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Free T/Total T ratio

HiKITTY

HiKITTY

V.I.P.
EVO Logger
Currently trying to dial in my TRT. I am awaiting results for

  • Free and total Testosterone
  • E2 (Oestradiol)
  • SHBG
  • Prolactin
  • Progesterone
  • FSH/LH
  • DHEAS
  • Cortisol
  • IGF-1 + GH

Usually just check test/e2/shbg and kidney/liver/ lipids

I read that ideally free test should be 2-3% of total. Mine sits around 4-5%. I had symptoms which I thought may be high e2 (e2 always sits around top of reference range with test around top of range too). I suspect this may not be the case as the symptoms have only presented lately (with no change to TRT protocol). I am in process of lowering dose to see if that affects symptoms which it has not so far.

Seeking advice on the idea of a good ratio if it exists.
 
HiKITTY said:
Currently trying to dial in my TRT. I am awaiting results for

  • Free and total Testosterone
  • E2 (Oestradiol)
  • SHBG
  • Prolactin
  • Progesterone
  • FSH/LH
  • DHEAS
  • Cortisol
  • IGF-1 + GH

Usually just check test/e2/shbg and kidney/liver/ lipids

I read that ideally free test should be 2-3% of total. Mine sits around 4-5%. I had symptoms which I thought may be high e2 (e2 always sits around top of reference range with test around top of range too). I suspect this may not be the case as the symptoms have only presented lately (with no change to TRT protocol). I am in process of lowering dose to see if that affects symptoms which it has not so far.

Seeking advice on the idea of a good ratio if it exists.
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@HiKITTY I've seen you post before so you're familiar with the EVO family (https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/monstro-has-passed.98902) and I think you have good understanding how things work here.

To start off, there is no set number for free testosterone or Test:Free test conversion. 2-3% vs 4-5% or even 10% thats all guess work. Most of this is "broscience" TRT myths.
The real issue is we don't know much about you at all, just that you're waiting for bloods.

Besides your blood work, which we would need to do any real analysis, we would need you to start sharing with the EVO family.
How can you share? start a NEW thread with your TRT Log journal, share your TRT schedule, gear, diet, training sleep and supplements and we can guide you better as a whole EVO family community.

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
We have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My TRT cycle Training Diet Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here is a good template on a workout log to follow:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/workout-log-template.99224/

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/
 
Eddie Haskell said:
@HiKITTY I've seen you post before so you're familiar with the EVO family (https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/monstro-has-passed.98902) and I think you have good understanding how things work here.

To start off, there is no set number for free testosterone or Test:Free test conversion. 2-3% vs 4-5% or even 10% thats all guess work. Most of this is "broscience" TRT myths.
The real issue is we don't know much about you at all, just that you're waiting for bloods.

Besides your blood work, which we would need to do any real analysis, we would need you to start sharing with the EVO family.
How can you share? start a NEW thread with your TRT Log journal, share your TRT schedule, gear, diet, training sleep and supplements and we can guide you better as a whole EVO family community.

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
We have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My TRT cycle Training Diet Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here is a good template on a workout log to follow:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/workout-log-template.99224/

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/
Click to expand...
Cheers brother, I will put together a log/history now. Do I just start a new thread as a log then post the link in here to get the exposure? Will be done within the next hour or so
 
HiKITTY said:
I am in process of lowering dose to see if that affects symptoms which it has not so far.
Click to expand...
How long have you been on your current dose? What is your dose? What symptoms?
 
s.gentz said:
How long have you been on your current dose? What is your dose? What symptoms?
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Current dose is 100mg test E split twice a week, have been on this for a month now. Before this was 125mg and before that was 150mg.

Symptoms are;

Insomnia
Fatigue (possibly related to the above)
No libido/soft erections
Slight acne on back
Mood swings/agitation

Further detail posted in training log below

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-cycle-training-diet-log.99854/#post-1556910
 
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