First Time SARM Stack Advice

[OwenSeiter]

What’s up guys, I’m a 21 year old male who is looking to start his first SARMS cycle. I’m 5’10” 160 lbs and about 8% BF. I’m mainly looking to get lean muscle growth and improved endurance out of this cycle, and any strength gains are a plus. I have 3 years of solid lifting/cardio up to this point.

I’m looking at running Cardarine (20mg/day) and Ostarine (25mg/day) from SARMS1, seeing that Cardarine will boost endurance and Ostarine will help with lean muscle gains. I’m trying to keep it realistic with this cycle, and am looking for 6-8 lbs of keepable gains. Nothing crazy, I understand this is my first cycle. Baby steps. As a side note, I’m not sold on S4 for what my goals are with this cycle, but maybe you guys can convince me on it. I understand it helps with muscle hardening and strength gains, but I feel like strength will be added regardless. After plenty of research, I’m thinking I should run this 12 weeks.

I’m looking for advice on the duration of the cycle, PCT, whether or not I should run anything alongside it, and the quantity I should order. Thanks guys.

 

[dylangemelli]

What’s up guys, I’m a 21 year old male who is looking to start his first SARMS cycle. I’m 5’10” 160 lbs and about 8% BF. I’m mainly looking to get lean muscle growth and improved endurance out of this cycle, and any strength gains are a plus. I have 3 years of solid lifting/cardio up to this point.

I’m looking at running Cardarine (20mg/day) and Ostarine (25mg/day) from SARMS1, seeing that Cardarine will boost endurance and Ostarine will help with lean muscle gains. I’m trying to keep it realistic with this cycle, and am looking for 6-8 lbs of keepable gains. Nothing crazy, I understand this is my first cycle. Baby steps. As a side note, I’m not sold on S4 for what my goals are with this cycle, but maybe you guys can convince me on it. I understand it helps with muscle hardening and strength gains, but I feel like strength will be added regardless. After plenty of research, I’m thinking I should run this 12 weeks.

I’m looking for advice on the duration of the cycle, PCT, whether or not I should run anything alongside it, and the quantity I should order. Thanks guys.

okay bro... your definitely on the right track here but you absolutely don't understand what you would be missing with s4... you ask around and you will find that most people find s4 to be the strongest of any sarm... you are correct about muscle hardening and strength, but your missing out on not only the endurance but the lean muscle growth... its QUALITY size... its called the triple stack because all three feed off each other... each one offers a certain benefit that basically coincides with its counterparts, making each other far more effective as opposed to being run as stand alones or two at a time... All three together provide maximum results as they all provide each other the opportunity to reach full potential... its up to you but your missing out not using s4...

here is the best way to run the cycle...

1-12 Ostarine 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m. www.sarms1.com
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m. www.sarms1.com
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout… www.sarms1.com
5-12 HcGenerate n2bm.com
1-12 “liquidex" n2bm.com


Mini pct 13-16

Hcgenerate ES n2bm.com
gw-501516 20 mg day www.sarms1.com

 

[RickRock]

Ostarine and GW is a nice combination, but I would strongly suggest the triple stack with s4 to make it even better. Either way I'm sure you will enjoy it

 

[jbranken]

I would definitely opt for the triple stack. S4 is the best of the sarms. You could also run LGD, cardarine, and s4 for some very impressive lean gains and fat loss. Then, run ostarine and some hcgenerate in pct to maintain what you gained on cycle while recovering at the same time

 

[25homes]

Think I would go s4 gw and lgd bro

 

[dylangemelli]

i gave you the most ideal layout bro... this is a proven cycle that is extremely effective...

 

[OwenSeiter]

Sorry for not getting back to you guys right away, but thanks for all of the insight. In terms of quantity, I take it one of the "SARMS TRIPLE STACK PROTOCOL" will get me through the cycle? And what quantity of HCGenerate and Liquidex AI Should I order? Just want to make sure I can get through X amount of weeks.

@Dylan - I am familiar with the cycle you provided, just didn't know what I should be running alongside it. And for the HcGenerate, I don't need to get the "ES" version, do I? I doubt I will need the "Erectile Support", but I know that probably helps with older guys on cycle, as well as with stronger cycles with steroids and prohormones.

@homes - Why would you recommend LGD over Ostarine? I know it's more potent, but have you just found it to be more effective? I'm open to all advice, I know you guys have the experience.

 

[Willindy120]

Dylan's set up he laid out is awesome.. i just finished it myself. Ran a full log over on ef. I'd highly recommend it. The S4 strength gains were great!

 

[gymrat827]

Dylan's set up he laid out is awesome.. i just finished it myself. Ran a full log over on ef. I'd highly recommend it. The S4 strength gains were great!

OP....trust me buddy, as one whose ran every sarm at least 3 times........you want S4 in there.

 

[dylangemelli]

Sorry for not getting back to you guys right away, but thanks for all of the insight. In terms of quantity, I take it one of the "SARMS TRIPLE STACK PROTOCOL" will get me through the cycle? And what quantity of HCGenerate and Liquidex AI Should I order? Just want to make sure I can get through X amount of weeks.

