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First cycle - test+eq

Eugene18

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Hello everyone! I'm 20 years old male, 180 cm, 60 kg. Training MMA and going gym. I need to gain about 15 kg of muscle mass. Have some problems with joints, but not serious ones. This is my first cycle, I'm thinking about test enanthate 375 mg and 375 mg boldenone (eq). Please don't say that it's a young age, I know, but need advices on cycle.
 
Hello everyone! I'm 20 years old male, 180 cm, 60 kg. Training MMA and going gym. I need to gain about 15 kg of muscle mass. Have some problems with joints, but not serious ones. This is my first cycle, I'm thinking about test enanthate 375 mg and 375 mg boldenone (eq). Please don't say that it's a young age, I know, but need advices on cycle.
Gear is not gonna give you 15kg of good weight. What does your current training and diet look like. We can help you make an educated decision but we need much more info about you. Can you post a pic?
 
Gear is not gonna give you 15kg of good weight. What does your current training and diet look like. We can help you make an educated decision but we need much more info about you. Can you post a pic?
I eat regular food 4 times a day, cereals, 1 liter of milk, meat, pizzas, pasta etc. I train MMA 4-5 times a day for about 2 hours. And go to the gym, but can't go often, trying to go 3-4 times a week, but not always. Doing leg day, back day and arm day.
 
I eat regular food 4 times a day, cereals, 1 liter of milk, meat, pizzas, pasta etc. I train MMA 4-5 times a day for about 2 hours. And go to the gym, but can't go often, trying to go 3-4 times a week, but not always. Doing leg day, back day and arm day.
I’m gonna give you much credit for being honest. Most younger guys would just lie and say they are perfect. Sounds like your training/eating is not optimal for putting on hood size. Steroids won’t make up for this. I would start to get a little more serious about the diet and weight training portion of your training. I think once these items get fixed you should try a sarms cycle to get started. Save the steroids for a little later when you can make the most out of them.
Building muscle is a long game even with good genetics.
 
I’m gonna give you much credit for being honest. Most younger guys would just lie and say they are perfect. Sounds like your training/eating is not optimal for putting on hood size. Steroids won’t make up for this. I would start to get a little more serious about the diet and weight training portion of your training. I think once these items get fixed you should try a sarms cycle to get started. Save the steroids for a little later when you can make the most out of them.

Building muscle is a long game even with good genetics.



I gained 9 kg since summer began. But I need to get in 70 kg weight class in 3 months. What do you think about cycle I posted? And Sarms aren't much studied yet, so thanks, but I won't use them.
 
I think 10kg of muscle in 3 months is not doable even if your weight training and eating are on point. You would prob have to drop the mma training a great deal as well.
Even with gear you may gain the weight but it will be mostly water.
can you post a pic? What do your weight training days look like?
@rememberTHE5 might be able to give you some direction on the training/Diet as she is a fighter as well. Check out her log.
 
I think 10kg of muscle in 3 months is not doable even if your weight training and eating are on point. You would prob have to drop the mma training a great deal as well.

Even with gear you may gain the weight but it will be mostly water.

can you post a pic? What do your weight training days look like?

@rememberTHE5 might be able to give you some direction on the training/Diet as she is a fighter as well. Check out her log.



Sorry, don't want to post a pic. Leg day is leg extensions, leg curls, bicycle sprint. I wanna add squats and deadlifts, but need to buy a pad for a barbell. Back day is lat pull-down, pull ups, low seated row. Arm day is Scott biceps curl machine, triceps pull down, shoulder press machine, bench press and peck deck. I mix them sometimes, when don't have a time for each day.
 
Understand about the pic.
I think you can make a lot of progress without drugs. You need to get the diet and training on point for your goals. I can’t recommend you take anything at your age due to the fact that your body is still developing and you really don’t want to mess with your hormones at this stage. You could do serious damage that you will have to deal with the rest of your life.
 
my opinion is your diet is crap
you are only 20 years old
and you already have joint problems which A: means your diet is crap and B: you aren't training correctly

you have zero good fats in your diet which is a recipe for disaster.
 
my opinion is your diet is crap



you are only 20 years old



and you already have joint problems which A: means your diet is crap and B: you aren't training correctly







you have zero good fats in your diet which is a recipe for disaster.
 
Hello everyone! I'm 20 years old male, 180 cm, 60 kg. Training MMA and going gym. I need to gain about 15 kg of muscle mass. Have some problems with joints, but not serious ones. This is my first cycle, I'm thinking about test enanthate 375 mg and 375 mg boldenone (eq). Please don't say that it's a young age, I know, but need advices on cycle.
Other opinions are welcome too. Thank you for the advice, but I'm still gonna do it.
I didn't tell my whole diet, I eat nuts, milk, meat, so I get fats, even more than needed.
@Eugene18 well welcome to evolutionary.org forums. I don't like 20 year olds using steroids but since you are going to use it no matter what we can help you set up a steroid cycle thats more safe, i would say just testosterone so test-only cycle but BEFORE we do that, we need to see your diet training LOG journal to see where you're at to guide you into a cycle.

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Pre-cycle Diet Training Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2023-2024-bulk-log.89292/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/princedaddy-2023-log-here-we-go-again.87659/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-cycle-training-log.86383/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/dozers-journey-to-the-stage-and-cycle.84184/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-time-tren-log.87653/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-anavar-rad140-cardarine-cycle-log.86174/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/contest-peak-cycle-this-year.85007/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-cycle.84662/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/summer-bulking-cycle.85543/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/lefr34ks-training-log.85141/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsys-training-log.83248/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/echos-hgh-log-and-cycle.85429/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-cycle-log.85538/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

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this is a huge mistake but atleast do it correctly
 
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