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Maybe it has been taken slightly out of context brother. No one has to post personal specific details such as identifying information or every detail of a full panel bloodwork test. But why shouldnt a logger show test levels from a vendors gear? Evo states a vendor need to have loggers to gain a trusted status so how can one become trusted if test levels for someone using that specific gear not a required. What if no loggers choose to show any blood tests. What genuine trust can be built in a community from a logger simply saying "the gear is good to go bro"..
And that’s up to them simple. But no one should be forced to post blood results. If they choose to they may.

Janoshik testing is your basis of quality gear.

Individuals have different genetic response and metabolisms so everyone’s results are going to be different and does not affect quality gear.

You may find someone with a high TSH and t3 and will rummage through MCT oil and fatty acids resulting in esters being broken down quicker. With someone jabbing twice a day it can show test to be lower then usual. Where as someone with a slower metabolic rate may build up esterfied steroids and result in larger blood serum. You can get two different genetic types run the same gear and I can guarantee you, you will have different results. I see it a lot.

Your 3rd party tests are you indicator of quality. If people choose to come through with their own results then great.
 
Evo states loggers must post progress photos also, is this not also taking away ones free will?
They are choosing to do so. So be it. If they don’t do it they don’t do it. Why does it need to be forced brother?
 
it’s simple.
None of us are abided by a contractual agreement nor have we signed one. If you wish to go down that road of posting photos and bloods so be it. But if someone is not okay with it then what bro? @Allupfromhere? If my clients aren’t okay with me posting them up on a public platform what should I say to them? No you have too it’s the rules?
 
What if someone doesn’t feel okay to post their physique? What will you tell them? Be supportive and let them decide for themselves? Or tell them sorry mate it’s mandatory if you don’t f*** off… that’s not a good environment to be around
 
They are choosing to do so. So be it. If they don’t do it they don’t do it. Why does it need to be forced brother?
I asked myself the same question recently when I had seen a log for a vendor wasnt valid without progress photos. That is an evo requirement. I also dont feel these should validate the log for a vendor.
And that’s up to them simple. But no one should be forced to post blood results. If they choose to they may.

Janoshik testing is your basis of quality gear.

Individuals have different genetic response and metabolisms so everyone’s results are going to be different and does not affect quality gear.

You may find someone with a high TSH and t3 and will rummage through MCT oil and fatty acids resulting in esters being broken down quicker. With someone jabbing twice a day it can show test to be lower then usual. Where as someone with a slower metabolic rate may build up esterfied steroids and result in larger blood serum. You can get two different genetic types run the same gear and I can guarantee you, you will have different results. I see it a lot.

Your 3rd party tests are you indicator of quality. If people choose to come through with their own results then great.
Im hearing you brother and you have the finger on the pulse significantly more when it comes to the chemistry side of things, more then most on evo. But what is stopping a new vendor providing a solid 3rd party test on a single batch then cutting quality on the following batches to increase profits. I feel most members would feel more comfortable seeing ongoing bloods from loggers and different time periods to give a better indication of consistency for a vendors product.
Now by no means am I referring to anyone specific here just to make that clear 🤙
 
I asked myself the same question recently when I had seen a log for a vendor wasnt valid without progress photos. That is an evo requirement. I also dont feel these should validate the log for a vendor.

Im hearing you brother and you have the finger on the pulse significantly more when it comes to the chemistry side of things, more then most on evo. But what is stopping a new vendor providing a solid 3rd party test on a single batch then cutting quality on the following batches to increase profits. I feel most members would feel more comfortable seeing ongoing bloods from loggers and different time periods to give a better indication of consistency for a vendors product.
Now by no means am I referring to anyone specific here just to make that clear 🤙
I agree with vendors posting their results, and updating these results 100% and this needs to be pushed.
 
What if someone doesn’t feel okay to post their physique? What will you tell them? Be supportive and let them decide for themselves? Or tell them sorry mate it’s mandatory if you don’t f*** off… that’s not a good environment to be around
Couldn't agree more with this mate i feel the lines of our opinion might be becoming slightly blurred. Im not saying if people aren't comfortable posting photos and bloods they shouldnt be allowed a place here on evo. That would be extremely hypocritical of what evo states it is trying to provide.
Im simply saying if a vendor has asked a member to log for them to validate the authenticity of there product then an attempt at showing this for the community should be requirement. Different circumstance if members want to log and use a vendors gear for there cycle then that logger should be able to do whatever they please.

