Global Shortage of Supply

[coolguy77711]

Yeah baking powder isn't that bad as long as its not consumed in multiple table spoon amounts, I was just being sarcastic.

Righto just hard to read sarcasm over the internet.

 

[Dirt]

Copy that

I feel like I need to address some things.

It was never my intention to create chaos at all by any means and I don't think I did, I think some guys on here just like to play smarty pants games as you already know. The purpose of the thread was to let the general public know that things were looking like they may start slowing down and that yes there could also be a few issues short term with some of the supply of raws and potentially into the future, but for how long we don't know yet. I don't have that issue personally, I have 2 labels Beligas & Rhino Labs - Rhino Labs is a great backup and a lot of our customers prefer this, even guys on here who have received our Rhino Labs international brand love it. And yes we have Primo.

I am not going to come on a public space and talk about when warehouses are shutting down and opening so forgive me for not going into heaps of detail initially. General public don't need to understand these things and these other small time Vendors need to stop trying to measure swords. What I can say is there are exclusive/distribution deals and contracts in play with successful labels and manufacturers who are growing constantly and taking the majority of the highest grade raws, it then becomes an issue for them with being able to find this same good quality material or consistent ability to deliver on time, every time, with that same quality when they are constantly growing and growing. Increased demand, decreased supply. We all know what happens.

Manufacturers get an allocation and have to discuss increasing production with raw material manufacturers, in this case it can cause setbacks for some raws because manufacturer allocations get exhausted, the guys with the money who are prepared to pay more (for raws) end up paying more because they have increased demand.

It feels good to have a clear concious, we have always sold quality. Despite all the attacks we had coming in, everyone trying to take us down. We now have THE BEST quality steroids that you can find on the Australian market. We have never had one complaint from our customers, the only concern now has been having to wait a few weeks for additional stock to land because we sell out of stock almost immediately once it does and sometimes instantly with certain products. Sometimes before it even lands, so we find ourselves in a predicament. What annoys me is these guys are out there workin their asses off in the gym every day and injecting hormones and vendors on here can't work hard enough to make sure the gear is atleast set up in a propper environment that is up to scratch sometimes or they are cutting it with crap and have the nerve to ask a well known commercial manufacturer with legitimate tried and tested products that have been around for years longer then these Vendors have even been in existence, about how is everyone to know that the products are legit. Beligas has The Best quality products in the Australian Market, bar , over the counter prescription. It is the best that I have tried myself personally as well, literally all of our customers who have come over and who have already tried the majority of labs on here already and come across to us will all tell you the exact same thing.

Mobster when I bring up the quality issues some of these guys they all laugh and joke about it. It's a very serious thing, and it does effect and have impact on our price increase starting 1st of Jan. The last thing any aspiring body builder needs playing in the back of his or her mind is quality. Its usually the first thing anyone thinks about when buying steroids. Thats why most of the pro's either to go a Doctor or go for Pharmaceutical grade products like we sell (we also sell multiple other Genuine pharmaceutcals, Pfizer, Bayer, Ovitrelle, everything from everyone). @AE1079 Would you like to see our product list? Anyway, enough from me. You know Beligas well Mobster, I've listened to your podcasts with Stevesmi and I thought they were great.

I understand some guys will be able to keep prices the same on here there is no doubt about that. We aren't trying to be the cheapest.

The post was just a heads up, not meant to be a "buy now because there will be no raws" - it's just to pre-warn anyone who potentially might be on the fence with a few things going on that this could be a possibility for next year, not "No supply" but an increased difficulty of obtaining supply. A temporary short fall was confirmed yes, as @bigpharma mentioned, they have shut shop and are most likely sipping wine and eating Fancy Chineese in their fancy chineese restaurants, because well they're fancy.

I hope I both helped keep you informed, and made you laugh.

Our .is domain will be up and running within the next day or 2.

Enjoy your day.

