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Approved Log First LOG - TRT and weight loss journey

Mucka

V.I.P.
EVO Logger
About me:
Good day all, first time ever doing something like this, felt fairly comfortable with the Evolutionary family here and I thought it would be beneficial to share my journey and collaborate with you all on my journey as I seek fitness and health advice.

Stats/History

Started my TRT journey roughly a year ago now, and I had some ups and downs at the start, I finally got a few things dialed and had my E2 under control with the help of some primo which seemed to work well for me and managed my E2 ( I have never taken any AI) and started to really shed some pounds. I blew my MCL out in hockey, which caused a minor setback. With recovery exercises and some peptides I bounced back rather quickly. Also I went through a phase with a shitty UGL supplier and seemed to really mess with my test levels and was very inconsistent and got some pretty bad PIP in some cases.

Stats

• Age - 36
• Height - 6'1"
• Weight - 245lbs / 113kg

Supplements / Dosage

• Testosterone Cypionate
○ 200mg per week split into 3 injections M,W,F
• Cod liver oil
• Magnesium
• High quality Multi
• Non stim pre workouts
• BCAA
• 10mg creatine daily

Bloodwork:

Taken November 15th 2024 I will update very soon. It is kind of shit to get constant bloods in Canada.. open for suggestion on that. Test free is not an option on my bloodwork sheet for example.
• Testosterone Total = 21.6nmol/L or 622ng/ml
• Estradiol 109 pmol/L or 29 pg/ml
• TSH = 6.50 miU/L
• CBC and Diff- I recently donated so this should be lower now - CBC and Diff Link
• Lipids - Lipids Link

Training / Cardio

I recently just finished a PPL program, one of Ryan Humistons. I really enjoyed it and love the data he puts into the programs.
currently I am doing a bro split, as I am hard on myself and feel somewhat too overweight and want to utilize more cardio.

6 days a week training the exercises and body parts often switch days but here is an idea.

Monday- Cardio: Core usually end up doing 45-50 minutes of cardio
Tuesday - Chest: I end up doing about 4 exercises then 20 min of cardio
Wed- Back: Again about 4 exercises depending on time then 20 min cardio
Thursday- Legs: Same as above
Friday: Arms Same
Sat: Shoulders- Same
Sunday- Rest

Diet

Monday-Friday

I am pretty damn consistent with diet, and feel I do not eat enough. The weekend I cook with my wife and we generally keep these meals pretty damn healthy, although I do eat more on these meals.

Meal 1:
• 4 eggs with 1/3 cup egg whites
• 1 deer or elk sausage
• 1/4 cup almond or brasil nuts
• 1 protein bar
• Meal 2:
• Shake after gym
○ 2 scoops protein powder
○ 1/2 cup mixed frozen berry's
○ 1 cup of soy milk
• Meal 3:
• This varies but here are some examples
○ Option #1 - 1/2 pound ground beef with mixed veg, rice and some yam
○ Option #2 - 1/2 pound ground beef with chickpea pasta and veg
○ Option #3 - Chicken breast with vegetables and yam or rice
○ Option #4 - Steak with yams and side salad

Goals / Questions

I get very down on myself and my physique at times, as it seems I fluctuate weight a lot and I get hyper focused on the number that on the scale when all my clothes and my appearance seems to stay the same.

I would like to loose maybe 20 pounds

Should I be looking at an AI ? Or maybe running some primo again? My E2 in my last bloods seems within range but I feel a bit bloated and down on myself again... This time last year I was in better shape 5 months after I started TRT... Which makes me upset and confused. I know it was just less fat.. As I do carry a lot more muscle now.

Love this community, thanks for taking the time to read my log! I will try to update as frequent as possible :)
 

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Great start to this.
Your goal is well within reach with consistency
 
About me:
Good day all, first time ever doing something like this, felt fairly comfortable with the Evolutionary family here and I thought it would be beneficial to share my journey and collaborate with you all on my journey as I seek fitness and health advice.

Stats/History

Started my TRT journey roughly a year ago now, and I had some ups and downs at the start, I finally got a few things dialed and had my E2 under control with the help of some primo which seemed to work well for me and managed my E2 ( I have never taken any AI) and started to really shed some pounds. I blew my MCL out in hockey, which caused a minor setback. With recovery exercises and some peptides I bounced back rather quickly. Also I went through a phase with a shitty UGL supplier and seemed to really mess with my test levels and was very inconsistent and got some pretty bad PIP in some cases.

