ulter]

a rice cooker is really smart too
you can cook rice and vegetables in it

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

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[e2]

my advice on diet is increase your vegetables
and then when it comes to protein and good fats add in some avocado and maybe some red meat here and there

 

[2Thick]

you are doing good so far nice and lean
keep it going and now we need to build more muscle mass

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

you are going to look like a beast
a couple Cycles from now you will look incredible I predict

 

[MONSTRO]

monstro says once you start a tren/masteron stack watch out!
you will be on stage before you know it