No need for all that text . You were being opportunistic .
Dont come at us with all that nonsense you just typed . It means nothing.
You saw some guys were having trouble getting raws and you frothed at the mouth .
Shame on you

 

[Dirt]

Resume in a few days brother

Slight increase in price though . Not enough to justify local increase on finished product .
These fresh batches look so good though aye

 

[coolguy77711]

Back to the rhino vs dirt thread haha time for the showdown to resume

 

[RhinoUGL]

Back to the rhino vs dirt thread haha time for the showdown to resume

I would but Dirt has a Global Shortage of Common Sense

 

[juddy]

One thing I learnt on the Aussie side of this forum, there are those who know, and those who know.

So True

 

[Mobster]

Copy that

I feel like I need to address some things.

It was never my intention to create chaos at all by any means and I don't think I did, I think some guys on here just like to play smarty pants games as you already know. The purpose of the thread was to let the general public know that things were looking like they may start slowing down and that yes there could also be a few issues short term with some of the supply of raws and potentially into the future, but for how long we don't know yet. I don't have that issue personally, I have 2 labels Beligas & Rhino Labs - Rhino Labs is a great backup and a lot of our customers prefer this, even guys on here who have received our Rhino Labs international brand love it. And yes we have Primo.

I am not going to come on a public space and talk about when warehouses are shutting down and opening so forgive me for not going into heaps of detail initially. General public don't need to understand these things and these other small time Vendors need to stop trying to measure swords. What I can say is there are exclusive/distribution deals and contracts in play with successful labels and manufacturers who are growing constantly and taking the majority of the highest grade raws, it then becomes an issue for them with being able to find this same good quality material or consistent ability to deliver on time, every time, with that same quality when they are constantly growing and growing. Increased demand, decreased supply. We all know what happens.

Manufacturers get an allocation and have to discuss increasing production with raw material manufacturers, in this case it can cause setbacks for some raws because manufacturer allocations get exhausted, the guys with the money who are prepared to pay more (for raws) end up paying more because they have increased demand.

It feels good to have a clear concious, we have always sold quality. Despite all the attacks we had coming in, everyone trying to take us down. We now have THE BEST quality steroids that you can find on the Australian market. We have never had one complaint from our customers, the only concern now has been having to wait a few weeks for additional stock to land because we sell out of stock almost immediately once it does and sometimes instantly with certain products. Sometimes before it even lands, so we find ourselves in a predicament. What annoys me is these guys are out there workin their asses off in the gym every day and injecting hormones and vendors on here can't work hard enough to make sure the gear is atleast set up in a propper environment that is up to scratch sometimes or they are cutting it with crap and have the nerve to ask a well known commercial manufacturer with legitimate tried and tested products that have been around for years longer then these Vendors have even been in existence, about how is everyone to know that the products are legit. Beligas has The Best quality products in the Australian Market, bar , over the counter prescription. It is the best that I have tried myself personally as well, literally all of our customers who have come over and who have already tried the majority of labs on here already and come across to us will all tell you the exact same thing.

Mobster when I bring up the quality issues some of these guys they all laugh and joke about it. It's a very serious thing, and it does effect and have impact on our price increase starting 1st of Jan. The last thing any aspiring body builder needs playing in the back of his or her mind is quality. Its usually the first thing anyone thinks about when buying steroids. Thats why most of the pro's either to go a Doctor or go for Pharmaceutical grade products like we sell (we also sell multiple other Genuine pharmaceutcals, Pfizer, Bayer, Ovitrelle, everything from everyone). @AE1079 Would you like to see our product list? Anyway, enough from me. You know Beligas well Mobster, I've listened to your podcasts with Stevesmi and I thought they were great.

I understand some guys will be able to keep prices the same on here there is no doubt about that. We aren't trying to be the cheapest.

The post was just a heads up, not meant to be a "buy now because there will be no raws" - it's just to pre-warn anyone who potentially might be on the fence with a few things going on that this could be a possibility for next year, not "No supply" but an increased difficulty of obtaining supply. A temporary short fall was confirmed yes, as @bigpharma mentioned, they have shut shop and are most likely sipping wine and eating Fancy Chineese in their fancy chineese restaurants, because well they're fancy.

I hope I both helped keep you informed, and made you laugh.

Our .is domain will be up and running within the next day or 2.

Enjoy your day.