Stats

• Age - 36
• Height - 6'1"
• Weight - 245lbs / 113kg

Supplements / Dosage

• Testosterone Cypionate
○ 200mg per week split into 3 injections M,W,F
• Cod liver oil
• Magnesium
• High quality Multi
• Non stim pre workouts
• BCAA
• 10mg creatine daily

Bloodwork:

Taken November 15th 2024 I will update very soon. It is kind of shit to get constant bloods in Canada.. open for suggestion on that. Test free is not an option on my bloodwork sheet for example.
• Testosterone Total = 21.6nmol/L or 622ng/ml
• Estradiol 109 pmol/L or 29 pg/ml
• TSH = 6.50 miU/L
• CBC and Diff- I recently donated so this should be lower now - CBC and Diff Link
• Lipids - Lipids Link

Training / Cardio

I recently just finished a PPL program, one of Ryan Humistons. I really enjoyed it and love the data he puts into the programs.
currently I am doing a bro split, as I am hard on myself and feel somewhat too overweight and want to utilize more cardio.

6 days a week training the exercises and body parts often switch days but here is an idea.

Monday- Cardio: Core usually end up doing 45-50 minutes of cardio
Tuesday - Chest: I end up doing about 4 exercises then 20 min of cardio
Wed- Back: Again about 4 exercises depending on time then 20 min cardio
Thursday- Legs: Same as above
Friday: Arms Same
Sat: Shoulders- Same
Sunday- Rest

Diet

Monday-Friday

I am pretty damn consistent with diet, and feel I do not eat enough. The weekend I cook with my wife and we generally keep these meals pretty damn healthy, although I do eat more on these meals.

Meal 1:
• 4 eggs with 1/3 cup egg whites
• 1 deer or elk sausage
• 1/4 cup almond or brasil nuts
• 1 protein bar
• Meal 2:
• Shake after gym
○ 2 scoops protein powder
○ 1/2 cup mixed frozen berry's
○ 1 cup of soy milk
• Meal 3:
• This varies but here are some examples
○ Option #1 - 1/2 pound ground beef with mixed veg, rice and some yam
○ Option #2 - 1/2 pound ground beef with chickpea pasta and veg
○ Option #3 - Chicken breast with vegetables and yam or rice
○ Option #4 - Steak with yams and side salad

Goals / Questions

I get very down on myself and my physique at times, as it seems I fluctuate weight a lot and I get hyper focused on the number that on the scale when all my clothes and my appearance seems to stay the same.

I would like to loose maybe 20 pounds

Should I be looking at an AI ? Or maybe running some primo again? My E2 in my last bloods seems within range but I feel a bit bloated and down on myself again... This time last year I was in better shape 5 months after I started TRT... Which makes me upset and confused. I know it was just less fat.. As I do carry a lot more muscle now.

Love this community, thanks for taking the time to read my log! I will try to update as frequent as possible :)
Great start bro.
Damn your a big boy you'll look shredded losing 10kg.
If you have put on fat then your eating excess, you obviously have a lot of food noise if you feel your not eating enough.
Can you afford to add low dose Semaglutide? Or Reta?
Also food calorie and macro logging, do a week at bare minimum so we can see what your intake is, eat as normal including the excess days and log everything.
 
Great start bro.
Damn your a big boy you'll look shredded losing 10kg.
If you have put on fat then your eating excess, you obviously have a lot of food noise if you feel your not eating enough.
Can you afford to add low dose Semaglutide? Or Reta?
Also food calorie and macro logging, do a week at bare minimum so we can see what your intake is, eat as normal including the excess days and log everything.
Thanks for the reply brother!

Yes about 6 months ago I was around 225 or so and was happy with the overall tightness and fat I was carrying, so will strive to get back there!

Although I can afford it, I personally want to do it without and make it obtainable for myself if that makes sense.

I most certainly need to get back to some logging good call, also I need to watch my alcoholic drinks intake, its not a ton but def adds up.
 
About me:
Good day all, first time ever doing something like this, felt fairly comfortable with the Evolutionary family here and I thought it would be beneficial to share my journey and collaborate with you all on my journey as I seek fitness and health advice.