Or as you have suggested on going third party testing should be required.
 
Valid points @AE1079. People want to see results of vendors gear, whether that's via physique shots or bloods by loggers, or Jano testing. Loggers can choose not to of course, but i think posting one or all of the above methods definitely goes a long way in helping a labs reputation and credibility.
 
Order from liquid gold arrived. Happy with the products. Fast postage and easy communication.

Currently have just start my log for them
 

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Valid points @AE1079. People want to see results of vendors gear, whether that's via physique shots or bloods by loggers, or Jano testing. Loggers can choose not to of course, but i think posting one or all of the above methods definitely goes a long way in helping a labs reputation and credibility.
Agreed, labs aren't just selling PEDS but also trust and credibility. A logger without a profile pic or bloods or progress shots will hold very little weight for me when choosing a lab. I would go a step further and say there needs to be a minimum logging requirement. I've seen some who haven't updated in months.
Even with all that trust building, some new members need even more. I've had multiple msgs this week asking if different (trusted) labs are legit or how a product is performing.
That also shows we have a long way to go in building trust in this community.
 
I think as whatever lab it is . If you are effectively paying someone (free gear) to be an ambassador and showcase the lab.

If you are as a logger that takes up that offer , if you didn’t post physique photos of progress and or bloods. How are you really an ambassador when all you can offer “pins good”

You are doing the lab a disservice. Also
Otherwise what’s stopping a logger just saying he on a cycle making money on the lab and selling the gear to the streets.

If people don’t want to share their physique or post bloodwork (should be taking anyway for their health) then don’t take the “job offer” to log. It’s not like you will dox yourself and everyone is on different stages of their fitness journey. We all want to uplift everyone,

Also a bit hard I understand as with so many labs hard to find loggers you will do what’s required.

Bit different to what AE saying about posting his clients physiques seeing as they are paying him not the other way round

Anyway it’s of course it’s up to the Labs it’s their money their gear they can do with it as they please.

Anyway this convo should be in a different thread not in LG feedback as it’s not relative to LG in particular.
 
All this logging is very new to Evo,for years labs weren't required to have loggers to be here and those labs were quality with great gear and ars still here,these are new rules for you new guys that don't know how this forum ran with successful labs and happy clients with quality gear before logging became a thing,and it's very recently new.it has no bearing on any labs i know and trust but it's just evolution of the forum and I respect forums direction.you guys need to stop policing the forum and imposing your will and let the labs and mods make the decisions,after all it's a steroid forum,not a church for saints.i know some members are going to be upset with my post but you ain't the forum cops ,nor have much say in how shit gets done here regardless of grand delusions of better and holier than though.calm down and relax a bit.
 
I was here prior to this required logging situation. People used to review the gear off their own backs . I am just saying that if you are getting the gear for free in this new era of evo. If anyone doesn’t go above and beyond back for the lab then they are just abusing the fact that labs require X amount of loggers. It’s more personal principle and morals.

It’s hard to keep up because rules and requirements keep changing while labs are chasing their next status whether VIP, Trusted or Gold .

But Eddie has said the next phase log requirements are

3 times a week post, workout update constant photos and meal update, log missed for 2 weeks is a void

Unless Eddie has imposed different rules and requirements for different vendors. And if above will actually be policed to what he stated.
 
Anyway if people are going to go back and forth on this someone needs to start a thread to move the discussion away for this thread. This is for LG reviews .
@Pigsy
 
Anyway if people are going to go back and forth on this someone needs to start a thread to move the discussion away for this thread. This is for LG reviews .
@Pigsy
If you want, to bring up concerns re logging arrangements. Make a separate thread, so not to hijack Vendors threads.
 
If you want, to bring up concerns re logging arrangements. Make a separate thread, so not to hijack Vendors threads.
Oh I’m done; it was hijacked well before my input. Just didn’t want to entice more back and forth
 
Massive shout out to the team @Liquid Gold Labs for another awesome touchdown of hgh,oils,var and some of there bcp157 & tb500 new to stock which is a great addition to their product range,and is sure to show nothing but results as do all the products from liquid gold💪
 

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Massive shout out to the team @Liquid Gold Labs for another awesome touchdown of hgh,oils,var and some of there bcp157 & tb500 new to stock which is a great addition to their product range,and is sure to show nothing but results as do all the products from liquid gold💪
Nice touchdown brother, enjoy the fine products of @Liquid Gold Labs
 
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