First Cycle Suggestions

[ATXdude]

Hey guys—long time lurker, first time poster. Been lifting for a few years but relatively new to cycling. Was doing TRT with occasional Deca through Low T Center but decided I wanted to go it my own. I'm on my first true cycle now and wanted to get everyone's thoughts. I'm 37, 6'4", 190 and don't drink/smoke. I'm not looking to go hard this time since I'm easing into it but if these levels won't do much of anything, I also want to know that, too. How does this sound for 16 weeks:

300mg / Test E / week (two shots)
100mg / Deca / week (one shot)
0.25mg / Anastrozole / week
50mg / Proviron / day
300mg / P5P / day

I would do more deca (it really helps with my joint pain) but I suffer from DD even at pretty low doses (sildenafil helps some) but I try to keep my test much higher and my estrogen levels managed with the anastrozole (bloods revealed higher e levels when I got on test). Some guys rec'd P5P to manage prolactin to help with the DD, and I'm hoping proviron will also help boost libido. I've never done PCT since I was always low-dosing test e year round through TRT but if that's not recommended, would like to hear what people rec for PCT. Really appreciate any thoughts, y'all.

 

[s.gentz]

Deca is prob a bit low. If your can’t take it up consider using EQ. You would likely not new the AI on that cycle and could drop the proviron as well.

 

[ATXdude]

Thanks s.gentz.
I should've mentioned, I'm going for bulking right now. I'm at 190 and aiming for 210 before cutting in a few months. I could up to maybe 400mg of test/week and 200mg of deca/week? I would do more of deca but if it means not having sex for the entire cycle/weeks afterwards, it's just not worth it to me. I've heard by keeping the test well above the deca, you're helping prevent DD, do you know if that's true? At those levels, I'm assuming the AI and proviron might be necessary?

 

[s.gentz]

Thanks s.gentz.
I should've mentioned, I'm going for bulking right now. I'm at 190 and aiming for 210 before cutting in a few months. I could up to maybe 400mg of test/week and 200mg of deca/week? I would do more of deca but if it means not having sex for the entire cycle/weeks afterwards, it's just not worth it to me. I've heard by keeping the test well above the deca, you're helping prevent DD, do you know if that's true? At those levels, I'm assuming the AI and proviron might be necessary?

Eq is great for bulking. I just ran a test Eq Deca cycle. Starting to diet back down.
As far as the test deca ratio I would just keep them equal or close. I’ve always done that and ran proviron and haven’t had any dick issues.
300 test
300 Deca would work great or add in Eq as well. Would run that around 400-600.
Let us know what you decide and make sure you log your cycle.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Hey guys—long time lurker, first time poster. Been lifting for a few years but relatively new to cycling. Was doing TRT with occasional Deca through Low T Center but decided I wanted to go it my own. I'm on my first true cycle now and wanted to get everyone's thoughts. I'm 37, 6'4", 190 and don't drink/smoke. I'm not looking to go hard this time since I'm easing into it but if these levels won't do much of anything, I also want to know that, too. How does this sound for 16 weeks:

300mg / Test E / week (two shots)
100mg / Deca / week (one shot)
0.25mg / Anastrozole / week
50mg / Proviron / day
300mg / P5P / day

I would do more deca (it really helps with my joint pain) but I suffer from DD even at pretty low doses (sildenafil helps some) but I try to keep my test much higher and my estrogen levels managed with the anastrozole (bloods revealed higher e levels when I got on test). Some guys rec'd P5P to manage prolactin to help with the DD, and I'm hoping proviron will also help boost libido. I've never done PCT since I was always low-dosing test e year round through TRT but if that's not recommended, would like to hear what people rec for PCT. Really appreciate any thoughts, y'all.

Thanks s.gentz.
I should've mentioned, I'm going for bulking right now. I'm at 190 and aiming for 210 before cutting in a few months. I could up to maybe 400mg of test/week and 200mg of deca/week? I would do more of deca but if it means not having sex for the entire cycle/weeks afterwards, it's just not worth it to me. I've heard by keeping the test well above the deca, you're helping prevent DD, do you know if that's true? At those levels, I'm assuming the AI and proviron might be necessary?

@ATXdude welcome to the big evolutionary.org family WE are happy to have you on the team and in the family.

on the cycle front, I like the cycle and I like the test but I like it closer to 400mgs with deca closer to 300mgs and if you have erectile issues, add proviron 50mgs ed and tadalafil 10mgs eod but you can drop the deca to 200mgs or try NPP
and organ liver support n2guard is a must 7caps ed

BUT you know the above advice is really shooting in the dark right? im just guessing because we dont know much about you ,so if you want REAL help, we need you to start a NEW thread with your LOG Journal diary with diet training cardio sleep and supplements and more. (what you doing NOW before you even inject)

@s.gentz answered you above and he has logs going, he's a competitive bodybuilder with great logs you can see on EVO as example:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ut-log-vacation-2-23-2024-prep-contest.96578/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2023-2024-bulk-log.89292/

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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/contest-peak-cycle-this-year.85007/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-cycle.84662/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/summer-bulking-cycle.85543/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/lefr34ks-training-log.85141/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsys-training-log.83248/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/echos-hgh-log-and-cycle.85429/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-cycle-log.85538/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

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[stevesmi]

Although you are on trt I still encourage people to stick to 12 week only on Cycles as a Max it's just much more healthier for your organs

 

[Mobster]

What do you weigh?

 

[ceo]

bros Welcome to The Forum it's good to see you
a lot of people will use around 300 to 500 milligrams of deca and testosterone

 

[ROIDDERS]

I think it makes most sense to just run proviron and cialis while on cycle
that will take care of ED issues. but log it for us

 

[chesty]

best thing you can do is set up a log Journal
this will ensure that you are getting the best results
and we can track things as they go along

 

[Ulter]

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[e2]

would love for you to start a log
tell us more about you and put up pictures we want to see where you're coming from and where you want to go

 

[2Thick]

one of the best things you can do is tell us about your history and why you're already on trt and you're not even 40 years old
seems like you live a healthy lifestyle so it doesn't make any sense

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

test, deca, and adex is a good stack i like it
now log this. it has the potential to be a great bulker!

 

[MONSTRO]

deca/test is not my kind of cycle
i am more of a bodybuilder but that fits your goals at sounds like
can you put up a log Journal you seem to have a lot of room to grow with your stats

 

[JasonPriest]

if you haven't purchased your gear yet please consider domestic Supply they have everything on your list and I think its a good blueprint

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro raise that shit up more. deca needs to be 400mgs +

 

[Quadsweep]

i would run deca 200-300mgs a week. 100mgs is too low IMO
ugfreak.to has you covered

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Since you are bulking, I would definitely increase the deca to 400mg. The proviron should help with any libido/ED issues.