Stats/History

Started my TRT journey roughly a year ago now, and I had some ups and downs at the start, I finally got a few things dialed and had my E2 under control with the help of some primo which seemed to work well for me and managed my E2 ( I have never taken any AI) and started to really shed some pounds. I blew my MCL out in hockey, which caused a minor setback. With recovery exercises and some peptides I bounced back rather quickly. Also I went through a phase with a shitty UGL supplier and seemed to really mess with my test levels and was very inconsistent and got some pretty bad PIP in some cases.

Stats

• Age - 36
• Height - 6'1"
• Weight - 245lbs / 113kg

Supplements / Dosage

• Testosterone Cypionate
○ 200mg per week split into 3 injections M,W,F
• Cod liver oil
• Magnesium
• High quality Multi
• Non stim pre workouts
• BCAA
• 10mg creatine daily

Bloodwork:

Taken November 15th 2024 I will update very soon. It is kind of shit to get constant bloods in Canada.. open for suggestion on that. Test free is not an option on my bloodwork sheet for example.
• Testosterone Total = 21.6nmol/L or 622ng/ml
• Estradiol 109 pmol/L or 29 pg/ml
• TSH = 6.50 miU/L
• CBC and Diff- I recently donated so this should be lower now - CBC and Diff Link
• Lipids - Lipids Link

Training / Cardio

I recently just finished a PPL program, one of Ryan Humistons. I really enjoyed it and love the data he puts into the programs.
currently I am doing a bro split, as I am hard on myself and feel somewhat too overweight and want to utilize more cardio.

6 days a week training the exercises and body parts often switch days but here is an idea.

Monday- Cardio: Core usually end up doing 45-50 minutes of cardio
Tuesday - Chest: I end up doing about 4 exercises then 20 min of cardio
Wed- Back: Again about 4 exercises depending on time then 20 min cardio
Thursday- Legs: Same as above
Friday: Arms Same
Sat: Shoulders- Same
Sunday- Rest

Diet

Monday-Friday

I am pretty damn consistent with diet, and feel I do not eat enough. The weekend I cook with my wife and we generally keep these meals pretty damn healthy, although I do eat more on these meals.

Meal 1:
• 4 eggs with 1/3 cup egg whites
• 1 deer or elk sausage
• 1/4 cup almond or brasil nuts
• 1 protein bar
• Meal 2:
• Shake after gym
○ 2 scoops protein powder
○ 1/2 cup mixed frozen berry's
○ 1 cup of soy milk
• Meal 3:
• This varies but here are some examples
○ Option #1 - 1/2 pound ground beef with mixed veg, rice and some yam
○ Option #2 - 1/2 pound ground beef with chickpea pasta and veg
○ Option #3 - Chicken breast with vegetables and yam or rice
○ Option #4 - Steak with yams and side salad

Goals / Questions

I get very down on myself and my physique at times, as it seems I fluctuate weight a lot and I get hyper focused on the number that on the scale when all my clothes and my appearance seems to stay the same.

I would like to loose maybe 20 pounds

Should I be looking at an AI ? Or maybe running some primo again? My E2 in my last bloods seems within range but I feel a bit bloated and down on myself again... This time last year I was in better shape 5 months after I started TRT... Which makes me upset and confused. I know it was just less fat.. As I do carry a lot more muscle now.

Love this community, thanks for taking the time to read my log! I will try to update as frequent as possible :)
@Mucka welcome open big arms to the EVO family bro ;) thank you for sharing your TRT journey

can you please post your bloods and blur personal info?

I get very down on myself and my physique at times, as it seems I fluctuate weight a lot and I get hyper focused on the number that on the scale when all my clothes and my appearance seems to stay the same.
you're not the first guy for this bro its body image issues
we all have body image issues here, called body dysmorphia thats why we on a steroid forum lol
nothing wrong with it, but knowing it and pushing yourself harder is a good thing ;) you have EVO family support for it

Should I be looking at an AI ? Or maybe running some primo again? My E2 in my last bloods seems within range but I feel a bit bloated and down on myself again... This time last year I was in better shape 5 months after I started TRT... Which makes me upset and confused. I know it was just less fat.. As I do carry a lot more muscle now.
its possible to do ai or primo bro but i want to see more details day to day with you diet training and more before we make any calls

and you listening to the podcast or reading our ebooks?
eBooks
download our eBooks and learn more about cycling:
https://irongorillas.com

Podcast
are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred (every 1-2 weeks)
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

thank you and share more :)
 
@Mucka welcome open big arms to the EVO family bro ;) thank you for sharing your TRT journey

can you please post your bloods and blur personal info?


you're not the first guy for this bro its body image issues
we all have body image issues here, called body dysmorphia thats why we on a steroid forum lol
nothing wrong with it, but knowing it and pushing yourself harder is a good thing ;) you have EVO family support for it


its possible to do ai or primo bro but i want to see more details day to day with you diet training and more before we make any calls

and you listening to the podcast or reading our ebooks?
eBooks
download our eBooks and learn more about cycling:
https://irongorillas.com

Podcast
are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred (every 1-2 weeks)
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

thank you and share more :)
Greatly appreciate your time brother, honestly. I feel the support! haha.