Zero comment from me on Oz quality as I have no experience of it. Obviously I've seen what was said about sources (start great and then drop of a cliff in a few cases) and, as has been made clear, the difficulty of getting product (inc raws) into Oz. Being able to rely on a source selling good, tested, product is super important. Any supplier that can do this will do well. Ditto one with a domain

My comments relate to the wording of the opening post. I reread it yesterday. IF, and without talking about which places was opening or shutting, it had suggested a temporary blip - that would have been accurate. But, as we can see through this thread, it has amounted to 2 weeks. And not even globally. Might it happen? Maybe. Might one of the bigger, outside Oz sources, buy up a LOT of the supply - sure. Might not too.

I owned a supplement company and have spoken on podcasts about how the real big companies use commodity brokers. In essence they agree to buy future supply (say 3 months from now) at an agreed price. Ironically our No1 supplier imports WPC and WPI from NZ. Heck, I even tried to get them to give me a 12 month price over a 3 month price.

Such is business

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Zero comment from me on Oz quality as I have no experience of it. Obviously I've seen what was said about sources (start great and then drop of a cliff in a few cases) and, as has been made clear, the difficulty of getting product (inc raws) into Oz. Being able to rely on a source selling good, tested, product is super important. Any supplier that can do this will do well. Ditto one with a domain

My comments relate to the wording of the opening post. I reread it yesterday. IF, and without talking about which places was opening or shutting, it had suggested a temporary blip - that would have been accurate. But, as we can see through this thread, it has amounted to 2 weeks. And not even globally. Might it happen? Maybe. Might one of the bigger, outside Oz sources, buy up a LOT of the supply - sure. Might not too.

I owned a supplement company and have spoken on podcasts about how the real big companies use commodity brokers. In essence they agree to buy future supply (say 3 months from now) at an agreed price. Ironically our No1 supplier imports WPC and WPI from NZ. Heck, I even tried to get them to give me a 12 month price over a 3 month price.

Such is business

@Mobster , @RhinoUGL is in 72 hour time out for another thread TOS violation so expect him back after new year to continue the discussion

 

[R&Dpharma]

Our pricing is adjusted for a few reasons, all of our 50 tab packets are going to 100tab packets once all 50 tabs sell out, there is potentially going to be a short fall in supply next year not just for us and we are anticipating this ahead of time (it's what most businesses do when they see a potential short fall in supply down the line in order to survive the market), sorry but I'm not going to take Dirts word or any other vendor thats been around for 2 weeks word for it on here that production has resumed and 'everything is back to normal'. It's way to early to tell. Our prices have been in many cases cheaper then UGL homebrew comparatively for pharmaceutical grade products that we sell. Also we received notice of increase prices directly from HQ so our prices need to be adjusted accordingly, we have resellers as well. We haven't even released new pricing yet. AE1079 hasn't tried our products, and if we come out saying our products are better then anyone elses I'm sure he'll be the first to slam that as well without trying or looking into anything (like authentication codes, or mention as official resellers on Beligas official website) so, there's nothing else to say or answer to it is what is is and it is what it will be.

you have basically been here for 2 weeks, from what i can see you buy premade products and redistribute how do you have any idea about shortage of raws if youre not purchasing them?

 

[bigpharma]

Slight increase in price though . Not enough to justify local increase on finished product .
These fresh batches look so good though aye

You know where to find me I'll point you in the right direction

 

[Livewell2024]

Pretty sure there's a bunch of other labs about to bring out their own beligas line so will he interesting to see what their prices are

 

[juddy]

Looks like now’s the right time to invest in Beligas—they’re about to saturate the market and could see some huge returns.

Slightly off topic, but I was checking out the legit Beligas website and noticed napsgear.org listed, but no sign of RhinoUGL. Tagging @RhinoUGL, @Hunter99, and @Eddie Haskell here, since I’ve copped some flak in the past for calling this guy out. I’ve got no issue with legit resellers, but this feels like déjà vu—like someone we’ve seen scam people before and now coming back with a new angle.