@Dylan - I am familiar with the cycle you provided, just didn't know what I should be running alongside it. And for the HcGenerate, I don't need to get the "ES" version, do I? I doubt I will need the "Erectile Support", but I know that probably helps with older guys on cycle, as well as with stronger cycles with steroids and prohormones.

@homes - Why would you recommend LGD over Ostarine? I know it's more potent, but have you just found it to be more effective? I'm open to all advice, I know you guys have the experience.

you only need the ES version for your pct... you could also run unleashed/post cycle instead...

you need two bottles of hcgenerate and two bottles of liquidex on cycle... for sarms you need 4 gw, 3 s4 and 2 mk... you can mix and match on the buy 2 get 1 free at www.sarms1.com... stick with the layout i gave you... its the most effective bro...

 

[hurricane]

Be sure to run a log bro! we will all jump in and help you when needed.

Give the s4 a shot.If the sides are too bad, try the 5 on 2 off or cut dosage.Most people can handle s4 but its not for everyone.

 

[Willindy120]

Be sure to run a log bro! we will all jump in and help you when needed.

Give the s4 a shot.If the sides are too bad, try the 5 on 2 off or cut dosage.Most people can handle s4 but its not for everyone.

Definitely throw up a log! I'd be in to follow

 

[OwenSeiter]

Alright guys, I am set on the SARMS1 Triple Stack and the cycle support options from n2bm. I think this will be worth the money, and I know my goals are reachable (6-8 pounds of lean muscle mass). I think without the S4, it would have made it a hell of a lot harder to reach the same goals (not taking anything away from GW or Osta). I don't know if I will be able to log it bros, just a lot going on right now as I prepare myself for another year of school.

I'll be going back to school in late August, which will be roughly halfway through my cycle. My ability to get to the gym in that first week will be very limited as I get acclimated again, and in previous years I haven't been able to make it in at all. I'm concerned about taking a week off, and am wondering if I should continue to take the SARMs during that first week of school, or if I should take a week off of them and continue the following week. Not trying to make excuses, I just don't know what my availability will be like. I was thinking that I could maybe do an all-cardio week, as I would not need to take a break from the cycle. Let me know what you guys think about this dilemma.

Also, thinking ahead for financial purposes, I am going to run a Cardarine standalone cycle later in the year as I prepare myself for some 5k's and long endurance runs. How would a GW-only cycle be put together, and would a PCT be necessary?

I was thinking:

1-12 - GW-501516 - 20mg/day - 30 minutes before workout
1-12 - Liquidex AI - (Dosage?)
5-12 - HcGenerate - (Dosage?)

PCT: ?

This second cycle would be more focused on cardio, but my weight-training regimen will remain 5 days a week.

 

[wolfpackalpha]

Cycle: If you can't do SARMS without stopping for a week, why not start after the week is over? That would seem a lot easier. Though, you can take the products without hitting the gym for a week; in the end, it's up to you.

1-12 - GW-501516 - 20mg/day - 30 minutes before workout
5-12 - HcGenerate - (Dosage?) - 5 caps/day is the regular dosage

PCT:
You can do a mini-pct with Clomid/HCGenerate and N2Guard.

 

[Kbstrictly]

Guys very new to it and didn't know about the PCT. can someone outline exactly what to do for the PCT and what to take?
Also where to buy it

 

[Mobster]

Read the articles and stickies

 

[LevButlerov]

Guys very new to it and didn't know about the PCT. can someone outline exactly what to do for the PCT and what to take?
Also where to buy it

For SARMS, you should have more than enough with just N2Generate ES as your PCT.

 

[muskate]

Guys very new to it and didn't know about the PCT. can someone outline exactly what to do for the PCT and what to take?
Also where to buy it

Check out this video I made on SARMS -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/new-video-sarms-explained-46877.html

It'll answer a lot of your questions.

SARMS are only minimally suppressive of natural testosterone production so all that is needed as a mini PCT after a cycle of SARMS is a good natural testosterone booster like HCGenerate ES from n2bm.com.

 

[stevesmi]

for sarm's a mini-pct will work just fine

 

[Kbstrictly]

So as my first cycle this is what I'm planning. Need help on PCT tho...

W1-8 ostarine 25mg/day in the AM
W1-8 S4 50mg (half AM, half pm)
W1-8 Cardarine 20mg/day about half hour before my workout

Now with that being said. What > type of HCgenerate < should I be taking for my PCT and during what weeks should I do it, assuming I'm doing it for four weeks post cycle?

Might seem dumb but.. how do we store these. Can it just sit out on the counter at room temp, in the fridge? Don't want it to go bad or lose potency.

Last question.. how do I consume these? Going to get the liquid form. Do I just drop it right into my throat? Ive heard that mixing it with a drink could make it hard to consume every bit of it because it could stick to the bottle/glass.

Thanks in advance guys