I certainly will start dropping some more info :)
 
Hey @Pigsy Total T 21.6nmol /L
Is it possible to be that low on that dosage and split or bunk gear?
It hard to say, seems low for that amount. But I seen on occasions, individual response from same gear, some seem low and others high.
 
About me:
Good day all, first time ever doing something like this, felt fairly comfortable with the Evolutionary family here and I thought it would be beneficial to share my journey and collaborate with you all on my journey as I seek fitness and health advice.

Stats/History

Started my TRT journey roughly a year ago now, and I had some ups and downs at the start, I finally got a few things dialed and had my E2 under control with the help of some primo which seemed to work well for me and managed my E2 ( I have never taken any AI) and started to really shed some pounds. I blew my MCL out in hockey, which caused a minor setback. With recovery exercises and some peptides I bounced back rather quickly. Also I went through a phase with a shitty UGL supplier and seemed to really mess with my test levels and was very inconsistent and got some pretty bad PIP in some cases.

Stats

• Age - 36
• Height - 6'1"
• Weight - 245lbs / 113kg

Supplements / Dosage

• Testosterone Cypionate
○ 200mg per week split into 3 injections M,W,F
• Cod liver oil
• Magnesium
• High quality Multi
• Non stim pre workouts
• BCAA
• 10mg creatine daily

Bloodwork:

Taken November 15th 2024 I will update very soon. It is kind of shit to get constant bloods in Canada.. open for suggestion on that. Test free is not an option on my bloodwork sheet for example.
• Testosterone Total = 21.6nmol/L or 622ng/ml
• Estradiol 109 pmol/L or 29 pg/ml
• TSH = 6.50 miU/L
• CBC and Diff- I recently donated so this should be lower now - CBC and Diff Link
• Lipids - Lipids Link

Training / Cardio

I recently just finished a PPL program, one of Ryan Humistons. I really enjoyed it and love the data he puts into the programs.
currently I am doing a bro split, as I am hard on myself and feel somewhat too overweight and want to utilize more cardio.

6 days a week training the exercises and body parts often switch days but here is an idea.

Monday- Cardio: Core usually end up doing 45-50 minutes of cardio
Tuesday - Chest: I end up doing about 4 exercises then 20 min of cardio
Wed- Back: Again about 4 exercises depending on time then 20 min cardio
Thursday- Legs: Same as above
Friday: Arms Same
Sat: Shoulders- Same
Sunday- Rest

Diet

Monday-Friday

I am pretty damn consistent with diet, and feel I do not eat enough. The weekend I cook with my wife and we generally keep these meals pretty damn healthy, although I do eat more on these meals.

Meal 1:
• 4 eggs with 1/3 cup egg whites
• 1 deer or elk sausage
• 1/4 cup almond or brasil nuts
• 1 protein bar
• Meal 2:
• Shake after gym
○ 2 scoops protein powder
○ 1/2 cup mixed frozen berry's
○ 1 cup of soy milk
• Meal 3:
• This varies but here are some examples
○ Option #1 - 1/2 pound ground beef with mixed veg, rice and some yam
○ Option #2 - 1/2 pound ground beef with chickpea pasta and veg
○ Option #3 - Chicken breast with vegetables and yam or rice
○ Option #4 - Steak with yams and side salad

Goals / Questions

I get very down on myself and my physique at times, as it seems I fluctuate weight a lot and I get hyper focused on the number that on the scale when all my clothes and my appearance seems to stay the same.

I would like to loose maybe 20 pounds

Should I be looking at an AI ? Or maybe running some primo again? My E2 in my last bloods seems within range but I feel a bit bloated and down on myself again... This time last year I was in better shape 5 months after I started TRT... Which makes me upset and confused. I know it was just less fat.. As I do carry a lot more muscle now.

Love this community, thanks for taking the time to read my log! I will try to update as frequent as possible :)
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