Maybe he’s selling real gear, but either way, it’s looking pretty dodgy or like he’s fooling himself. Worth keeping an eye on.

https://beligas.com/index.htm

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Looks like now’s the right time to invest in Beligas—they’re about to saturate the market and could see some huge returns.

Slightly off topic, but I was checking out the legit Beligas website and noticed napsgear.org listed, but no sign of RhinoUGL. Tagging @RhinoUGL, @Hunter99, and @Eddie Haskell here, since I’ve copped some flak in the past for calling this guy out. I’ve got no issue with legit resellers, but this feels like déjà vu—like someone we’ve seen scam people before and now coming back with a new angle.

Maybe he’s selling real gear, but either way, it’s looking pretty dodgy or like he’s fooling himself. Worth keeping an eye on.

https://beligas.com/index.htm
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He’ll be back to address this himself after time out

But a few things I think there are multiple beligas sites and not all resellers are listed seems, just checked list

 

[Limbu]

Looks like now’s the right time to invest in Beligas—they’re about to saturate the market and could see some huge returns.

Slightly off topic, but I was checking out the legit Beligas website and noticed napsgear.org listed, but no sign of RhinoUGL. Tagging @RhinoUGL, @Hunter99, and @Eddie Haskell here, since I’ve copped some flak in the past for calling this guy out. I’ve got no issue with legit resellers, but this feels like déjà vu—like someone we’ve seen scam people before and now coming back with a new angle.

Maybe he’s selling real gear, but either way, it’s looking pretty dodgy or like he’s fooling himself. Worth keeping an eye on.

https://beligas.com/index.htm
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I’m pretty sure that’s a fake beligas website, beligas.org is the real one and if you go to the home page and scroll down you’ll find rhino labs

 

[Dirt]

I don’t think he’s a scammer .
No reason to believe so , he’s just a reseller that thought he could use fancy words to get a few sales here .
Not that there’s anything wrong with resellers either , we have a few already .
But it’s all about attitude .
Besides , he was starting to act desperate . No one likes that .

 

[juddy]

Oh I'm sure he's on one of the many Baligas websites, @Dirt nailed it.

 

[gen150]

Absolute rubbish

No need for labs to increase prices. If they do it's because they choose to. Plain and simple.

Good tactic to use this for tho to get a good cpl quick sales and scare monger people.
But overall is absolutely rubbish.

 

[ODINLABS]

It's all good bro, no need to be so hostile.

Absolute rubbish

No need for labs to increase prices. If they do it's because they choose to. Plain and simple.

Good tactic to use this for tho to get a good cpl quick sales and scare monger people.
But overall is absolutely rubbish.

Every year they put up prices and clear their stock... 25 years of this brother just relax and wait till Feb.
Labs absorb price Increases not 30 percent that's just greed

 

[juddy]

I’m pretty sure that’s a fake beligas website, beligas.org is the real one and if you go to the home page and scroll down you’ll find rhino labs

Yeah saw that, just cannot understand why they use a .org if they are legitimate. Surely trademarks etc would have them with the right to the .com or .bg or whatever the country they are registered in would be.

Anyhow, as usual, I've let me ADHD run off-topic. Sorry for all that had to read that.

 

[RhinoUGL]

Every year they put up prices and clear their stock... 25 years of this brother just relax and wait till Feb.
Labs absorb price Increases not 30 percent that's just greed

Yeah noticed a few labs increasing prices, last year or so prices dropped a bit, the 30% for us was just on intro sale products that we got a good price on during initial allocations and basically sold almost at cost. Most of our oral packs are now 100 packs instead of 50 as well. We've increased our allocation.

Yeah saw that, just cannot understand why they use a .org if they are legitimate. Surely trademarks etc would have them with the right to the .com or .bg or whatever the country they are registered in would be.

Anyhow, as usual, I've let me ADHD run off-topic. Sorry for all that had to read that.

Yeah thats correct, if you click around on the .com website you will be re-directed to the .org site they took it back over a while ago a lot of Beligas products are trademarked, official site for them is the .org site so whoever was running the .com site selling copycat gear didn't get away with that for long. We're listed there on the .org site. No complaints by customers on product quality thats for sure.